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Warmup: Pre-Mandalorian Wars Revan

1. Mandalorian Wars Revan

2. Darth Revan

3. KotOR Revan

4. Novel Revan

5. Revan Reborn

-- Break: Foundry Revan --

6. SoR Revan

KoTOR.

Difference between 3 and 4, and 4 and 5?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Difference between 3 and 4, and 4 and 5?

Novel Revan has a few years on KotOR Revan, I guess. Just there to make the gauntlet look longer, lol.

Revan Reborn is him after he gets his mask. Novel Revan is pre-mask (so, say on Rekkiad).

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
KoTOR.

Why?

I don't think that Revan after having regained his memories increased enormously in power ( I think it was substantial but not enormous ). His inherent power wasn't hampered only his knowledge and mastery and therefore I think he holds a substantial power advantage over Mace and that Revan while not as skilled isn't outclassed in this department as has been pointed out by both Ant and recently Antoine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPVky2zoI58

It's possible he does make it past KoTOR Revan but he cannot make it past RR.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Novel Revan has a few years on KotOR Revan, I guess. Just there to make the gauntlet look longer, lol.

Revan Reborn is him after he gets his mask. Novel Revan is pre-mask (so, say on Rekkiad).
I'd say KotOR Revan is better than pre-mask novel Revan.

How do you figure that?

Novel Revan really pulled his power within himself and only dishes out the bare minimum. In contrast, KotOR is tearing through armies.

It's a matter of mindset, really.

*Shrug*

5, 6

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Novel Revan really pulled his power within himself and only dishes out the bare minimum. In contrast, KotOR is tearing through armies.

It's a matter of mindset, really.

Against Mace, I doubt he'd hold back.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I don't think that Revan after having regained his memories increased enormously in power ( I think it was substantial but not enormous ). His inherent power wasn't hampered only his knowledge and mastery and therefore I think he holds a substantial power advantage over Mace and that Revan while not as skilled isn't outclassed in this department as has been pointed out by both Ant and recently Antoine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPVky2zoI58

It's possible he does make it past KoTOR Revan but he cannot make it past RR.

Based on what is Revan holding a "substantial power advantage" over Mace?

By ashing Nyriss.

5

Originally posted by SunRazer
Based on what is Revan holding a "substantial power advantage" over Mace?

The fact that he didn't do all that much between the years he was sexing up Bastilla and giving the Jedi Order the middle finger with his existence to the point he regained his memories where as we've established I don't find there to be a large power gap.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
By ashing Nyriss.

That's post-mask Revan, not KotOR Revan

If he's ashing Nyriss with the ease he was in Reborn while also on a nexus, KotOR Revan on neutral grounds with some effort should be capable of doing it.

Maybe with extreme effort. In which case, is that a "substantial" advantage over Mace? Revan won't even be able to use Tutaminis against Mace, anyway.

I take that back. There's no demonstrable strain, but there's no demonstrable ease either.

The gap between KotOR and Reborn doesn't go from "extreme" to "with no noted difficulty." And yes, that's a substantial advantage over Windu. And the point is that tutaminis is an expression of power he can use in other ways, such as telekinesis or lightning.

I beg to differ. Mace's simple charge at Dooku released a shockwave that sent Magnaguards flying. He also partly deflected Sidious' infinitely, infinitely more powerful Lightning. He's also more powerful than early TCW Anakin, who's Force pushed the wreckage of an AT-TE such that the impact was equivalent to a bomb going off. He's more powerful than Yaddle.

KotOR Revan doesn't have any substantial Force advantage.

5-6.

Originally posted by SunRazer
I beg to differ.

Mace's simple charge at Dooku released a shockwave that sent Magnaguards flying.

He also partly deflected Sidious' infinitely, infinitely more powerful Lightning.

He's also more powerful than early TCW Anakin, who's Force pushed the wreckage of an AT-TE such that the impact was equivalent to a bomb going off.

He's more powerful than Yaddle.

KotOR Revan doesn't have any substantial Force advantage.
Lmfao, what?

Okay cool, he knows telekinesis.

No, it's really not infinitely, infinitely more powerful. Not the same anyway.

Oh wow, grats.

Revan's surely going to be scared of Yaddle.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
5-6.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Lmfao, what?

Okay cool, he knows telekinesis.

No, it's really not infinitely, infinitely more powerful.

Oh wow, grats.

Revan's surely going to be scared of Yaddle.



1. He evidently didn't gesture for it, and you see the impact coming from the ground around him and Dooku. So it's either a Force-enhanced charge or some gestureless-telekinesis whilst he was clashing blades with Dooku. And the first one makes more sense.

2. RotS Palpatine's well above novel Vitiate, who has "infinitely more powerful" Lightning than Nyriss.

3. Thank you.

4. Mmhmm.

1. Alright, that puts him, like, approaching Bandon level.

2. As if using a lightsaber to deflect it is even comparable to tutaminis.

3. Kek

4. Kek

Yaddle>Darth Revan

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
1. Alright, that puts him, like, approaching Bandon level.

2. As if using a lightsaber to deflect it is even comparable to tutaminis.

3. Kek

4. Kek

1. Show me Bandon generating shockwaves that send Magnaguards flying with just his lightsaber's contact with someone else.

2. I mean partially deflecting it with his bare hands, obviously. With the lightsaber, he fully deflected it

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Yaddle>Darth Revan
Are you serious?

Originally posted by SunRazer
1. Show me Bandon generating shockwaves that send Magnaguards flying with just his lightsaber's contact with someone else.

2. I mean partially deflecting it with his bare hands, obviously. With the lightsaber, he fully deflected it
1.

2. No he didn't.

1.

2. He does per the script.

Tbh, Yaddle is extremely powerful.I have her >=Malak.

Originally posted by SunRazer
1.

2. He does per the script.

The script says he attempts to block it but fails, lmfao.

Malak stuns Yaddle and fcks her. Yaddle hasn't done shit.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Tbh, Yaddle is extremely powerful.I have her >=Malak.

...

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Malak stuns Yaddle and fcks her. Yaddle hasn't done shit.

Would he really want to stick it to that hairy wrinkled coochie doe? :ew:

Malak would crush Yaddle with his bare hands, Christ.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Malak stuns Yaddle and fcks her. Yaddle hasn't done shit.
Nah, Yaddles feats are better than Sedriss' at leat. Yaddle>Sedriss>Kun

You think Malak could get any better with that bald head and mutated face?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The script says he attempts to block it but fails, lmfao.

Well, people have argued that it was partly successful since Mace wasn't turned into a charred corpse or ash like the Dark Side Prophets.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
You think Malak could get any better with that bald head and mutated face?

Fair enough.

But you don't think he could stasis Bastilla and rape that fine ass repeatedly?

Originally posted by SunRazer
Well, people have argued that it was partly successful since Mace wasn't turned into a charred corpse or ash like the Dark Side Prophets.
As if the movies have ever portrayed Force lightning like that.

So far, for Mace = Revan, you have him TKing MagnaGuards.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
As if the movies have ever portrayed Force lightning like that.

So far, for Mace = Revan, you have him TKing MagnaGuards.

Tbh Ant's got a point here.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
As if the movies have ever portrayed Force lightning like that.

So far, for Mace = Revan, you have him TKing MagnaGuards.

Well, the comic may also depict him blocking it.

I didn't say Mace = Revan, I said Revan doesn't have a substantial Force advantage. Mace sending Magnaguards flying as a side effect of his charge into Dooku >>> TKing Magnaguards.

It wasn't a side effect. It was him using the Force without a gesture.

Not once in Star Wars have we seen side effects being caused by that shit.

And even if it was, and he did to a dozen, it's not comparable to ashing Nyriss.

Does that seem like him blocking the Lightning? You see the Lightning ending around him in these little orbs, just like when they impact his lightsaber or the wall behind him.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/lfhZlb8ocj1vNbvFWrwoetHZ_JAWfIQ1kKN5bY-5ruSTIHGw3k0fgppgh8COvRX_7XKku7CWxloU=s0

No.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Does that seem like him blocking the Lightning? You see the Lightning ending around him in these little orbs, just like when they impact his lightsaber or the wall behind him.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/lfhZlb8ocj1vNbvFWrwoetHZ_JAWfIQ1kKN5bY-5ruSTIHGw3k0fgppgh8COvRX_7XKku7CWxloU=s0

Tbh Nova's got a point there.

How would he be blocking it with tutaminis when the lightning impacts are seen everywhere but his hand, lmfao.

Three of them end right next to his hand, lol.

I said Deflection, not Tutaminis. You don't need hand contact.

They're not near his hand.

EDIT: And even if so, which it isn't, deflecting one bolt of Palpatine's lightning isn't comparable regardless.

We know for a fact that by that point, Palpatine was feigning weakness. Lucas stated that.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Fair enough.

But you don't think he could stasis Bastilla and rape that fine ass repeatedly?
Tbh Syn got a point here.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
They're not near his hand.

EDIT: And even if so, which it isn't, deflecting one bolt of Palpatine's lightning isn't comparable regardless.

We know for a fact that by that point, Palpatine was feigning weakness. Lucas stated that.

There's two right beneath his hand, and one right above it. That's proximate enough for Deflection, given how in OCW, Obi-Wan deflected Durge's pellets like that.

Palpatine was feigning weakness, but this Lightning was still powerful enough to bend Mace's blade.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Tbh Syn got a point here.

Tbh Urs has got a point there.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Tbh Urs has got a point there.
I know

Originally posted by SunRazer
There's two right beneath his hand, and one right above it. That's proximate enough for Deflection, given how in OCW, Obi-Wan deflected Durge's pellets like that.

Palpatine was feigning weakness, but this Lightning was still powerful enough to bend Mace's blade.
So far you've got the following:

a.) Moving two MagnaGuards with telekinesis
b.) Possibly deflecting a bolt of Palpatine's fake lightning

Damn, really setting the bar high there. Revan's nervous.

As I said, said fake Lightning was still enough to bend lightsaber blades. So yeah, KotOR Revan's not enjoying any substantial Force advantage here.

EDIT: And it's three bolts, not one

Nova you see someone named Orix right? Im not imagining him, I know he's real!

Are we seriously now arguing that ashing a Dark Council member is only on par with bending lightsaber blades?

Jesus Christ.

Please elaborate how bending a lightsaber blade is impressive, namely by citing something we can compare it to.

And the full storm was doing that, not three bolts. It's not even relevant to Mace's possibility (which is less than 50%) of deflecting it.

Ant you see them right?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Are we seriously now arguing that ashing a Dark Council member is only on par with bending lightsaber blades?

Jesus Christ.

Please elaborate how bending a lightsaber blade is impressive, namely by citing something we can compare it to.

And the full storm was doing that, not three bolts. It's not even relevant to Mace's possibility (which is less than 50%) of deflecting it.

Not even Vitiate's FLS was bending lightsabers in TOR

Stop talking about me thinking that it's on par. I said Revan doesn't have a substantial Force advantage. This Revan isn't even close to the one that demolished Nyriss

Proof?

Uh, he's definitely close.

;-;

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Proof?

Uh, he's definitely close.

1. The video where he takes out the Strike Team.

2. Regaining the mask was pretty big, IMO.

1. http://i97.servimg.com/u/f97/17/73/92/12/bend10.png There's a bend.

2. Not really. It's not like he's getting more power, just more mastery and understanding to use the power.

1. lmfao wat

2. Most of the time, when you're getting more powerful, it's gaining Master as well.

1. http://i97.servimg.com/u/f97/17/73/92/12/yo_wow10.png

There's a visual bend if you analyze the pixels. I showed the difference in blue and red.

The red should be straight all the way up, but it shifts to blue at the white explosion, meaning it bent backward.

Note that the hilt is also angled the other way of the blade.

2. Most of his power would have been unlocked by this point.

1. Pretty sure you're looking too hard, lol. If you can't really notice it in the actual video, then it doesn't compare.

In fact, it doesn't compare, since the bend is minuscule, as compared to Mace's blade literally being bent back to his face so as to make him choke on ozone.

2. Yes, so gaining mastery = gaining more power.

TOR pixels in general just suck @$$ sometimes.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Malak would crush Yaddle with his bare hands, Christ.
Myth. Do it.

Yaddle would crush Malak with her long, wavey hair.

Originally posted by SunRazer
1. Pretty sure you're looking too hard, lol. If you can't really notice it in the actual video, then it doesn't compare.

In fact, it doesn't compare, since the bend is minuscule, as compared to Mace's blade literally being bent back to his face so as to make him choke on ozone.

2. Yes, so gaining mastery = gaining more power.
Exal Kressh literally disintegrated Teneb Kel's Lightsaber with Force Lightning.

Exal Kressh >>> Palpatine, right?

She didn't disintegrate the blade, LMFAO. She destroyed the hilt. That's not special and doesn't compare to bending the blade

I'd say 3.

Originally posted by SunRazer
1. Pretty sure you're looking too hard, lol. If you can't really notice it in the actual video, then it doesn't compare.
I'm trying to express how ridiculous your argument is in the first place. And no, it is noticeable, and on a constant backwards bend.



... no.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I'm trying to express how ridiculous your argument is in the first place. And no, it is noticeable, and on a constant backwards bend.



... no.

1. lol No Palpatine's Lightning is still infinitely more powerful than Nyriss'. Mace repelled/absorbed less, but they were much more powerful bolts.

No, it's not noticeable or comparable to the one in the RotS.

2. Yes.