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Battle takes place on a neutral ground. Force, 'Sabers, All-Out.

Loser has to an Aurbere. excellent

Arcann in a good fight imo.

Originally posted by Sinious
Arcann in a good fight imo.

Originally posted by Sinious
Arcann in a good fight imo.

Arcann tanked Valkorion's lightning, Starkiller tanked Sidious' lightning.
Arcann can't obliterate a single droid with prep, Starkiller blew apart a 150m ship instantly.

Seems legit.

Starkiller loses sabers, takes force and all out

Arcann can hold off his lightning (for a second at least), but he's going to get overwhelmed by his telekinesis in my opinion. Its a good fight though but once he forces SK to use his full power, its all over

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Arcann tanked Valkorion's lightning, Starkiller tanked Sidious' lightning.
Arcann can't obliterate a single droid with prep, Starkiller blew apart a 150m ship instantly.

Seems legit.

Galen entered into a state of Oneness and died when he tutaminus'd Sidious's lightning, that feat is hardly applicable in combat

Originally posted by carthage
Galen entered into a state of Oneness and died when he tutaminus'd Sidious's lightning, that feat is hardly applicable in combat

He tanked it even before the Oneness. That happened at the very end when he "exploded".

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
He tanked it even before the Oneness. That happened at the very end when he "exploded".

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/127594/4863448-1397893778-45677.gif

He wanted to take Galen alive for a replacement for Vader, and casually dominated him/hurled a ship at him. Even in his state of oneness Galen was no match for Sidious.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Arcann tanked Valkorion's lightning, Starkiller tanked Sidious' lightning.
So? Where does this lead us to?

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Arcann can't obliterate a single droid with prep, Starkiller blew apart a 150m ship instantly.

Seems legit.
Arcann cannot obliterate a single droid? You've got to be kidding me.

Relatively, much weaker Force-users can obliterate droids.

A Force-user of Arcann's caliber can destroy a large number of droids with his powers.

Arcann isn't taking Force, but he could well take sabers.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Arcann isn't taking Force, but he could well take sabers.

Arcann's only feat is beating the outlander, and even that he did through superior force power, not skill.

Starkiller on the other hand is stated to be trained to near perfection by Vader before TFU, getting consistently better during TFU, and being just as skilled with the saber as being powerful in the force.
The clone inhereted all of the original's fighting abillity.

As for feats: Stalemating Vader > beating the outlander through power,

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Arcann's only feat is beating the outlander, and even that he did through superior force power, not skill.

Starkiller on the other hand is stated to be trained to near perfection by Vader before TFU, getting consistently better during TFU, and being just as skilled with the saber as being powerful in the force.
The clone inhereted all of the original's fighting abillity.

As for feats: Stalemating Vader > beating the outlander through power,
If the Outlander is Hero of Tython, then he is the most skilled duelist in the galaxy.

I wonder why people are so sure 'Killer loses sabers....
mmm

Saying Arcann "beat" the Outlander with the force is a disservice to the former, tbh. He ragdolled him before the fight, pushed him twice after the in-game fight, and then straight up Tiplee'd the Hero.

Even when enraged, HoT was getting overwhelmed by Arcann in sabers. Since Arcann is powerful enough to stand his ground against Valkorion for a decent time, I don't see how SK will bring him down with the force.

Hero isn't as skilled as Starkiller in sabers though, and Starkiller is more powerful in the force than Hero by a great deal. I doubt he's going to overwhelm him in sabers, he'll win by virtue of being more skilled though. But its not a stomp by any means.

Originally posted by Sinious
Even when enraged, HoT was getting overwhelmed by Arcann in sabers. Since Arcann is powerful enough to stand his ground against Valkorion for a decent time, I don't see how SK will bring him down with the force.
Arcann can't stand up to Valkorion.

He was talking about weakened 'korion you fugger

He also said a decent time, which was about ten seconds.

Well the 2nd time around Arcann was blocking that shit mad long, bruh.

A mad long ten seconds. The first time he was knocked out immediately like a *****.

Well that's because Valk's lightning was at full power. Even while it was weakened, his lightning still had mad range and span and was shorting out ships n shit/killing hundreds.

It's only a tank showing for Arcann, and Vader already had far better, so it doesn't really help with Starkiller.

True. Then again, discussing this feats-only, Starkiller prolly disintegrates Plagueis.

@Skillz

for explaining the obvious to this mad f***

Good thing Plagueis isn't in this thread, ****tards.

Originally posted by Sinious
@Skillz

for explaining the obvious to this mad f***
for ignoring the obvious. Your point is irrelevant because Arcann was incapacitated by power that Marek has displayed on quite a few occasions. It's not even like the brunt of Valkorion's attack even hit him.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Arcann can't obliterate a single droid with prep, Starkiller blew apart a 150m ship instantly.
****ing terrible logic.

Revan failed to kill a Wookie. A stormtrooper could.

Stormtrooper > Revan.

Screened.

The fact that HK was only as ****ed up as he was simply speaks for how tough he is, like damn.

I muse that the blast would have killed the Outlander too.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I muse that the blast would have killed the Outlander too.

Are the HK models built of sturdier metal than droidekas (with relevance to the Mace vs. Arcann debate)