What I believe

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cdtm
For your ideology. No arguing allowed, consider this a "safe space" and please take debates to other threads.

I believe..

That actions often have unintended consequences.

That the constitution, and political system in general, is imperfect. And that where it counts, it works fine as is.

That it's foolish/pointless to worry about how other people live their lives, or shame them for it. Don't like "welfare leeches"? Guess what, there will always be "leeches", or underachievers, or people who otherwise fall short of your expectations. They're not going anywhere, and we aren't about to let anybody starve to death if we can help it.

That said, there will always be overachievers. Nobody needs to be encouraged to seek fortune, status, or success. This is something every human being wants, and those that can, will.

Lord Lucien
Originally posted by cdtm
"safe space" I believe I am #Tiggered.


I believe I can fly.


I believe in a thing called love.


I believe that whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you... stranger.


I believe that when you say the word 'believe' enough it sounds super strange. Be leave. B leeve. Baleve. Behlaeve.

Weird right?

shiv
You Are O.K.

This I believe.

Lord Lucien
No matter what they tell us. No matter what they do. No matter what they teach us. What we believe is true.

Henry_Pym
I believe in Sargon's law

I believe that Trantenders breed more transphobes, than anything else combined.

I believe that the taboo on fascism, racism and the like is actually going to fuel it's return.

I believe that we Americans just witnessed the death of the two party political system and think we may see the splintering of the Republican party. Democrats need to reassemble and find their base again.

riv6672
I believe there is no reason for White Guilt.
No other race had the wherewithal to get shit going on this planet. To exolore it, conquer it, civilize and advance it.
Did it come at a price? Of course. Everything does.
BUT. I'm sitting at home watching a DVRd show while eating Fritos and using the internet.
That beats the SHIT out of sitting in a mud hut scratching my balls hoping for no lion attacks tonight.

THANK you, white people.

Lord Lucien
I believe that Aristotle was correct. That some men are born slaves.

I believe that the white man did a great thing enslaving black people. Now they're at least mostly human.

I believe that pillaging, raping, colonizing, and slaughtering the people of foreign lands is the only way to progress society, and the only reason white people could do such a thing is because they're genetically superior to everyone else.

I believe geography had noting to do with it whatsoever. White power! White nationalism! Make America white again! Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail victory!

cdtm
I believe it's going to be an interesting 2020 election when voters realize they've been screwed again by a guy making big promises.

I dearly wish Trump would run as a Democrat, just to see if people FINALLY get sick enough of a "lesser of two evil scenario" to do something about it. Or, if we just do Kaang or Kodos all over again. (We HAVE to vote for one of them amiright?)

Flyattractor
I believe that a lot of people on this mb are full of Shit.

Mindship
I believe that political affiliation is the last bastion of sanctioned prejudice. I believe it's time to focus less on "Republicans and Democrats"/"Right vs Left"/whatever (as this keeps the focus on people), and more on >>>Rights and Responsibilities<<<, putting the focus on behavior. I believe you can't have one without the other, that Rights w/o Responsibility leads to narcissistic recklessness, and Responsibility w/o Rights, well, that's slavery.

As a corollary to the above: I believe the phrase "responsibility to vote" should be uttered as often as "right to vote," and that choosing not to vote or to vote for a chair (thank you, SNL), is exercising that right irresponsibly.

I believe that instead of everyone being oh-so-sensitive with what words are said, that we need to move in the opposite direction, back to the "Don Rickles" days, when everyone was made fun of and we knew how to laugh at ourselves. I believe the Ten Commandments can be reduced to one: "Lighten Up, people!"

I believe in wealth caps; English should be the official US language; and term limits for Washington politicians.

I believe that thick women are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sticks.

I believe that the Pet Rock and bottled water reflect capitalistic genius.

I believe it's time to /rant.

Khazra Reborn
Originally posted by Mindship


I believe that thick women are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sticks.


thumb up

riv6672
Originally posted by Mindship
I believe that thick women are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sticks.


Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
thumb up

Depends on the stick, but for the most part i also thumb up this.

Adam_PoE
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Surtur
I believe the TMNT cartoon from 2003 was the best out of all the TMNT cartoons.

Shakyamunison
I believe that it is easier to express what I don't believe, then what I do.

Henry_Pym
I believe that the disenfranchisement of white men and the ostracizion of "white feminism" will lead to a rise in white supremacist groups.

I believe calls for diversity and inclusion are synonymous with admitting inferiority for your class/race/sexuality/...

I believe that the people who call Trump a buffoon don't know a tenth of the things he knows, and those who think that lack of experience should block someone from ascending to the presidency are begging for an oligarchy.

Shakyamunison
I believe there are bigots on this threat. ^

Surtur
I believe b*tches ain't shit but hoes and tricks.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Surtur
I believe b*tches ain't shit but hoes and tricks.

laughing

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I believe I can fly.


I believe in a thing called love.


I believe that whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you... stranger.

thumb up

Henry_Pym
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I believe there are bigots on this threat. ^ Don't think you know what Bigot means.

Khazra Reborn
Originally posted by Surtur
I believe the TMNT cartoon from 2003 was the best out of all the TMNT cartoons.

Aw, come on man, the current run is way better.

riv6672
^^^Hell yes it is.
I would have said so but, the Surtur'd go into one of his long deflective diatribes with accompanying YouTube link...stick out tongue

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Don't think you know what Bigot means.

"For your ideology. No arguing allowed, consider this a "safe space" and please take debates to other threads."

cdtm
I believe Democrat voters are screwed.

At least Republicans say "Screw you" up front. Democrats, they say they care, and they don't do enough about it (If they do anything.)

Ask yourself this: Are you voting for the best choice, or voting against the worst?

If you really believe the Republican party is for old white rich xenophobic bigots, and you happen to be a minority, you don't have any other choice at all, do you.

A choice between "**** you" and "I can promise you whatever you want. Now where's by blow and harem of gold diggers?"

And for your information, the top 5% generally vote Republican. The top 1% generally for Democrat.

My point being, I don't see any multi zilliomaire Democrats going into the ghetto and cutting a check for those in need. They spend plenty on ipo's or movie deals, though.

Henry_Pym
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
"For your ideology. No arguing allowed, consider this a "safe space" and please take debates to other threads." you start it and run, typical coward.

riv6672
Haha

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
you start it and run, typical coward.

stupid
laughing out loud

Surtur
Originally posted by riv6672
^^^Hell yes it is.
I would have said so but, the Surtur'd go into one of his long deflective diatribes with accompanying YouTube link...stick out tongue

I've noticed when people have nothing of real value to say they just accuse someone of deflecting.

Anyways, there would be nothing to deflect. The 2003 version even has the awesome crossover with the 1987 turtles called "Turtles Forever". Hell even the black and white comic versions of the turtles show up in that.

Plus there is that season where a new demonic shredder is the bad guy and all the turtles get various magical powers.

Plus it also has the awesome character of Bishop.

Beniboybling
I believe Trump is a competent leader who will Make America Great Again.

Beniboybling
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I believe that Aristotle was correct. That some men are born slaves.

I believe that the white man did a great thing enslaving black people. Now they're at least mostly human.

I believe that pillaging, raping, colonizing, and slaughtering the people of foreign lands is the only way to progress society, and the only reason white people could do such a thing is because they're genetically superior to everyone else.

I believe geography had noting to do with it whatsoever. White power! White nationalism! Make America white again! Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail victory! yes

Surtur
Originally posted by Lord Lucien


I believe that the white man did a great thing enslaving black people. Now they're at least mostly human.

I believe it was awesome that their own people sold them into slavery in the first place. They recognized they needed the guiding hand of white people in order to be all they can be.

riv6672
I believe this thread is coming along quite nicely.

Surtur
I believe the children are our future.

Gadabout
I believe "ism's" are evidence of an immature, fearful and weak mind. (forgot to add "ignorant" )...o.k. carry on-

Beniboybling
Actually it's just an suffix... woops safe space!

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Surtur
I've noticed when people have nothing of real value to say they just accuse someone of deflecting.

You have that backwards.

Surtur
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
You have that backwards.

No, not when it comes to this board at least.

Surtur
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Actually it's just an suffix... woops safe space!

I'm out of play doh and bubbles. I do have some tinker toys and some sparklers though.

I don't have pictures of puppies, perhaps just if I take the cover off my "101 Dalmatians" VHS tape that will suffice.

cdtm
Originally posted by Beniboybling
yes

Aristotle probably had a point, but not in a "race war" way.

By way of example, cult leaders wouldn't have anybody to exploit, if there weren't a lot of people who were exploitable.

But why do cult leaders even know enough to prey on people? Is it because this predator/exploitation dynamic is part of our natures?

Some are desperate to be lead. There's your "slave".

Raisen
I believe I drank too much last night and these liquor shiits will never end

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Raisen
I believe I drank too much last night and these liquor shiits will never end

This. I can totally relate.

And yet, I cannot imagine a better life haermm Sobriety sucks.

Surtur
I never get that kind of stuff, but then again I only drink beer. But when I do drink I tend to drink a lot.

shiv
I believe in Getting Paid



WOO HOO!!

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Raisen
I believe I drank too much last night and these liquor shiits will never end
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
This. I can totally relate.

And yet, I cannot imagine a better life haermm Sobriety sucks.

Totally Called It!

cdtm
I believe, to some extent, the following happens:

Collusion between governmemt and businesses/contractors.

Collusion between prosecutors and judges.

Backroom deals wherever there is money to be made (Per example, a leaked memo that proved Apple and many competitor's had an agreement not to poach each other's top talent, artificially keeping wages lower.)

I'm not sure how widespread corruption really is.. Nobody really knows that. I simply believe it happens, it's too common, and not enough is done to stop it.

Probably because almost everyone talented enough to stop it is putting their hand out and demanding their cut (And it's not like a professional class of killers existing is a secret, nor is it a secret that murders have happened with big enough stakes..)

SquallX
I believe the human is just about run its course.

I believe if we dont do something drastic and says the course we're on now, in the next 50 to a 100 yrs, we face extinction.

I believe it's best to just **** hoes and not worry about marriage if you're a guy.

cdtm
Originally posted by Surtur
I never get that kind of stuff, but then again I only drink beer. But when I do drink I tend to drink a lot.

Three-four pints of imperial stout = shitting dried fertilizer sprays the next day.

cdtm
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
This. I can totally relate.

And yet, I cannot imagine a better life haermm Sobriety sucks.

You pay for it, but you're too drunk to care. laughing

And I believe cigars and drinking is even better then drinking alone. wink

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by SquallX
I believe it's best to just **** hoes and not worry about marriage if you're a guy.

Says the guy living in Miami, FL, heh. Yeah, man. Go for it with the hoes. But there's also some significant STD risks there. wink

SquallX
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Says the guy living in Miami, FL, heh. Yeah, man. Go for it with the hoes. But there's also some significant STD risks there. wink

Am careful, always careful.

Plus is so easy not pretending to care about her problems since there's no relationship.

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by SquallX
Am careful, always careful.

Alright, f#ck dem bitches, den.

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SquallX
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Alright, f#ck dem bitches, den.

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/134/720/7543b5f7cd9aab4e027878f4eda9bc46.jpg

big grin

The job I have, I personally thinks it's better to be single.

cdtm
Liberals lack conviction.

Lets just assume Conservatives are the stereotypical bigoted selfish Randian's the left pretends they are, and nothing more. If you're an "oppressed" people, you can't expect the right to do anything for you.

Yet the left, what are they actually doing? Capitalism is a problem? Ok, so what's the plan to topple Capitalism, and what are you planning to replace it with. Lot of professors and P.H.D. brain trusts on the left. With all their intelligence, surely they have a plan for breaking down society and rebuilding it from the ground up, for the benefit of all. Surely all liberals expect and demand more from their fellow liberals then they would of any conservative to reshape society.

Or if you're a "help the poor" liberal, how many jobs have you provided? How many companies have you created specifically to create job?

You might say the average person can't do much more then vote.. Ok, but what about the rich on the left? What about the privileged? They have the resources to directly help people. Instead, all I see is rich assholes with big homes and lavish lifestyles who are every bit as decadent as the "corporate assholes".

Maybe they denote to charity? News for you, so do Conservatives.

This is why I laugh at poliics.. All this complaining and venom at a side that's deemed as selfish, self interested assholes, yet no effort to shame or make demands of the most privileged in your own party to do more for the oppressed. (And maybe that's the point. Look at Bubba over there with his sister wife, shotgun, and confederate flag. Pay no attention to my millions of dollars, big home, lavish lifestyle, socialite parties. And please protest for the poor outside of my gated community.. Maybe outside Glenn Beck's house. He ADMITS to being self interested. I never said that, I just do jack all while supporting causes and raking on money.)

cdtm
The Washington Post essentially justified gentrification. As did a number of other so called "liberal rags".

If liberalism is defined by hippie-ish standards of a war against the "fat cats", and judging by the failure of "occupy wall street", I'd say the liberals lost the class war.

The communists/socialists in the party have been completely silenced/marginalized, even among the "liberal media".

Surtur
Originally posted by cdtm
Liberals lack conviction.

Lets just assume Conservatives are the stereotypical bigoted selfish Randian's the left pretends they are, and nothing more. If you're an "oppressed" people, you can't expect the right to do anything for you.

Yet the left, what are they actually doing? Capitalism is a problem? Ok, so what's the plan to topple Capitalism, and what are you planning to replace it with. Lot of professors and P.H.D. brain trusts on the left. With all their intelligence, surely they have a plan for breaking down society and rebuilding it from the ground up, for the benefit of all. Surely all liberals expect and demand more from their fellow liberals then they would of any conservative to reshape society.

Or if you're a "help the poor" liberal, how many jobs have you provided? How many companies have you created specifically to create job?

You might say the average person can't do much more then vote.. Ok, but what about the rich on the left? What about the privileged? They have the resources to directly help people. Instead, all I see is rich assholes with big homes and lavish lifestyles who are every bit as decadent as the "corporate assholes".

Maybe they denote to charity? News for you, so do Conservatives.

This is why I laugh at poliics.. All this complaining and venom at a side that's deemed as selfish, self interested assholes, yet no effort to shame or make demands of the most privileged in your own party to do more for the oppressed. (And maybe that's the point. Look at Bubba over there with his sister wife, shotgun, and confederate flag. Pay no attention to my millions of dollars, big home, lavish lifestyle, socialite parties. And please protest for the poor outside of my gated community.. Maybe outside Glenn Beck's house. He ADMITS to being self interested. I never said that, I just do jack all while supporting causes and raking on money.)

You ask "what are the left doing" like great things aren't being done all the time. Pssh, they almost got a single payer health system in California. That is what they are doing, bro.

cdtm
"White people" are not monolithic. At all.

My grandfather on my fathers side is the type who loves to tell stories of the old days, on everything from what the area was like (All farmland) to how everyone had a small business (He had a grocery store.) One day after hearing him complain about a friend of my father who shopped at someone elses store (A personal affront, in his eyes), on an impulse, I asked him if all the pollack's helped each other out and shopped at each others stores. He told me the fellow pole's he knew never shopped at his store.

It's like that. White guys are all in competition with other white guys. If a white guy is a "friend of the oppressed", you can bet he probably doesn't really see a minority (or a woman, or (insert oppressed group here) ) as competition for jobs, home's, or much of anything else.

This is actually point a civil rights activist told to me, and not something I came to believe myself, when I asked him why it seemed like more poor people are openly racist then wealthy people. Not in so many words, but his main point was that poor black people and poor white people are competing for most of the same jobs, and that breeds resentment.

I probably also should have asked whether he really trusted his white allies on the democrat side.. I have a feeling he really doesn't. He'll accept any and all support, but never really trust even the most noble white democrat isn't a racist.. He'll gladly accept his donation's, though.

cdtm
There's a lot of thugs in the world.

Enough so, it makes you wonder how we even have a concepts like equity, compassion, mercy, ect..

I haven't met one person doesn't practice ruthless self interest. No matter what they preach, everyone's always out for themselves.

cdtm
https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/04/16/what-are-corporations-obligations-to-shareholders/a-duty-to-shareholder-value?referer=https://www.google.com/search?q=law+shareholder+value&btnG=&nytmobile=0

A professor of law at U.C.L.A. argues why maximizing shareholder value at any other consideration is good

And that, my friends, is why I believe colleges and universities aren't really so liberal. All people ever focus on are arts and the humanities, where those stupid confrontations with students over safe spaces happens.

Meanwhile, the business and law schools are producing plenty of neo-liberal/conservative future C.E.O.'s, hedge fund managers, business leaders.. Never focus much on them, but this opinion piece is a fine example of one.

Flyattractor
It has been said by others that "The Greatest Enemy of the West is the LEFT!"


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cdtm
Originally posted by Flyattractor
It has been said by others that "The Greatest Enemy of the West is the LEFT!"


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I believe it's good to see you back, and a world where a third of the folks here get to spew their shite proves you may have been snowed. thumb up

cdtm
Most political/social professor's are like the stereotypical housewife: All they do is ***** and moan about everything, and expect other people to solve their "problems"... (Government, white people, the rich..)

Flyattractor
Originally posted by cdtm
I believe it's good to see you back

Don't get used to it.





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ESB -1138
I believe in certain principles. I stand with small government and free markets and religious freedom and personal responsibility. I stand with the Constitution of the United States, and its embedded protection of my God-given rights through governmental checks and balances.

Beniboybling
i believe the invisible hand of the market will guide & protect me.

cdtm
Why would anyone need a gun?

Because karate worked out fine for Ron Goldman against O.J. Simpson and a knife, didn't it? (Going by that book..)

If that story is true, Ron packing a gun sure would have changed the outcome..

Strip away the government vs people or constitutional reasons, and you can't deny there's stronger people and weaker people in the world, and a weak person (who can't get away or contact the police) will be dead meat without a weapon.

So that's reason enough for me to allow carry and conceal laws. Sure, big guys can pack too, but at least it levels the playing field..

Flyattractor
Why The Left Believes YOU shouldn't have a Gun?

Well they don't really like the concept of "EQUALITY" in actual practice.

Beniboybling
i believe if we all had TANKS we'd be the most equal of all.

Flyattractor
Works for Me.

cdtm
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-psychopaths-succeed-2016-6

According to article: About 1% of people are psychopaths, and psychopaths tend to be successful.

The question is, are people born this way, or does success breed psychopathy (The "power corrupts" theory)

One thing about heartlessly manipulating others: That only works if enough people have a heart.

See, if everyone was a psychopath, then psychopaths would have no one to exploit. Therefore, a lot of people should not be psychopaths.

The fact psychopaths tend to gain success from exploiting non psychopaths, and that they even have an awareness that empathy is something to be exploited, leads me to a fairly cynical world view that the empthetic masses exist solely to be exploited by the heartless few. That's the entire point, most people are "human resources", whether they know it or not.

And this "corruption of power" simply means you've made it to the master race. Congratulations, you heartless prick. thumb up

cdtm
And in a less rambling, slightly less cynical note:

The whole Weinstein thing. It marks a problem with modern society in general:

Morality is for the little folk. The big men in society simply don't have any, and no one's enforcing ethics at the top. You can see this everywhere, in every industry, from politics to wal-street to academia to hollywood to silicon valley to publishing to big media. Virtually every perch is occupied by some combination of fairly crumby people.

And that's a problem, because important people don't listen to normal folks. The only thing that can impose a moral center at the top, has to come from people at the top. And far as I can see, that's just not happening.

Flyattractor
Hollywood does make the old tales of Sodom and Gomorrah
look like a Disney Toon these days.

This kind of Weinstein Style Debauchery has been going on for Decades and they have covered it up all tha time. At least they tried to . Every one already knew this shit was going on but whatchyagonnado....

Adam_PoE
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Flyattractor
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cdtm
Remember "Rich Dad, Poor Dad"? A guy writes about the lessons he learned from a "rich dad" and a "poor dad". It sold a ton, captured the imagination of an era, And it turned out the story was fabricated.

The counter culture of the 60's, it all has roots from a single writer, who told kids they were being screwed over by their parents. They ate it up, and revolted.

The concept of corporations existing solely to pad the pockets of investors stems from a writer. That writer later claimed his work was taken to far greater lengths then he intended.

So I guess I believe the general public is pretty easy to manipulate, and tend to mobilize to a very scary degree at the drop of a hat.

Believing that, I also believe some particularly savvy writers know this, exploit the shit out of it, and we're all forced to deal with the fallout forever.

cdtm
Why things like the Weinstein scandal happened, and why I'm not convinced the fallout will end well:

Power corrupts.

Absolute power corrupts, absolutely.

Success = power.

Success and power is glorified.

Everyone chases after success.

Good man achieves success. Good man becomes powerful. Good man becomes corrupted.

Constant abuse of power leads to lawsuits.

Sexual allegations bring the powerful down.

Sexual lawsuits/allegations become a source of power.

Power is coveted. People chase power. Power corrupts.



Right now, I choose to believe every single allegation, and side with the victims. But I am also certain if a mere allegation proves successful in destroying careers, and there is no check on this power, it WILL be abused. it WILL be used as a weapon, and there WILL be an industry of blackmail built up over time based around false accusations.

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