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I know this isn't all anime characters but...whatever. All fights take place in a random pocket dimension. Full rest (if that's even necessary) in between fights

Warm-up: Lifebringer Galactus

1. IG Thanos
2. The Living Tribunal
3. God Emperor Doom
4. Full-powered Spectre
5. COIE Anti-Monitor

Boss: Michael Demiurgos

For shits and giggles: PR Beyonder.

Stops at Galactus.

Originally posted by cdtm
Stops at Galactus.

Rofl. Reasoning?

Lol...he knows nothing of Galactus or any other Marvel character (DC as well). You can tell. Galactus expended all of his energy destroying a couple of solar systems. He isn't even a threat to OMNI King.


CDTM is just a DB troll.

This is LB Galactus, tbf.

That said, yeah, no incarnation of Galactus stands a ghost of a chance against Zeno.

Loses to IG Thanos imo. If Zeno by some miracle gets past, the LT will wipe him from existance.

Stops dead hard at Thanos.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Raisining?

Stops at Living Tribunal.

I just realized something. Zeno said he was going to destroy "this world." When Whis referred to "this world," he was referring to all twelve universes, and I assume the other small dimensions like Otherworld and the Deamon realm, too. So, if we are to assume that Zeno didn't just destroy Universe 7 but all 12+ universes (which is likely, given Zamasu said he killed ALL the gods), then he probably gets to boss, if not clears.

ROFLKEK.

Zeno stands no chance past 3, IMO, and 3 should beat him too.

Think of it this way: PR Beyonder tanked a blast that could have annihilated several billion universes. His response to the attack? A cough and a laugh.

Fair enough. I concede to your higher logic

Sorry for my overly-strong response.

But yeah, while Zeno is indeed ludicrously strong (even by Marvel standards,) there are simply some characters that are beyond ludicrous in power. There are characters that can solo this entire gauntlet in an instant, if you can imagine that.

Honestly, I don't know anything about God Emperor Doom. Excluding him though, I'd definitely give Zeno at least a good chance against Spectre and the Anti-monitor.

If you really think about it, Cosmic Zamasu basically did the same thing that the Anti-monitor did. I've read all of COIE's, and basically all the Anti-monitor did, iirc, was absorb the DC multiverse, expanding his own anti-matter universe with it.

Cosmic Zamasu literally became the entirety of universe 7, and expanded his consciousness all the way into the past, present and future of Trunk's entire timeline. He essentially merged his consciousness with the four dimensions of that universe, which is why even Beerus would have needed to resort to a sealing technique to defeat him.

Zeno-sama literally just destroyed the entirety of that timeline. The only things that survived from it were Trunks and Mai, which was because they were outside of their timeline at that point. This is also why they would still be alive in the new future that Whiss offered to take them to, meaning there would be two Mai's and Trunks' in that timeline- it was a completely different timeline within the same universe.

The anti-monitor did essentially the same thing, but the scale was different, in that he didn't affect the continuities of the multiverse.

If I'm remembering this wrong, go ahead and correct me.

Yeah though, Zeno stops hard at Michael Demiurgos. Who knows though, he may get the feats to beat him at some point. Wouldn't really surprise me that much, tbh.

TOAA takes them all at once.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Zeno stands no chance past 3, IMO, and 3 should beat him too.


Nah, he also doesn't stand a chance against Classic LT.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Honestly, I don't know anything about God Emperor Doom. Excluding him though, I'd definitely give Zeno at least a good chance against Spectre and the Anti-monitor.

If you really think about it, Cosmic Zamasu basically did the same thing that the Anti-monitor did. I've read all of COIE's, and basically all the Anti-monitor did, iirc, was absorb the DC multiverse, expanding his own anti-matter universe with it.

Cosmic Zamasu literally became the entirety of universe 7, and expanded his consciousness all the way into the past, present and future of Trunk's entire timeline. He essentially merged his consciousness with the four dimensions of that universe, which is why even Beerus would have needed to resort to a sealing technique to defeat him.

Zeno-sama literally just destroyed the entirety of that timeline. The only things that survived from it were Trunks and Mai, which was because they were outside of their timeline at that point. This is also why they would still be alive in the new future that Whiss offered to take them to, meaning there would be two Mai's and Trunks' in that timeline- it was a completely different timeline within the same universe.

The anti-monitor did essentially the same thing, but the scale was different, in that he didn't affect the continuities of the multiverse.

If I'm remembering this wrong, go ahead and correct me.

Yeah though, Zeno stops hard at Michael Demiurgos. Who knows though, he may get the feats to beat him at some point. Wouldn't really surprise me that much, tbh.

1. God Emperor Doom was Doom drawing on the power of the nigh-omnipotent Molecule Man, who possessed the powers of the entire Beyonder Race, 3 of which killed all the Marvel Abstracts, including the Living Tribunal, (though the power level of the Beyonders is inconsistent, Owen is undoubtledly at PR-levels again). God Emperor Doom was essentially unchallenged, as he shitstomped the IG when he got serious, and nothing could really hurt him in any way.

2.COIE AM had the power of both the DC Multiverse and the Antimatter Multiverse. He was so powerful that a full powered/amped Spectre who was implied to be more powerful than The Presence wasn't his superior. Now while Spectr > Presence was definitely hyperbole, it tells you how much ridiculous power he was packing:

http://i.imgur.com/t7pEbVp.jpg

3. Cosmic Zamasu, while yeah, immensely powerful in his own right. Is less than microbial compared to the AM. The DB Multiverse he may or may not have permeated, (it was stated he became the universe, not the whole multiverse,) is infinitely smaller than the entire DC Multiverse.

4. AM's effect on DC was so profound that it caused an entire reboot: hence the use of terms such as Pre Crisis and Post Crisis. To put it in perspective, his power makes the IG insignificant by comparison.

5. I'm having a hard time believing he'd ever get a feat that'd put him above Michael, who possesses the literal demiurgic power of God.

Anyways, the extent of what Zeno destroyed is an instant is:

-12 universes, each with separate dimensions such as Heaven and Hell, along with the 13th universe that holds them all and is presumably vastly larger

-a Cosmic Zamasu who had become one with the universe, essentially turning into some sort of conceptual being, who was warping/affecting reality to the extent that the alternate present timeline was being altered/warped

-all of the angels like Whis/Vados/Daishinkan, the former 2 being infinitely above a casual universe buster, (Beerus,) and the latter being the strongest being in the multiverse sans Zeno.

As aforementioned, Zeno did this instantly and with no effort. I'll explain later why I think he can possibly get to 3.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
1. God Emperor Doom was Doom drawing on the power of the nigh-omnipotent Molecule Man, who possessed the powers of the entire Beyonder Race, 3 of which killed all the Marvel Abstracts, including the Living Tribunal, (though the power level of the Beyonders is inconsistent, Owen is undoubtledly at PR-levels again). God Emperor Doom was essentially unchallenged, as he shitstomped the IG when he got serious, and nothing could really hurt him in any way.

2.COIE AM had the power of both the DC Multiverse and the Antimatter Multiverse. He was so powerful that a full powered/amped Spectre who was implied to be more powerful than The Presence wasn't his superior. Now while Spectr > Presence was definitely hyperbole, it tells you how much ridiculous power he was packing:

http://i.imgur.com/t7pEbVp.jpg

3. Cosmic Zamasu, while yeah, immensely powerful in his own right. Is less than microbial compared to the AM. The DB Multiverse he may or may not have permeated, (it was stated he became the universe, not the whole multiverse,) is infinitely smaller than the entire DC Multiverse.

4. AM's effect on DC was so profound that it caused an entire reboot: hence the use of terms such as Pre Crisis and Post Crisis. To put it in perspective, his power makes the IG insignificant by comparison.

5. I'm having a hard time believing he'd ever get a feat that'd put him above Michael, who possesses the literal demiurgic power of God.

1. Yeah, I realize how impressive those feats are. I simply don't know hardly anything about Doom, let alone God Emperor Doom. If he's truly PR Beyonder level though, he should effortlessly stomp anyone on this list, Zeno included.

2. I realize that we're only discussing COIE's AM here, but I didn't see his feats as that impressive. His most impressive feat tbh was overpowering the Spectre. Btw, the Spectre was not implied to be more powerful than the Presence. He is the manifestation of the Presence's wrath. He's powerful, but he's just a portion of the Presence.

3. The DBZ multiverse is just as massive as any other. The only difference is that there are a total of only 13 universes, yet there are also infinite timelines, and realities within said universes. Which is how Trunks and Mai were able to go back to a timeline similar to their own, to a point before Zamasu showed up, where they didn't have to fear for the Omni King destroying the entire universe later on.

4. That may be true, but you're severely exaggerating AM's scale here. He was able to effect all of the DC multiverse, but this was only by absorbing every universe, one at a time. The more he absorbed the more powerful he became. However, he was extremely unimpressive when actually faced with the Earth's forces in combat. His entire shell was destroyed, and he was knocked out, when Dr. Light caused the equivalent of an exploding star's worth of energy to explode from inside him. This was after she absorbed said stars worth of energy from AM, but that level of energy would be utterly less than insignificant to him, if he were truly as powerful as you're making him out to be.

He was extremely powerful, but this was only due to his armor absorbing the power of a multiverse. Even then, however, a single attack bypassing his armor was able to severely harm him, regardless of it being severely insignificant to his overall power. He is multiversal, sure. But he's a multiversal being that was unable to fight off three versions of Superman, and he has been defeated plenty of times since then, all by a cast of weaker-than-Superman characters.

5. Eh. Who knows? I'm curious to know what your opinion is on just how powerful Lucifer Morningstar is. I would compare him to someone like PR Beyonder, granted I don't know very much about either characters. Just curious about your thoughts, as you seem to know much more about both of them than I do.

Not true. There's twelve universes, and five different timelines in the DBverse. Even including the space that contains the twelve universes as a universe, it's much smaller than the Marvel/DC multiverse.

^yup.

I'll respond to the rest when I get the chance.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Not true. There's twelve universes, and five different timelines in the DBverse. Even including the space that contains the twelve universes as a universe, it's much smaller than the Marvel/DC multiverse.

This is why I think Zeno doesn't stand a chance against Classic LT. There was one LT for all Marvel Multiverse. Already that puts him above Zeno. Classic LT, generally the most powerful being in MU besides TOAA. Then Marvel Multiverse much much much... much bigger than DB universe.

Zeno maybe could beat IG Thanos.

Classic LT has so many low showings, doe.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Classic LT has so many low showings, doe.

Yes, we all know LT sometimes jobbed big time. One LT for whole Marvel Multiverse puts him above Zeno easily in my eyes. Such being, I easily consider him simply above someone like Zeno. He is simply more powerful, grandiose being.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Classic LT has so many low showings, doe.

Many low showings?

Relative to the little amount of showings he has, yes.

I.e. His showings against Nebulos, Korvac, and Strange. While yeah, he's constantly stated to be this all-powerful, omnipresent being, his showings don't necessarily reflect that. Even his BEST showings aren't indicative of some omniversal deity, or at least I can't think of any that would make him so.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Relative to the little amount of showings he has, yes.

I.e. His showings against Nebulos, Korvac, and Strange. While yeah, he's constantly stated to be this all-powerful, omnipresent being, his showings don't necessarily reflect that. Even his BEST showings aren't indicative of some omniversal deity, or at least I can't think of any that would make him so.

I'm curious as to why you would consider his showing against Nebulos or Strange for that matter a weak showing, especially considered we are at a time in Marvel history where the Ancient One was capable of grappling with Eternity. Korvac is a low showing, that I agree. However it's at the same time also a very good showing.

Contending with the sum total of a universe and contending with the Supreme Being of the Marvel Omniverse are two different things entirely. LT simply has no good showings to speak of relative to his supposed omniversal levels of power.

I also forgot about Scathan overruling LT.

Point being, people are saying classic LT wins, but...how? Like what would he do to defeat the guy who destroyed a DB Multiverse and all its mighty inhabitants with absolutely no effort?

Gets slaughtered at No 1. Zeno can potentially destroy 12 universes, THanos with the IG at peak had the entire Multiverse, trillions of universe in the palm of his hand

Zeno cries and begs for his life before Thanos blinks him out of existence, the rest of the matches are just plain cruel

No, he didn't.

Don't pay Rad any attention...he's a troll that shows up once every other week to piss people off.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I know this isn't all anime characters but...whatever. All fights take place in a random pocket dimension. Full rest (if that's even necessary) in between fights

Warm-up: Lifebringer Galactus

1. IG Thanos
2. The Living Tribunal
3. God Emperor Doom
4. Full-powered Spectre
5. COIE Anti-Monitor

Boss: Michael Demiurgos

For shits and giggles: PR Beyonder.
Galactus wins.
From IG Thanos up it's spite.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't pay Rad any attention...he's a troll that shows up once every other week to piss people off. As oppose to you showing up every day to piss people off with your Dragon Ball pole smoking? Get real

Zeno cries and soils his huggies before hilariously getting erased with a thought along with the rest of his trash pathetic multiverse.

Originally posted by cdtm
Stops at Galactus.