Originally posted by abhilegend
That was for destroying earth only.
No where the neural machine was amplifying his power.
Yes, just like Odin beating Dark Gods with a broken spear.
I know but you referenced to the device which was channeling Darkseid's power so i thought id strike back. The neural machine however wasn't even his power. It was a technological device and nowhere did it say that it was channeling his power. It was the device DS used to dampen the heroes powers.
http://imgur.com/XgtEEE5
And here Desaad refers to it as a technological device with nothing to do with DS's powers. It was probably a device created by Desaad himself.
http://imgur.com/ixxbpCT
let's face it, You fuked up when you referenced that feat, and you fuked up even more disputing its non-canonicity.
Originally posted by abhilegend
crylaugh
Now on panel canon stories are rendered non canon by letter pages?
Hahaha. Oh you jester.
WTF? Are you capable of comprehending the most basic of things?
COIE took place, Legends came shortly after and New Gods continuity still wasn't established. New Genesis was destroyed, it was later established that that was never the case and New Genesis is still intact. Meaning Hunger Dogs is non canon its simple as that.
Anyway, why am I debating this with you? The letter's section is written by the actual editor Michael Eury
http://imgur.com/Xf7bVAa
Same thing in issue #19.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not godblast. Explicitly. He channeled a storm with his own life force.
And Godblast is pretty weak anyway, it couldn't do anything to Juggernaut and was explicitly stated to be only able to knock out Ego for a brief time.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29569843/ThorrefersGodblast.jpg.html
I mean, what a weak attack.
It was a godblast, because he channeled his asgardian life force. This is exactly what a godblast is.
Juggernaut stopped the godblast with his invisible force field, something which not all writers use and ignore. The only time the force field was actually weak was in the early X-Men issues (in the 60s) when some wind machine took out Juggernaut's force field for a while when he crashed into one. In the era when Thor faced him, that wasn't the case.
Lowballing the godblast through Ego though? You were better off posting the juggernaut scene than the Ego one, lol, seriously what were you thinking?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because he is the one giving power to Thor. Where was that power when Jane was bashing his face in while throwing him around solar system like a ping pong ball?
Yes, just like Odin said in Fear Itself.
http://imgur.com/KaJa2Xk
"Odin giveth, Odin taketh away"
so, PIS/CIS maybe?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Who have depowered Mordru before. Not a bad showing by any means.
Random sorcerers who have no feats devising a spell to drain Mordru is not a bad showing?
Oh wait, they're impressive because they've drained Mordru before (who iirc wasn't as powerful back then anyway)? Are you starting to realize the double standard here? But mangog is not impressive because Odin was scared of him, neither is it impressive that Odin defeated him; however, random sorcerer's depowering Mordru is not a bad showing just because they've done it before.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha. Oh the sheer gall here.
You're a joke at this point. Like, really, how in the hell are you still debating this? Did you even read the comic or are you that much desperate?
Read and learn.
http://imgur.com/2jfXWU6
Tell me more about he did all that under his own power. You'd have to try and ignore every single page of the comic to claim otherwise because the whole premise of the story was about DS's plan to displace the earth.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, the story was out of continuity of the post crisis universe since it too in pre crisis history and Wonder Woman not being returned to clay was done in COIE.
And it directly references pre crisis history. Like in here.
http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/29569883_dc_challenge-004-02.jpg
Get it, letters pages are not substitute for actual on panel facts.
Holy shit are you reaching new heights.
it doesn't matter if a comic references a previous issue, because that just says that that specific event happened in this part of non canon story. Kind of like elseworlds and what ifs were certain events diverged, and in this case the very events of DC Challenge is what diverges this so called elseworld (ignore the term just understand the concept) from the main continuity Why is this so hard to understand?
Anyway...the actual editor himself said that it is out of continuity.
Read the scans again and notice who wrote them.
http://imgur.com/8jDr3rN
http://imgur.com/UuHd8JH
That's right, it's Bob Greenberger, the actual editor of the series
Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, rich coming from you. Why don't you post some more letter pages?
Lol, what did you expect? you want an on panel instance where Batman says "hey listen readers, this comic is non canon"? The editor of the series confirmed its non canonicity how can you in your right mind still deny these blatant facts?
Also, when I originally said that these were non canon you replied to me with "i know" you're not starting to "flip flop" are you?
Originally posted by abhilegend
If its referenced everywhere, sure.
Joke had Mxy's power. And Joker is not most memorable for Emperor Joker you little goon.
Its The Killing Joke or a lot of Batman's stories. Emperor Joker is never even mentioned as a must read story for Joker. Nice strawman though.
And Darkseid had Excalibur, the orb, TT/controller, and Mordru's powers.
at your horrible comprehension skills. When I said "most memorable" i was referring to the DCU comics readers in general not the niche ones who are specifically into Batman comics. And you divert from the main point as usual and start talking irrelevant shit like "killing joke" is the most memorable (well actually from an in-universe perspective it's Joker's last laugh is). What do i even care what's most memorable? Point being is that memorable doesn't equate to standard and is pretty much the exact opposite, because in memorable story arcs something out of the ordinary/standard happens. This is basic stuff. So you saying that we should consider GDS as standard because it's most "memorable" is as wrong as it gets. Although you can keep telling me about Joker's most memorable appearances, go on.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, seriously?
And here comes the twisting of words.
What you said was that the war was merely confined in a solar system. Now when you get caught up by your scans, you backpaddled by saying it later expanded to the rest of the universe later.
You flip flop like its going out of Zop.
Are you an idiot or something? You literally haven't been able to comprehend most of my posts and completely go about talking about something else.
I never said that the Apokolips New Genesis war was isolated to solar system level. I remembered that scene quite well in my head, actually. The conversation went this way:
- Me: My initial point was that they wanted to destroy each other's planets. And I never mentioned it was solar system level.
- You: Show me where was it stated.
- Me: show you a scan stating exactly what I said.
- you: Lol! the scan states the war was universal.
- me: It was not universal, it just extended to the universe but either way my point is that they wanted to destroy each other planets
- you: haha, you said that it was solar system level.
WTF? do you see how stupid you sound here? That's exactly how it went.
WTF dude? You seem mad lol.