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Who wins? Last man standing fight.

Uuuummmm, Thanos wins.

Thanos doesn't need the power gem. Thanos wins.

Thanos

I think it would be fun to see.

I just clicked on this to confirm if Carver was the 1st to respond and I was right

What's Thanos greatest feat with the power gem? I'm thinking WBH spite stomps.

Originally posted by h1a8
What's Thanos greatest feat with the power gem? I'm thinking WBH spite stomps.

I was going to ask the same question. What has Thanos done while using the Power Gem? Has he ever used the Power Gem by itself? I saw him slap Captain America's shield and fracture over 90% of it, but was that the Power Gem alone, or were any of the other gems at work? If there's no history that shows him using it alone, how can any one make claims as to how powerful he'd be with it? If he can fully use it, then he would be able to surpass WB Hulk's strength, but then again, he was clobbered on by Thor and it didn't appear to me that he was as strong in those scenes as WB Hulk.

Thanos does NOT need the power gem to overpower and kill WBH in a slugfest.

^ proof it

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Thanos does NOT need the power gem to overpower and kill WBH in a slugfest. holy crap. Do you even know what you're talking about?

Originally posted by deathslash
holy crap. Do you even know what you're talking about?

Yes I know what I'm talking about. WBH can not do anything to thanos, maybe he can hurt him a little, but that's it.

Tell me what WBH did? Destroyed a planet with fist bumps? Classic drax has destroyed planets with arm wrestling, and Thanos in his weakest version overpowered him with ease. Classic drax has also destroyed stars alone, with his pure strength, and WBH is nowhere near that level.

Not to mention all this mad power gem thor and Odin fighting Thanos and only stalemating him.

Lol at Thanos stalemating Odin

i think its not a hard one. PG Thanos wins. Thanos without the power gem loses. thats my opinion.

Originally posted by Dareangel
i think its not a hard one. PG Thanos wins. Thanos without the power gem loses. thats my opinion.
What has WBH done to put him above Thanos? Don't say he is hulk his power is infinite he is 100 feet tall or something like that. Give actual feats.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Lol at Thanos stalemating Odin What do you call a fight of 14 pages without any damage to either of the fighters?

Originally posted by apex_pretador
What has WBH done to put him above Thanos? Don't say he is hulk his power is infinite he is 100 feet tall or something like that. Give actual feats.



we have seen feats from him only 3 times. however the fact he can bust planets, disintegrate beings equal to Savage Hulk effortlessly just by clashing with red she-hulk, makes assumption take its place. We can't measure what he can do but atleast we have a starting point. Maybe he can do greater things, maybe not. But until then, he bust planets effortlessly and surpasses by more than a mile ANY striking feat Sentry, Superman, Thor or Thanos have ever dished.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
What has WBH done to put him above Thanos? Don't say he is hulk his power is infinite he is 100 feet tall or something like that. Give actual feats.

What do you call a fight of 14 pages without any damage to either of the fighters? Thanos was most certainly damaged though

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Yes I know what I'm talking about. WBH can not do anything to thanos, maybe he can hurt him a little, but that's it.

Tell me what WBH did? Destroyed a planet with fist bumps? Classic drax has destroyed planets with arm wrestling, and Thanos in his weakest version overpowered him with ease. Classic drax has also destroyed stars alone, with his pure strength, and WBH is nowhere near that level.

Not to mention all this mad power gem thor and Odin fighting Thanos and only stalemating him.
She hulk overpowered that same Drax who admitted she was much stronger than him.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14810838

Mar-vell also overpowered and koed him in the same comic where he destroyed those planets.


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I wouldn't say he overpowered Drax overwhelmed sure but not overpowered

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Yes I know what I'm talking about. WBH can not do anything to thanos, maybe he can hurt him a little, but that's it.

Tell me what WBH did? Destroyed a planet with fist bumps? Classic drax has destroyed planets with arm wrestling, and Thanos in his weakest version overpowered him with ease. Classic drax has also destroyed stars alone, with his pure strength, and WBH is nowhere near that level.

Not to mention all this mad power gem thor and Odin fighting Thanos and only stalemating him.


Thanos without the Power Gem ran neck and neck with Annihi-Hulk or perhaps a slight bit stronger, and I mean slight bit. Annihi-Hulk was nowhere near as strong as WB Hulk. They weren't even in the same zip code TBH.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
What has WBH done to put him above Thanos? Don't say he is hulk his power is infinite he is 100 feet tall or something like that. Give actual feats.

What do you call a fight of 14 pages without any damage to either of the fighters? He exerted billions of times more force than it takes to shatter a planet.

Think of the amount of force needed to shatter a planet. Now multiply that by billions.

Nah he didn't exert billions of times of anything

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Yes I know what I'm talking about. WBH can not do anything to thanos, maybe he can hurt him a little, but that's it.

Tell me what WBH did? Destroyed a planet with fist bumps? Classic drax has destroyed planets with arm wrestling, and Thanos in his weakest version overpowered him with ease. Classic drax has also destroyed stars alone, with his pure strength, and WBH is nowhere near that level.

Not to mention all this mad power gem thor and Odin fighting Thanos and only stalemating him. drax and thanos were digging into the ground when they were grappling. This caused the planet to become unstable. The planet blew up not because of the force the two were exerting but because of the instability they cause in the planet. The planet blew itself up.

So what they did was push a very big and difficult button. After that, the planet did all the work. It was a good feat.

Also know that characters don't always operate at the same level in every comic. That means Thanos feat with Drax is above anything Thanos has done strength wise. So it's faulty to assume that a later and more upgraded Thanos can do the same. If that was the case then he wouldn't have shown limits many times below that.

Mar-vell manhandled Drax in the same comic he destroyed the planet. Thor beat up on Thanos with the IG. A much weaker Hulk beat up on Thor. See how faulty the ABC logic is? You can't use ABC logic when you know that a character isn't operating near the level as another scene which you are trying to compare.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Nah he didn't exert billions of times of anything because he never existed? He's fictional?

Originally posted by h1a8
because he never existed? He's fictional? it was never stated he exerted such power and we certainly won't be giving you the benefit of doubt

Originally posted by iceman24567
it was never stated he exerted such power and we certainly won't be giving you the benefit of doubt

It takes billions of times more force to destroy something without coming in contact with it than destroying through coming in contact with it.

If you get hit with a strong smack in the face then I won't feel a thing.
The Shockwave energy emitted from a collision is always billions of times less than the actual collision.

Originally posted by h1a8
It takes billions of times more force to destroy something without coming in contact with it than destroying through coming in contact with it.

If you get hit with a strong smack in the face then I won't feel a thing.
The Shockwave energy emitted from a collision is always billions of times less than the actual collision. Nope you are wrong Hulk was unleashing great amounts of gamma energy also he didnt do it solo so your bs logic is bs

Originally posted by iceman24567
Nope you are wrong Hulk was unleashing great amounts of gamma energy also he didnt do it solo so your bs logic is bs billions mean at least 2 billion. Half of that is a billion. The gamma energy had nothing to do with the feat. It was the force of the collision that created the shockwave. Gamma radiation don't produce shockwaves.

Hulk emitting gamma radiation does cause destructive force so it has everything to do with the feat

Originally posted by h1a8
billions mean at least 2 billion. Half of that is a billion. The gamma energy had nothing to do with the feat. It was the force of the collision that created the shockwave. Gamma radiation don't produce shockwaves. Do you read comics ?

Originally posted by iceman24567
Hulk emitting gamma radiation does cause destructive force so it has everything to do with the feat The writer's intentions were that the force of the collision is what created the shockwave.

I would like to see Scans of gamma radiation from Hulk causing physical damage (like breaking or cracking something and not just burning something)..

Originally posted by h1a8
The writer's intentions were that the force of the collision is what created the shockwave.

I would like to see Scans of gamma radiation from Hulk causing physical damage (like breaking or cracking something and not just burning something).. You know jack shit about the writers intentions

Here is the showing for everyone eyes...

http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q701/Matthews1986/2738723-incredible_hulks__634_014_super_zps6545a078.jpg
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q701/Matthews1986/2738724-incredible_hulks__634_015_16_super_zps1c4b73cb.jpg

Same old, same old.

Thanos wins easy.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Thanos was most certainly damaged though
Scratches on his clothes =/= damaged. You know his clothes also work as armor? And extremely powerful beings like Tyrant and Omega (clone of galactus with higher raw power) have actually vaporized his clothes armor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
She hulk overpowered that same Drax who admitted she was much stronger than him.


Mar-vell also overpowered and koed him in the same comic where he destroyed those planets.





Drax is stronger and more powerful when he is focused on thanos and near thanos.
She hulk doing anything to him should be PIS, unless you believe that she hulk > a planet buster, because that puts her on WBH level.


Originally posted by Stoic
Thanos without the Power Gem ran neck and neck with Annihi-Hulk or perhaps a slight bit stronger, and I mean slight bit. Annihi-Hulk was nowhere near as strong as WB Hulk. They weren't even in the same zip code TBH.

Based on?

What about thanos matching depowered tyrant, who just standing there ignoring the assault of Surfer, BRB, Gladiator and many more.
And inb4 the amp, he only used the orb for 3 strikes.

Originally posted by h1a8
He exerted billions of times more force than it takes to shatter a planet.

Think of the amount of force needed to shatter a planet. Now multiply that by billions.

Based on?
Anyways, even if we take your statement literally, energy to destroy a planet x 1,000,000,000 = energy tod estroy a sun = silver surfer's strongest attack. We all know how it affects Thanos.


Originally posted by Insane Titan
Same old, same old.

Thanos wins easy. And without the power gem.

Originally posted by h1a8
drax and thanos were digging into the ground when they were grappling. This caused the planet to become unstable. The planet blew up not because of the force the two were exerting but because of the instability they cause in the planet. The planet blew itself up.

So what they did was push a very big and difficult button. After that, the planet did all the work. It was a good feat.

Also know that characters don't always operate at the same level in every comic. That means Thanos feat with Drax is above anything Thanos has done strength wise. So it's faulty to assume that a later and more upgraded Thanos can do the same. If that was the case then he wouldn't have shown limits many times below that.

Mar-vell manhandled Drax in the same comic he destroyed the planet. Thor beat up on Thanos with the IG. A much weaker Hulk beat up on Thor. See how faulty the ABC logic is? You can't use ABC logic when you know that a character isn't operating near the level as another scene which you are trying to compare.

The panel saying that " THE PLANET COULDN'T TAKE OUT CLASH" = planet busting. Also, there is nothing such as planet instability and blowing itself up, it is a fan made idea to lowball.

Drax is MUCH stronger in close proximity to thanos and thinking about him, than any other time. Thanos with IG was basically playing with the entire universe. He was allowing them to do everything. Hell, even cut his connection off from the IG at a time. I don't call that a beatdown.

And I'm not using ABC logic, I'm using ACTUAL FEATS. Feats are what matter. I can say daredevil can beat galactus ignoring feats and call everything else ABC logic, but that would be wrong, like what you are saying.

Originally posted by apex_pretador




Drax is stronger and more powerful when he is focused on thanos and near thanos.
She hulk doing anything to him should be PIS, unless you believe that she hulk > a planet buster, because that puts her on WBH level.


Wut? That's not how his powers work.

Drax was also overpowered by Thor and dismissed by pretty much any top tier he came across.

Him destroying a planet doesn't puts him near even savage Hulk. Space cheese like that never matters.



All those heroes were weakened. Even Jack of Hearts made Tyrant grunt in pain.



Surfer has never destroyed a sun.

Yes, we do know how it affects Thanos. Surfer is a ***** anyway, so who cares?

Thanos was physically damaged nobody cares about damage to his clothes

Originally posted by iceman24567
Thanos was physically damaged nobody cares about damage to his clothes Based on what do you think he was physically damaged?

Based on the comic obviously

Originally posted by h1a8
He exerted billions of times more force than it takes to shatter a planet.

Think of the amount of force needed to shatter a planet. Now multiply that by billions.
He released approximately twice the amount of energy required to shatter a dark dimension wish-world. But it's ok, you only failed by a factor of 1 000 000 000.

Originally posted by abhilegend
She hulk overpowered that same Drax who admitted she was much stronger than him.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14810838

Mar-vell also overpowered and koed him in the same comic where he destroyed those planets.


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That doesn't count because Mar-Vell was too much of badass.

Just so we're clear, no one actually believes Worldbreaker Hulk can take a skyfather, right?

Thanos is one thing, but when this storyline was fresh, people were seriously arguing Worldbreaker could beat down Odin.. (Pretty sure it wasn't "only" Carver saying this..)

In a fist I do Osiris is a skyfather so why couldn't he beat him?

Originally posted by cdtm
Just so we're clear, no one actually believes Worldbreaker Hulk can take a skyfather, right?

Thanos is one thing, but when this storyline was fresh, people were seriously arguing Worldbreaker could beat down Odin.. (Pretty sure it wasn't "only" Carver saying this..)

When did I say Hulk can beat Odin?

Originally posted by abhilegend
She hulk overpowered that same Drax who admitted she was much stronger than him.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14810838

Mar-vell also overpowered and koed him in the same comic where he destroyed those planets.


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Thats terrible. I wouldn't even consider this Captain Mar-vel Mid Herald. At the bottom of Low Herald imo.

Originally posted by carver9
When did I say Hulk can beat Odin? I don't recall you saying that, but you did claim repeatedly that Umar is skyfather level and was less effective against the Mindless Ones than WBH. Perhaps that's where the Odin (Skyfather) comparison is coming from.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos doesn't need the power gem. Thanos wins.

WBH would stomp him, crush him.

Originally posted by Cogito
I don't recall you saying that, but you did claim repeatedly that Umar is skyfather level and was less effective against the Mindless Ones than WBH. Perhaps that's where the Odin (Skyfather) comparison is coming from.

I did say that but Umar and Odin are two different levels of Skyfathers. Odin IS the Skyfather of Skyfathers.

Originally posted by Inedian
WBH would stomp him, crush him.

The worst beat down ever.

Power gems power is far beyond anything Hulk can come up with or are we at the stage now where ppl actually believe Hulk is beyond some the strongest powers in the universe

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Power gems power is far beyond anything Hulk can come up with or are we at the stage now where ppl actually believe Hulk is beyond some the strongest powers in the universe Are you really surprised? If you are you shouldnt be

I think maybe he is both underated and overrated.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Are you really surprised? If you are you shouldnt be Not really tbh, but the fact the vast majority now buy into this it's laughable

Originally posted by golem370
I think maybe he is both underated and overrated.

Question if you are familiar. What does the Power Gem do for the user?

What I remember was basically making someone unstoppable and or indestructible.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Gem

Originally posted by carver9
Thats terrible. I wouldn't even consider this Captain Mar-vel Mid Herald. At the bottom of Low Herald imo.

Mar-vell is probably the greatest hero in the MU. He's beyond tiers

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Mar-vell is probably the greatest hero in the MU. He's beyond tiers

True.

Originally posted by golem370
What I remember was basically making someone unstoppable and or indestructible.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Gem

It increases a person's durability and strength gradually. Does that remind you of someone? This is why Thanos said this...

http://s21.photobucket.com/user/Bubbleuk/media/ThanosQuest1-31.jpg.html

Hulk power resembles the power gem. Pound on him, piss him off, try to make things impossible for him, his power continues to grow, exponentially and like the power gem, there's no limit to it.

Carver just stop.

No!!!

Originally posted by carver9
No!!! Submit to me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Submit to me.

Lol...Quan, you do not debate with me anymore. If anyone fears me, it's you. Hide from me like you tend to do.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Quan, you do not debate with me anymore. If anyone fears me, it's you. Hide from me like you tend to do. More nonsense from you. You already conceded in this very thread Thanos wins then like petulant child you are bragging about the Hulk in theory. Thanos wins. You already threw in the towel.

Based on implied power, Thanos stomps. Based on feats, WB Hulk murders him.

Originally posted by Stoic
Based on implied power, Thanos stomps. Based on feats, WB Hulk murders him. Ridiculous. Thanos has superior feats than the Hulk. Do not make me laugh.

Originally posted by quanchi112
More nonsense from you. You already conceded in this very thread Thanos wins then like petulant child you are bragging about the Hulk in theory. Thanos wins. You already threw in the towel.

Thanos with the gem does win. I don't vote for characters because I like them. When I vote for Hulk, I truly believe he can win but this is a fight he probably can't win...especially with Thanos experience with the gem. That still doesn't take away from what I said...Hulk being similar to the power gem.

Originally posted by carver9
Thanos with the gem does win. I don't vote for characters because I like them. When I vote for Hulk, I truly believe he can win but this is a fight he probably can't win...especially with Thanos experience with the gem. That still doesn't take away from what I said...Hulk being similar to the power gem. So despite what you said Hulk can't win here so you concede to Thanos. Awesome. I knew you had submission in you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ridiculous. Thanos has superior feats than the Hulk. Do not make me laugh.

When you're right, you're really right.

Originally posted by cdtm
When you're right, you're really right.

Well now if you saw the fight that Thanos had with Annihi-Hulk (Carver, do you have those scans by chance?). When Thanos fought him, they were extremely close, and Thanos even had to put in work to drive him back. Then if you look at how well, Savage Hulk did against Annihi-Hulk, and compare what WB Hulk would do to Annihi-Hulk, it will leave you scratching your head, and then coming to the resounding conclusion, that WB Hulk would absolutely murder Annihi-Hulk. I asked the question earlier on. What exactly did Thanos do with just the Power Gem? No one replied. All I got was this.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ridiculous. Thanos has superior feats than the Hulk. Do not make me laugh.

Originally posted by Stoic
Well now if you saw the fight that Thanos had with Annihi-Hulk (Carver, do you have those scans by chance?). When Thanos fought him, they were extremely close, and Thanos even had to put in work to drive him back. Then if you look at how well, Savage Hulk did against Annihi-Hulk, and compare what WB Hulk would do to Annihi-Hulk, it will leave you scratching your head, and then coming to the resounding conclusion, that WB Hulk would absolutely murder Annihi-Hulk. I asked the question earlier on. What exactly did Thanos do with just the Power Gem? No one replied. All I got was this.

I'll cop that I have no idea who Annihi-Hulk is.

Is it from some post WWH storyline?

Originally posted by Stoic
Well now if you saw the fight that Thanos had with Annihi-Hulk (Carver, do you have those scans by chance?). When Thanos fought him, they were extremely close, and Thanos even had to put in work to drive him back. Then if you look at how well, Savage Hulk did against Annihi-Hulk, and compare what WB Hulk would do to Annihi-Hulk, it will leave you scratching your head, and then coming to the resounding conclusion, that WB Hulk would absolutely murder Annihi-Hulk. I asked the question earlier on. What exactly did Thanos do with just the Power Gem? No one replied. All I got was this. AnniHulk mauled savage Hulk. Did you miss the part where it was stated AnniHulks power/strength had increased by the time Thanos fought him.

Thanos with the power gem took on a group of heros including Professor Hulk, Dumb Drax, Thor, Wolverine, Captain America, Cyclops, Spider-Man may be more and pretty much owned them.

Originally posted by golem370
Thanos with the power gem took on a group of heros including Professor Hulk, Dumb Drax, Thor, Wolverine, Captain America, Cyclops, Spider-Man may be more and pretty much owned them. he didn't even use the power gem to its best in that instance.

But he said something I will only use it which means he was only using that gem. Who used it better just the power gem. Drax had it taken from him by Thor and Thor wasn't able to stop Thanos with it at least not before Thanos put an end to the fight first.

Originally posted by golem370
But he said something I will only use it which means he was only using that gem. Who used it better just the power gem. Drax had it taken from him by Thor and Thor wasn't able to stop Thanos with it at least not before Thanos put an end to the fight first. Adam warlock used the power gem to easily humble classic Dr Strange who was prepped and using all his trinkets/weapons etc.

Alright one lol. But this is a slugfest and if Thanos was holding his own against Thor with the gem I would think WBH could do the same with Thanos for awhile he might go down but who knows if there is a stage after WB.

Thanos has better damage soak than Hulk though the gem makes it even worse

Damn, WBh is so overrated on this forum.

Originally posted by Stoic
Well now if you saw the fight that Thanos had with Annihi-Hulk (Carver, do you have those scans by chance?). When Thanos fought him, they were extremely close, and Thanos even had to put in work to drive him back. Then if you look at how well, Savage Hulk did against Annihi-Hulk, and compare what WB Hulk would do to Annihi-Hulk, it will leave you scratching your head, and then coming to the resounding conclusion, that WB Hulk would absolutely murder Annihi-Hulk. I asked the question earlier on. What exactly did Thanos do with just the Power Gem? No one replied. All I got was this. Your perception isn't factually based. It isn't debating and you do it thread to thread.

Hulk was no taking hits from to amped class 100 villains and no even flinching and the madder Hulk gets the more durable he gets to the point that one time I believe Wolverine couldn't cut hi yet he was able to punture Thanos when he had the power gem. Apex prove he was overrrated.

Originally posted by golem370
Hulk was no taking hits from to amped class 100 villains and no even flinching and the madder Hulk gets the more durable he gets to the point that one time I believe Wolverine couldn't cut hi yet he was able to punture Thanos when he had the power gem. Apex prove he was overrrated. wolverine could cut Hulk he just said it was harder, this was during the WWH story(Logan still sliced him up though)

Logan stabbing Thanos means nothing as it did nothing to injure him, plus Thanos was putting a show on for death.

It means his durability couldn't prevent being cut I wasn't talking about WWH in one in encounter with Wolverine he could not cut Hulk I seen the scan.

Originally posted by golem370
It means his durability couldn't prevent being cut I wasn't talking about WWH in one in encounter with Wolverine he could not cut Hulk I seen the scan. WWH was his strongest persona barring world breaker due to his anger/strength lvl.

Using wolverine stabbing Thanos is a poor example in this case for durability when Thanos has tanked stuff beyond world breakers lvl.

Was WBH durability over come? I am a fan of both characters but if you think his is going fo be easy then you're high. Hulk has done things beyond Thanos ability to tank imo.

Originally posted by golem370
Was WBH durability over come? I am a fan of both characters but if you think his is going fo be easy then you're high. Hulk has done things beyond Thanos ability to tank imo. who said anything about being easy, are you making stuff up because you don't understand?

Well clearly you don't know much about Thanos. He tanked a gas giant exploding at point blank range, where the affects were felt thousands of light years away and made that part of space unliveable forever. He tanked that blast with a smile and no damage and that is with the power gems backing.

The only thing I will bring one instance Hulk and Ironclad slamming into each other is comparable to those feat and it was a weaker Hulk. We are in pretty much in agreement that A it won't be easy and B Thanos wins eventually right?

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Scratches on his clothes =/= damaged. You know his clothes also work as armor? And extremely powerful beings like Tyrant and Omega (clone of galactus with higher raw power) have actually vaporized his clothes armor.



Drax is stronger and more powerful when he is focused on thanos and near thanos.
She hulk doing anything to him should be PIS, unless you believe that she hulk > a planet buster, because that puts her on WBH level.




Based on?

What about thanos matching depowered tyrant, who just standing there ignoring the assault of Surfer, BRB, Gladiator and many more.
And inb4 the amp, he only used the orb for 3 strikes.



Based on?
Anyways, even if we take your statement literally, energy to destroy a planet x 1,000,000,000 = energy tod estroy a sun = silver surfer's strongest attack. We all know how it affects Thanos.


And without the power gem.



The panel saying that " THE PLANET COULDN'T TAKE OUT CLASH" = planet busting. Also, there is nothing such as planet instability and blowing itself up, it is a fan made idea to lowball.

Drax is MUCH stronger in close proximity to thanos and thinking about him, than any other time. Thanos with IG was basically playing with the entire universe. He was allowing them to do everything. Hell, even cut his connection off from the IG at a time. I don't call that a beatdown.

And I'm not using ABC logic, I'm using ACTUAL FEATS. Feats are what matter. I can say daredevil can beat galactus ignoring feats and call everything else ABC logic, but that would be wrong, like what you are saying.

Your logic is so faulty its amazing.
Do you judge a character's strength in a comic by the highest feat they have? Meaning, any other showings are PIS? So Drax destroying a planet is non PIS while every other showing is?

Anyway, characters aren't always operating at the same level in comics. That's why Mar-Vell can manhandle Drax in the same comic he destroyed a planet in.

You can't equate a character's highest feat with any other showing they ever had. That's means you can't say that Colossus was tanking planet destroying punches when he fought Gladiator.

Drax on average is not a planet buster.

What you don't understand is that Hulk's feat is more than a billion times that of anything Thanos endured from a character.

If a character can shatter a planet in a single punch then Thanos would be KOed to such a punch. Hulk will hit him with a billion times more than that though.

Destroying a star has nothing to do with anything. We are talking about physical strength. It takes the energy of a penny to destroy a star. Look at star trek and Dark phoenix. They created supernova by making the core unstable. Doesn't take that much power. We are talking about The strength capable of destroying billions of planets in a single blow.

Thanos holding Tyrants wrists for a moment isn't even on the level as planer busting. Let alone billion planet busting. Nothing Thanos did shows he has the ability to hurt someone who can tank the force of destroying billions of planets in a single blow or has the ability to tank such a force himself.

This thread is so spite it's not funny. These are two astronomically different levels of power here. Thanos with the PG can't tank a punch that can shatter a planet into many pieces.

He has to tank a billion times that here.

The power gems power dwarfs Hulks power easily.

For once read some comics instead of thinking "omg collateral damage".

What feat by ANY PG user compares to the WBH of exerting over a billion times the force of one shotting a planet?

Your math is meaningless and baseless

Originally posted by h1a8
What feat by ANY PG user compares to the WBH of exerting over a billion times the force of one shotting a planet?

sorry, but i have YET to see proof of this "billion times the force planet busting feat"

you have no numbers, atleast accurate cold hard ones.

I was about to give a long post explaining about why regular thanos >>>> WBH, but nevermind, just saw people here believe that WBH can kill PG thanos in one punch, and planet busting >>> Thanos.

It'd be like talking to a brick wall, I'm done with this already.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
I was about to give a long post explaining about why regular thanos >>>> WBH, but nevermind, just saw people here believe that WBH can kill PG thanos in one punch, and planet busting >>> Thanos.

It'd be like talking to a brick wall, I'm done with this already.
Busting a planet with a single blow is beyond Thanos.
If Thanos got hit with such a blow he would be koed or killed.


WBH is beyond a billion times that of busting a planet with a single blow.
WBH is billions of times (or more) more powerful than Thanos.

There is nothing Thsnos has ever done that's on the level of shattering a planet without touching it. This thread is spite. Hulk kills Thanos with a tap.

Originally posted by ghostman
sorry, but i have YET to see proof of this "billion times the force planet busting feat"

you have no numbers, atleast accurate cold hard ones. Pretty much h1 needs to stop spamming the thread with baseless nonsense. Thanos wins here the power gem in his hands makes this spite tbh

Originally posted by h1a8
There is nothing Thsnos has ever done that's on the level of shattering a planet without touching it. This thread is spite. Hulk kills Thanos with a tap. OK we get it no need to spam the thread spotting the same bs it just makes you look like a complete lunatic

Originally posted by h1a8
There is nothing Thsnos has ever done that's on the level of shattering a planet without touching it. This thread is spite. Hulk kills Thanos with a tap. Ridiculous. Thanos wins.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Pretty much h1 needs to stop spamming the thread with baseless nonsense. Thanos wins here the power gem in his hands makes this spite tbh So feats don't count? We argue who we like?

From this point you are trolling. If Thanos wins then simply supply feats showing Thanos generating more power than that of shattering a planet from hundreds of meters away without touching it.
Support your stance by giving comparable or relevant feats.

Originally posted by h1a8
So feats don't count? We argue who we like?

From this point you are trolling. If Thanos wins then simply supply feats showing Thanos generating more power than that of shattering a planet from hundreds of meters away without touching it.
Support your stance by giving comparable or relevant feats. No point trying to play the victim its obvious you are trying to shove your baseless opinion down our throats. You have said your bit now move on troll . Thanos wins

base thanos has done the following things:
Smack inbetweener around, casualty putting him down in one blow.
Kill silver surfer (nearly) in 7 hits
be completely unaffected by hit from Ronan's hammer.
casually one shot lord Marvell who stomped silver surfer and magus.
walk into a blast from gungnir from.Odin who was bloodlusted
fight a heavily amped Thor (who stomped BRB and Surfer) AFTER HE GOT THE POWER GEM and that was pure H2h.
stand in the middle of a black hole the size of a supernova unaffected, and be only slightly hurt when so large black hole COLLAPSES on him as a single point.
Destroyed a planet as a side effect of arm lock against a being who can physically tear apart stars.

The inbetweener was powerless outside his sphere when Thanos stomped him.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
base thanos has done the following things:
Smack inbetweener around, casualty putting him down in one blow.
Kill silver surfer (nearly) in 7 hits
be completely unaffected by hit from Ronan's hammer.
casually one shot lord Marvell who stomped silver surfer and magus.
walk into a blast from gungnir from.Odin who was bloodlusted
fight a heavily amped Thor (who stomped BRB and Surfer) AFTER HE GOT THE POWER GEM and that was pure H2h.
stand in the middle of a black hole the size of a supernova unaffected, and be only slightly hurt when so large black hole COLLAPSES on him as a single point.
Destroyed a planet as a side effect of arm lock against a being who can physically tear apart stars.

Now name the things Hulk has done.

Got killed by Hawkeye

Originally posted by iceman24567
No point trying to play the victim its obvious you are trying to shove your baseless opinion down our throats. You have said your bit now move on troll . Thanos wins Ok fair enough. Forget the physics (you can consult with any physicist about my claim).

Do you agree that WBH feat is many times that of destroying a planet with a single blow? Whether it's 2x or 20x greater? Can you agreed on that?

If so then what feats by Thanos is comparable to destroying a planet with a single blow? Or disintegrating a peer of Savage Hulk with a blow that doesn't even touch them (let alone thousands). If Thanos has no feats on that level then you can't say he wins without trolling right?


Originally posted by apex_pretador
base thanos has done the following things:
Smack inbetweener around, casualty putting him down in one blow.
Kill silver surfer (nearly) in 7 hits
be completely unaffected by hit from Ronan's hammer.
casually one shot lord Marvell who stomped silver surfer and magus.
walk into a blast from gungnir from.Odin who was bloodlusted
fight a heavily amped Thor (who stomped BRB and Surfer) AFTER HE GOT THE POWER GEM and that was pure H2h.
stand in the middle of a black hole the size of a supernova unaffected, and be only slightly hurt when so large black hole COLLAPSES on him as a single point.
Destroyed a planet as a side effect of arm lock against a being who can physically tear apart stars.


None of that comes close to destroying a planet with a single blow.
In the Drax feat, It wasn't a side effect. They caused an instability in the planet. Once the planet was unstable, it blew itself up. The feat is incredible. But it's not equivalent to destroying a planet with a single blow.

Remember, even if it was then WBH is still astronomically above that.

Let's think about a lesser feat. Do you think Thanos, on average, can collide with someone of equal physicality and disintegrate Fing Fang Foom as a result of the shockwave created? WBH disintegratied thousands of these beings.

One more thing. What's your stance on a characters strength in a forum fight? Do you say that the character will be operating at their highest strength ever shown or the strength they operate typically at in most comics?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
The inbetweener was powerless outside his sphere when Thanos stomped him. Was it stated somewhere? I mean Thanos did say that it will take a combined effort of him & Inbetweener to break the barrier put by Chaos / order and neither of them could do it alone. I believe this means something.
Plus Inbetweener also had the soul gem with him.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Was it stated somewhere? I mean Thanos did say that it will take a combined effort of him & Inbetweener to break the barrier put by Chaos / order and neither of them could do it alone. I believe this means something.
Plus Inbetweener also had the soul gem with him. yeah it was shown and stated. Once Thanos freed IB , he tried then attack Thanos for his powers not to work because he was where chaos and order meet. Thanos then explains to IB that his powers worked in the sphere due to his masters kindness so he didnt get bored etc.

oh ok

Originally posted by Stoic
Based on implied power, Thanos stomps. Based on feats, WB Hulk murders him. This was my first thought when I read the thread title. Then I was thinking Thanos with the power gem would be too much. Now I'm not sure.

The WBH arc was small, so the feats are pretty much what they are. I would like to know Thanos' best pure strength feats, and then know the power gem's best strength feats. If someone could post feats without being a fan of either side, it would help.

Went WBH with Classic Drax.


http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/6253/297020-thanos_planet_bust_super.jpg

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/6253/297019-thanos_planet_bust_2_super.jpg

Originally posted by Badabing
This was my first thought when I read the thread title. Then I was thinking Thanos with the power gem would be too much. Now I'm not sure.

The WBH arc was small, so the feats are pretty much what they are. I would like to know Thanos' best pure strength feats, and then know the power gem's best strength feats. If someone could post feats without being a fan of either side, it would help.

Do your own research, GOOMBA GECKO!!!!

Originally posted by Badabing
This was my first thought when I read the thread title. Then I was thinking Thanos with the power gem would be too much. Now I'm not sure.

The WBH arc was small, so the feats are pretty much what they are. I would like to know Thanos' best pure strength feats, and then know the power gem's best strength feats. If someone could post feats without being a fan of either side, it would help. The only thing that could help you is chicken parm you better use those short arms to steal Peyton Mannings sandwich

Just for reference Classic Drax had some retarded high end feats.

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/otros/drax%20el%20sol.jpg

@Celey...

That's nothing like WBH showing. One character alone that melted during the clash changes this. Fing Fang was 17 time more powerful than Hercules and he melted from the backlash of power. Destroying a planet is one thing but Thanos and Drax isn't melting an upper tier being from their Shockwaves, let alone Colossus or Ironman.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Went WBH with Classic Drax.


http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/6253/297020-thanos_planet_bust_super.jpg

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/6253/297019-thanos_planet_bust_2_super.jpg
That's class 40 drax who was weaker than She Hulk by his own admission.

Originally posted by carver9
@Celey...

That's nothing like WBH showing. One character alone that melted during the clash changes this. Fing Fang was 17 time more powerful than Hercules and he melted from the backlash of power. Destroying a planet is one thing but Thanos and Drax isn't melting an upper tier being from their Shockwaves, let alone Colossus or Ironman. there was no one around to melt from the shockwaves.

Plus that is pre death Thanos before he was upgraded, therefore its the weakest version of Thanos.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's class 40 drax who was weaker than She Hulk by his own admission.

Drax is always stronger when he's fighting Thanos, it's in his DNA.

He is Thanos Silver bullet which weakens him. Not that he gets stronger.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's class 40 drax who was weaker than She Hulk by his own admission.


And?

This isn't about Drax. And yet he performed a series of crazy cheese feats that Shulk can only ever dream about. I didn't write it so u might as well deal with it and not get your panties all in a bunch.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
And?

This isn't about Drax. And yet he performed a series of crazy cheese feats. I didn't write it so u might as well deal with it and not get your panties all in a bunch.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He is Thanos Silver bullet which weakens him. Not that he gets stronger. He clearly is more enraged when fighting Thanos. He became strong enough to rip through Thanos shields when facing Thanos.

Iirc in marvel 2in1 #2 when Drax is searching for Thanos he encounters the Avengers and the have trouble subduing him.

Originally posted by quanchi112

I swear. This guy is so insecure that whenever a powerful character other than Superman performs incredible feats, he gets all miserable inside.


Abhi. NO ONE IS ATTACKING SUPERMAN HERE. Happy now?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I swear. This guy is so insecure that whenever a powerful character other than Superman performs incredible feats, he gets all miserable inside.


Abhi. NO ONE IS ATTACKING SUPERMAN HERE. Happy now? He is so insecure it's hilarious. I imagine tears streaming down his face all the time.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Do your own research, GOOMBA GECKO!!!! Originally posted by iceman24567
The only thing that could help you is chicken parm you better use those short arms to steal Peyton Mannings sandwich It's like the same person posted twice.

Originally posted by Badabing
This was my first thought when I read the thread title. Then I was thinking Thanos with the power gem would be too much. Now I'm not sure.

The WBH arc was small, so the feats are pretty much what they are. I would like to know Thanos' best pure strength feats, and then know the power gem's best strength feats. If someone could post feats without being a fan of either side, it would help.
See first post on page 6.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
And?

This isn't about Drax. And yet he performed a series of crazy cheese feats that Shulk can only ever dream about. I didn't write it so u might as well deal with it and not get your panties all in a bunch.
I never gave a shit about space cheese feats. In the same comic where he destroyed planets and stars, he got koed by Captain Mar-Vell.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14079715/CaptainMarvel_43_12.JPG.html

WBH isn't so powerful because he destroyed a planet. He is powerful because he killed three beings as powerful as savage hulk with mere shockwaves of his punches.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
He clearly is more enraged when fighting Thanos. He became strong enough to rip through Thanos shields when facing Thanos.

That's just because he was Thanos silver bullet as explained explicitly in the comic.



Issue number? I don't recall Drax ever appearing in Marvel Two In One.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I swear. This guy is so insecure that whenever a powerful character other than Superman performs incredible feats, he gets all miserable inside.


Abhi. NO ONE IS ATTACKING SUPERMAN HERE. Happy now?
facepalm

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's just because he was Thanos silver bullet as explained explicitly in the comic.



Issue number? I don't recall Drax ever appearing in Marvel Two In One. it says Thanos gets weaker , yet Drax radiated with energy and became strong enough to tear through his shielding. His shields were not weakened.


Iirc it's #2, if not it may be the early Thanos vs Avengers (pre death Thanos)

Originally posted by Insane Titan
it says Thanos gets weaker , yet Drax radiated with energy and became strong enough to tear through his shielding. His shields were not weakened.


Iirc it's #2, if not it may be the early Thanos vs Avengers (pre death Thanos)
Drax was never specified as being stronger. Thanos was weaker and same energy aura helped him rip through his shields. Not taht this new version of Drax has any similarity to the previous versions. He doesn't has energy blasts for starters and is a skilled warrior when the previous drax was simply a brute. And classic Drax never showed any hint about making Thanos weaker or being stronger in Thanos vicinity.

Drax has looked vastly weaker than Thor on both times they fought, Thor 314 and Avengers 220.

I'm not sure which fight you are talking about.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Drax was never specified as being stronger. Thanos was weaker and same energy aura helped him rip through his shields. Not taht this new version of Drax has any similarity to the previous versions. He doesn't has energy blasts for starters and is a skilled warrior when the previous drax was simply a brute. And classic Drax never showed any hint about making Thanos weaker or being stronger in Thanos vicinity.

Drax has looked vastly weaker than Thor on both times they fought, Thor 314 and Avengers 220.

I'm not sure which fight you are talking about. the first Drax wasn't a dumb brute at all. It's clear from the way he acted around Thanos through his sheer desire to kill him he was more aggressive/stronger.
It pretty evident he got stronger as he matched Thanos In strength tussle that blew up the planet. That same Thanos was swatting aside Thor,Beast , Iron man and Vision at once.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
the first Drax wasn't a dumb brute at all. It's clear from the way he acted around Thanos through his sheer desire to kill him he was more aggressive/stronger.

Never said dumb brute. Simply a brute.

I'd like to see even an implication of him getting stronger in the vicinity of



Actually that Thanos was revealed to be a robot at the end of the issue and not the real Thanos.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Never said dumb brute. Simply a brute.

I'd like to see even an implication of him getting stronger in the vicinity of



Actually that Thanos was revealed to be a robot at the end of the issue and not the real Thanos.

it was the real Thanos that faced the avengers and Thing and Thor together.

Yes, the Thanos Drax fought in Iron Man 55 wasn't.

The Thanos that blew up a planet whilst he and Drax were wrestling with each was the same Thanos that threw around the avengers. Later in that issue the same Thanos is turned to stone to Adam warlock

Barring Omega, ALL thanos robots / clones are weaker than Thanos, some are not even close.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
The Thanos that blew up a planet whilst he and Drax were wrestling with each was the same Thanos that threw around the avengers. Later in that issue the same Thanos is turned to stone to Adam warlock
No, Thanos did not appear in Iron Man 55 where Drax fought a Thanos robot.

That Thanos oneshotted Drax without any difficulty in Logan's run 6 and wouldn't have been stalemated by Drax.

Heck, Iron Man destroyed that robot.Originally posted by apex_pretador
Barring Omega, ALL thanos robots / clones are weaker than Thanos, some are not even close.
And?

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, Thanos did not appear in Iron Man 55 where Drax fought a Thanos robot.

That Thanos oneshotted Drax without any difficulty in Logan's run 6 and wouldn't have been stalemated by Drax.

Heck, Iron Man destroyed that robot.
And? it's the same Thanos that swatted around the Avengers in marvel 2in1 #2 as the same Thanos Drax matched strength with that destroyed the planet.

Thanos one shotted Drax with a energy blast in the final flower storyline not with physical force.

Why are you rambling so much.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
it's the same Thanos that swatted around the Avengers in marvel 2in1 #2 as the same Thanos Drax matched strength with that destroyed the planet.

Thanos one shotted Drax with a energy blast in the final flower storyline not with physical force.

Why are you rambling so much.
No it wasn't. Iron man destroyed that robot.

Are you saying somehow Drax became stronger near Thanos with no such indication or implication based on him fighting a robot Thanos?

Just one scene saying Drax becomes stronger near Thanos would be suffice. One.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No it wasn't. Iron man destroyed that robot.

Are you saying somehow Drax became stronger near Thanos with no such indication or implication based on him fighting a robot Thanos?

Just one scene saying Drax becomes stronger near Thanos would be suffice. One. haha no, the robot iron man destroyed with one punch wouldn't have survive the planet exploding. Even Iron man himself said Thanos must have switched in a robot whilst him and Drax were fighting the blood brothers moments before.

You have the scene but chose to ignore it. It's crystal clear Drax becomes more aggressive/ driven/ focused how ever you want to put it when hunting down/fighting Thanos. It's in his DNA, is the sole purpose he was created for.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
haha no, the robot iron man destroyed with one punch wouldn't have survive the planet exploding. Even Iron man himself said Thanos must have switched in a robot whilst him and Drax were fighting the blood brothers moments before.


That's Iron Man speculating.

And no, Thanos has no reason to flee from Iron Man and Drax.

Yes. Where is it that he becomes stronger?

Because that's what you are claiming.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's Iron Man speculating.

And no, Thanos has no reason to flee from Iron Man and Drax.

Yes. Where is it that he becomes stronger?

Because that's what you are claiming.

Haha so you think a weak robot would survive a planetary explosion but not a single punch from iron man. Yeah Iron man obviously understood what had happened. It's not hard to understand why that was said.

It's in the showing, he matched Thanos for strength. Yet he couldnt she Hulk or Marvell....like is said he's driven to destroy Thanos no one else.

Yes, because it did so.

Or that it wasn't Thanos. As explained in the comic. But you're using a non existent power of Drax to legitimize a robot Thanos as being the real Thanos.

Good luck with that.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Not to mention all this mad power gem thor and Odin fighting Thanos and only stalemating him.

That wasn't a stalemate. Odin wasn't even going all out and still Thanos couldn't win. Also as someone else mentioned..yep Thanos was damaged.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Haha so you think a weak robot would survive a planetary explosion but not a single punch from iron man.

I don't even know the specific instance you are talking about, but I will point out that explosions tend to have the energy/force of it spread out over a large area. Whereas a punch can be a lot of force delivered to one specific small area all at once.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, because it did so.

Or that it wasn't Thanos. As explained in the comic. But you're using a non existent power of Drax to legitimize a robot Thanos as being the real Thanos.

Good luck with that. lol, troll answer.

Originally posted by Surtur
I don't even know the specific instance you are talking about, but I will point out that explosions tend to have the energy/force of it spread out over a large area. Whereas a punch can be a lot of force delivered to one specific small area all at once. the blast ko'd Drax, so yeah it would have destroyed a weak robot.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
lol, troll answer. Originally posted by Insane Titan
the blast ko'd Drax, so yeah it would have destroyed a weak robot.


Drax destroyed a star solo and then got koed by Captain Mar-Vell.

Space cheese is basically meaningless. Still waiting for the scan or issue number where Drax got stronger.

How does him getting koed take away from him destroying a star?

Originally posted by abhilegend


Drax destroyed a star solo and then got koed by Captain Mar-Vell.

Space cheese is basically meaningless. Still waiting for the scan or issue number where Drax got stronger.

which would have easily damaged a weak robot that couldn't tank a punch from Iron man. Starks words prove you wrong .

You've already had it, but you're doing the usually "sticks fingers in ears routine" when you know you're wrong.