Rogue

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GordonSkywalker
All right, so which version of Rogue do you all like the best? The comics version/versions or the role as played by Anna Paquin in both films? List your reasons why and try to stay on topic. cool

telepath_mutant
I like Anna Paquin better, because, you get to actually hear her voice and all. I mean, don't get me wrong, the cartoon & comics are great..I just think the movie ones are better.

Nightcrawler
Comics. i dunno, Anna isn't Rogueish enuf fer me. i mean she doesn't even act like Rogue in the comics and i like comic-rogues personality way better!

Darth Vicious
comics all the way, while i really liked Anna Paquins Rogue the comic version is much more powerful and has more personality

Nightcrawler
Ya she was great in the movie but she just wasn't Rogue ya know?

GordonSkywalker
Perhaps not but I am in love with Anna Paquin so I must choose her.

Nightcrawler
hehe sounds reasonable. however im not in love wit her im in love wit nightys Tail! ^_^

GordonSkywalker
Uh huh.

Evy_O
Definately the comics. I hate the way Rogue is portrayed in the movies.

Corran
Comics, from when I used to read the comics Rogue was a much better character, on the plus side wolverine is more intense in the movies than in the comics.

GordonSkywalker
I like Anna Paquin as Rogue.

Evy_O
I like her too, it's the way the director made her act like... I don't know. Rogue is more powerful and determined.
I don't like Anna Paquin's teeth...

GordonSkywalker
Anna Paquin is beautiful and most convincing as Rogue.

Augeybana
Hell yeah GS.

GTOPAR

GTOPAR
I am used to seeing Rogue flying so to see her not flying in the movie was really disappointing to me. In the movie's she did nothing but just stand around. Come on Iceman did more than that and so did Pyro too.

verauko
Well... yeah Rogue's role was really TINY in X2!
And EvyO... what you don't like in Anna's teeth? The little gap ("gap"? am I right?)

chica16
i think anna's rogue is too weak haha

Mitsubishi
Anna's not really built, she has tiny bosoms and her jaw is too squared.

verauko
OMG! Now you just knocked me down! tiny bosoms?! too squared jaw?! wha...?!
I could say... hell with her appearance! Also Jean is not red as in the comic! Besides a good actor is, when his character seems realistic and natural to us.
Aha... I love the moment when Rogue touches Pyro to stop him. And I have a question... In the comic, cartoon Rogue can touch a mutant only for a while and use his powers, but in the movie I've noticed that she had to touch John all the time to put out the fire. Isn't it wierd, huh?

Metroplex
Maybe she just wanted to neutralize him and knock him out for a bit.

Marvelgeek

Kes
7th sence? You mean 6th sence right?
Cool theory but why would that make her stronger?

Marvelgeek

Marvelgeek

Kes
Ah ok. Got it.big grin
You can use the EDIT button on the post to correct the spelling.

Metroplex
Isnt balance part of hearing??? To get proper balance, their must be some fluids inside your ear(I think in the cochlea) so if you cant hear, than you wont have that much balance. Ex: Right after you go through a rollercoaster, you have poor balance because of the fluids in you ear is displaced.

Kes
Yeh your hearing ,seeing and balance are connected.

X-WOMen
Didn't Rogue touch Jean sometime and kept her telepathic powers forever and then thats how she can kinda "fly"?

Kes
Everybody says it was from absorbing Ms.Marvels powers. That Ms.Marvels personality even comes up and turns Rogue kinda crazy.

Metroplex
In the Age Of Apocalypse saga, Rogue drains the power of Polaris instead of Mrs. Marvel. Its pretty cool since she can contrl metals like Magneto her husband.

Kes
Thats very confusing.

X-WOMen
I agree. confused

verauko
How could Magneto be her husband?

Metroplex
ok ill explain the Age of Apocalypse story hehehhe(nothing better to do)

First it all starts when Xavier's son wakes uo from a long coma. He is very powerful and crazy, but he also loves his father and supports his dream of a peaceful exiestance. So Legion,(Xavier's son) comes up wth an idea. He will travel back in time to kill Magneto because he believes that withouth Magneto, Xavier would be able to fullfill his dreams. Legion goes back in time, but accidently brings Storm, Iceman, Bishop and Psylock with him. They travel about 20 years into the past. In this period, Xavier is still Magneto's friend. The 4 X-mem tries to stop Legion from killing Magneto, but they get their ass kicked. In the end, when Legion is about to kill Magneto, Xavier jumps in the way and is killed by Legion. Because Xavier died 20 years in the past, then he could never have created the X-men. Time unravels and is changed forever. Magneto, who is shocked with his friends death, tries to fullfill Xavier's dream and gave up his mutant superiority idea.

Without the X-men to appose Apocalypse, Apocalypse creates an army and takes over te world. Magneto sees that he will soon fail to fullfill Xavier's goals, then create a new version of the X-men. Of course when the X-men is finally created, Apocalypse have scorched the entire world and is creating a genocidal purge of humans. The human population is almost to a brink of disspaerance.

Now 20 years later. Bishop emerges. He survived his fight with Legion and is the only one who has any memory of an alternate timeline. He goes to Magneto and shows him of the alternate reality. Magneto wants to change history so he decides to believe in bishop. He sends his X-men across the world to obtain somethings: Nightcrawler has to get Destiny, a mutant who can see the future, Gambit and the X-ternals has to go to space and get the M,Krann crystal etc etc. They eventually fix time and everything goes back to normal. With lots of X-men causlties.

Its a very interesting story. Lots of changes too Ex: Cyclops is a bad guy and has only one eye. Beast is a genticist that experiments on humans. Wolverine has one hand(the other hand was blown uo by cyclops. Rogue is married to Magneto and have a child together etc etc

verauko
WOW! I'm shocked! But thet everything will be okay and Rogue will be with GaMBIT....?

verauko
then*

Metroplex
In the age of Apocalypse saga, Rogue was originally with Gambit, but then went for Magneto. Gambit got pissed and fromed his own band of mutants team called the X-ternals.

verauko
OMG, it's completely twisted!!! Like in a horrible nightmare!

Kes
Yeh this X-men thing has been around for so long that the storie gets all twisted messed

verauko
and what's happenning next? is Rogue going to be with Gambit, or she'll still be with Magneto?

X-WOMen
Rogue with Magneto?...thats just sick They better not do that.

Morph
I say they start over from scratch. Replace Professor X with Patrick Duffy, and have the "U-Mansion" somewhere in Idaho, not New York. The first X-Men should be Fish Boy, a boy who likes to eat fish. Girl Who Goes to School, a young girl in the 7th Grade. Rachel Dratch, a woman with a manificant bosom, and Nick Nolte, a creepy old drunk.....I AM ABOVE THE LAW!

G.P
Patrick Duffy ??????
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/images/moresmilies/crazy.gif http://www.killermovies.com/forums/images/moresmilies/scared.gif no

Being above the law doesn't allow you to do that !! wink

Smllfry247
you

Morph
.....I AM ABOVE THE LAW!

Metroplex
Rogue has a child with MAgento and named it Charles in memory of Xavier. This reality ends when Bishop goes back in time and stops Legion from killing Xavier. So none of this really happened.

Metroplex
Rogue ends up with Magento and they have a child togeteher named Charles in memory of Xavier. None of this actually happened since Bishop managed to go back in time again, and stop Legion from killing Xavier.


In the regular comic series, Rogue has some feelings for Magneto. When Magneto got his memory wiped out, Rogue tried to rehabilitate him and tried to make him a better man. She also have numerous lenghty arguments with him over his goals and did spark a love interest in him a while ago.

verauko
AND WHAT WITH GAMBIT?!?!?!?! Tell me some romance stories with Rogue and GAMBIT!!! AH! big grin

Metroplex
Well first they were together but Rogue's powers kept getting in the way of their relationship and during the Legion Quest, when all hopes were lost, she finally kissed Gambit absorbing his powers and memory. Gambit goes in a coma and Rogue becomes frightened of Gambits past that she ran away. Iceman agreed to come with her. When Gambit was in a coa, Physlock went into his mind ad she saw his past but did not tell him. Later Gambit track's down Rogue and she tells him that she no longer remebers anything from his past. They get together again. Then Rogue, Bishop, Joseph(aka Magneto when he lost his memory and joined the X-men) Beast, Trish, and Gambit is teleprted to other space to fight the Phalanx who took over the Shi ar empire. after saving the Shi ar empire, they try to return to earth, but they crash and are found by Gambit's bounty hunters. Gambit freely gives himself up to the bounty hunters since he is guilty of his past and Rogue is intent on finding him. They find him in Joseph's former base and there is a trial. Rogue then absorbs Gambits powers and memories again and she sees his past. After battling the forces that held them there, Rogue leaves Gambit to rot in the antartica. Later Gambit rejoined the X-men and they are now back together.

DemonicGambit
Still sad....

But I say Rogue never really wanted to be with Mag in AOA, only cause what made Gambit leave was the fact that he thought she chose Mag over him. They were fighting and since Mag was injured Rogue rescued him first, and Gambit saw that as her way of saying I love Mag not you, sorry.

So afterwards he left, and another reason she ended up with Mags was because Gambit asked Mags to help him find a way for Rogue to touch, but Mags double crossed him. Mags found a way for himself to touch Rogue.



God I hated AoA...

At least they are making up for it now in Xtreme, but I heard on another forum that they are thinking of KILLING ROGUE!!!!

X-WOMen
That whole thing with Magneto...now I get it. That's how she got that white strip of hair huh? I knew it was from him but now i know how.

That thing DemonicGambit was saying about killing Rogue better not be true!!

tokyo_goddess
I always thought that Rogue and Magneto would be a good fight/rematch...not necesarily a couple...messed no

DemonicGambit
Yes, Rogue looked up to Mags and that's why they had a romantic interest in each other. But when he attacked Gambit she saw Mags for what he is.

tokyo_goddess
Okay... I know what the problem is smart...I'm thinking of Ian McKellan and Anna Paquin in the sack!...sick...Dear god! my sick mind...of course I can see comic Rogue and Magneto!

DemonicGambit
EWWWWW!!!!

Ian and Anna, that's just wrong on so many, many levels.

tokyo_goddess
That's why I couldn't imagine 'Rogue' and 'Magneto'!!!I can see now!!!

DemonicGambit
lol

yeah, and then Rogue had something going on with Joseph. Mags clone, Joe was several years younger then Mags though.

tokyo_goddess
huh I thought Joe was just the new Magneto with no memories of his past...

DemonicGambit
Really I thought he was supposed to be a clone, then he sacraficed his life for the x-men or something...? I'll check

DemonicGambit
Yep he's a clone:

In the meantime, Joseph investigated his past when he sought out the Acolytes, and actually assumed the role of Magneto to protect them from Humanity's Last Stand. However, he denied them when he discovered that they were planning on attacking humans again. However, when Magneto resurfaced as an independent entity, Joseph's entire identity was called into question, and he joined Sabra on a quest for answers. While in Israel, he was approached by Astra II, a villainess who revealed that she had created "Joseph" from Magneto's cells. She had hoped to use him to destroy and replace Magneto, but although Joseph was more powerful, he had failed to kill Magneto once Astra left him on his own. During that battle, Magneto hit his clone in the head with a rock, leading to his amnesia

Here's the site: http://24.191.192.76:8000/joseph.html

tokyo_goddess
I read about him being Joe only cause he lost his memories..as if this was a new persona for him...off of one of these forums...I guess I mistook it and it was only a hypothesis!

DemonicGambit
Ah don't worry about it, I constantly have to read up on character bio's or I'll confuse it with fanfiction

tokyo_goddess
I only get confused if I've read the fanfiction first, liked it and then read what really happens...

DemonicGambit
I know that feeling, then I had to read what really happened over and over again, just to get it straight

BOPRecruit 16
what years or issues of x-men comics and spin-offs have joseph in them? i love reading fanfiction with rogue/joseph and rogue/gambit.

tokyo_goddess
I wouldn't be able to tell you anything. no expression...I'm lost when it comes to character appearences...

DemonicGambit
Um, they first show Joe at the end of Legion series.

macbot
toad had his own team

DemonicGambit
He did? I don't remember that, when did that happen?

tokyo_goddess
See...I'm lost again!...

DemonicGambit
lol

poor Tokyo goddess (don't worry I'm somewhat lost too)

Kes
Back on topic please.

DemonicGambit
....um, what was the topic. I sorta forgot.... stick out tongue

macbot

Kes
Rogue is the topic.

DemonicGambit
okay....

I think that Rogue should break up with Bobby. Meet Gambit, sparks fly, they go on mission. She absords Ms. Marvel. Goes through mental battle, Gambit touches her so he can go into her psyhe and helps her take control of her body again!!

In one of the X-Movies. hehe, maybe portions of X3

Kes
roll eyes (sarcastic)

tokyo_goddess
Well to bad, she dumps Bobby...flings with Gambit and in the end has Magneto's kid...life's a b**** ain't it? :P

DemonicGambit
NO! don't say that Mag's kid, sick eww sick you just gave me bad visual's!!!!! I was talking about the movie.... sick sick sick sick

X-WOMen
These thoughts are freaky!! Change the subject PLEASE!! What the f**k? no sick

DemonicGambit
I agree. So how do you guys feel knowing that Claremont decided that Rogue's name is Marie D'Ancanto?

Better subject X-Women?

tokyo_goddess
The first name sounds southern enough...the last name needs tweaking.

X-WOMen
lol. Yes. Very. Thanks and I don't know. Do you know what's Mystique's real name is cause I don't and I wanna know is it the same or not.

DemonicGambit
Mystique's real name is Raven Darkholme.

I agree when I hear D'Ancanto, I think Italian. But he also said that in the comic the X-Men aren't going to know it yet.

tokyo_goddess
That name seems to suit her...the fact that she has a kid with Sabertooth is scary to..am I frightening you all with the origin's...of people...tee hee...yeah...that last name does sound Italian...

I just thought...if Marie had a german last name...would Magneto hate her just cause...him being a member of the Hollocaust and all? huh

DemonicGambit
No I don't think so...I mean he did work with Mystique, and I think she was German or something, at least her son is. {Kurt}

tokyo_goddess
Mystique abandoned him whilst on a mission, coincidentily in a german area...so it's really hard to keep track of his real origin.

DemonicGambit
Yeah, but he was raised in Germany so wouldn't he be German, or are you going by where he was born?

tokyo_goddess
not necessarily...I'd say the origin of your birth members makes you what you are, then the area you were raised in. Yeah he's German...just not 'German German'...blood wise.


But if Nightkralwer had kids...his kids would be german, cause he was german...but...then...NEXT!

DemonicGambit
LOL!!!

Okay...let me see... Oh I heard a rumor that they are thinking of killing off Rogue in the next couple of Xtreme Xmen issues

X-WOMen
Yeah, I remember you saying that...is it really true??

tokyo_goddess
dude...no way...I ened facts in front of my face before I believe that! hmph

DemonicGambit
Like I said that was just a rumor I heard. I hope not, and I don't think so, I mean a lot of people like Rogue. They wouldn't do something that dumb unless it was so a reason, and she came back to life like everyone else

tokyo_goddess
yeah, she'll probably come back to life...*relieves sigh*

DemonicGambit
Yep they all do, I mean look at comic Jean and Scott

tokyo_goddess
Do I have to?..

DemonicGambit
lol its okay no one will force you too!

tokyo_goddess
stick out tongue *WIPES AWAY SWEAT* For a minute there I thought I'd have to endure unimaginable torture for the sake of others! wink

DemonicGambit
don't worry we're not that cruel...i don't think

But I seriously don't think they would kill Rogue. I mean she's too popular especially right now with the movies and everthing

tokyo_goddess
You don't know...they may do something drastic just to see the reaction from the viewers...maybe they'll expect a good reaction and we'll cling to the movie more watching who else will die.

Kes
How moany times have the X-men died and come back to life? roll eyes (sarcastic) lol

tokyo_goddess
I know..in the comics...but look for people who've never been into X-men, seeign Jean die...they're more attached and want to know what happens...but WE know what really happened when she died...she rised again and became the Pheonix...this kind of reaction maybe what the movie company wants...more viewers...but killing the people..really killing the characters...that'll decrease the numbers of viewers, namely people like us who are attached to the comics.

Kes
embarrasment I've never read a comic embarrasment
But I know what you mean wink

tokyo_goddess
Neither have I...except Origin, but that's about it.

verauko
Here's a pick, when Rogue covers Gambit to protect him, with her own body... and dies... but somehow she returns to life.

Sorry if the pick is too big sad

Kes
How dramatic! lol

X-WOMen
That's amazing.... blink

tokyo_goddess
OMG that's frickin awesome! big grin

For some reason, the whole picture doesn't show up. sad

DemonicGambit
I god when I bought that issue I freaked. But Rogue and Gambit didn't actually die, they just came really really close. Especially Gambit, Rogue had to go to the astral plane and drag him back from the gates to heaven

verauko
Well, they don't die, Gambit was almost "in heaven" big grin but Rogue came after him, took his hand and bring him back... It was a little bit wierd, because they were in som place which reminded something between the real world and the hereafter..... spooky big grinbig grinbig grin lol

tokyo_goddess
Can someone e-mail me the Gambit/Rogue picture!? Cause it still won't show up all the way! huh

verauko
How is it possible?

verauko
If you mean this pick of Rogue and Gambit which I pasted..... It won't show entirely, when I was attaching it, I lost connection with the internet..... but the most important part you can see still big grin

X-WOMen
Which comic was that pic in anyways? It's really good!

tokyo_goddess
*whimpers*

Blopster
"Which comic was that pic in anyways? It's really good!"

X-Treme X-Men #18, I believe. I know it occurs in the Khan Invasion story, which occurs in X-Treme X-Men #12-19. Since I'm new (thereby, can't post links), you can goto UncannyXmen.net and goto Cerebro Files->SpotlightOn and hit Rogue's spotlight and you'll find a smaller version of that pic on Page 7.

X-WOMen
Wow. That answered all my questions!

Thanks Blobster. big grin

verauko
and here's another pic from this comic big grin

Kes
Nice wink

verauko
very romantic!!!!!!!!!!! big grinbig grinbig grin and that's why I love it big grin

buffymitch
In almost every thread i see that Rogue absorbs Ms. Marvels powers. I also read that after rogue absorbs her powers her personality changes and tht she can fly. Can anyone tell me who Ms. marvel is?? Thanx

CyclopS-Club
I've never seen that name although I've been collecting X-Men comics more than a year.

Paola
Miss Marvel is Carol Danvers

X-WOMen
WOW... eek!

verauko
this pic is cool!!!!!!!!!!! big grin

buffymitch
Sorry but i don't know who Carol Denvers is. can you please tell me??
I like rogue a lot. that's why i'm so interested

Kes
Its Ms. Marvel.
The mutante rogue stills the powers that give her the ability to fly and make her strong.

buffymitch
And what about her personality. They say that rogue's personality also changes.

Kes
Yeh she absorbs the Ms.Marvels personality and at some point Ms. Marvels personality takes over.

buffymitch
Ooh now i get it. Thanx2

ms.alvers
yahhh rogue vs. pheonix she won yea. cool

Kes
Welcome wink

savaged
yep that comic was pethetic for the x-men they just got made like fools by Vargas

Paola
This was taken from Rogue Unlimited: http://www.rogueunlimited.com/index.htm

Hope you find it interesting big grin

When Rogue was first created, she was meant to be a mutant in her early to mid-forties! According to Claremont, she just got younger and younger as time went on. Once, when her Carol Danvers persona was dominant, Rogue touched Psylocke skin to skin without absorbing her psyche and powers! But if Carol Danvers knew the secret of controlling Rogue's power, it was lost forever when the two were separated by the Siege Perilous and Carol Danvers died. Once, when Rogue retreated to the furthest depths of her subconscious, she found ghosts of all the people whose powers and memories she'd ever absorbed, sort of a residual psychic energy of each individual. Among them were Juggernaut, almost all of the X-Men, Thing, Spiral, Northstar and even Thor and Captain America!



Note: Chris Claremont is the creator of Rogue and Gambit

Kes
Cool!

verauko
Look what I've noticed!
This actress is Elisabeth Shue... doesn't she look like Rogue?!

X-WOMen
YES!! YES SHE DOES!! eek!

Kes
Dont like elisabeth shue either messed

carapheonix
okay to answer earlier question ..."how does rouge have de powers" or was it why...or who from..or...nvm ...ne wayz rouge was with mystique right? well mystique was taking a jet or somethin and Ms. Marvel stepped in to fight them off .. and den mystique tells rouge to keep hol;din on to MM and rouge does she ends up getting the powers permanetly (( Excuse my spelling... me suck at spelling )) so does dat answer yer question who ever said it? ....cause i just confuzzled myself...again.... blink

carapheonix
...okay...wrong board ...me tink ...oppsie...hehehe sry

buffymitch
She might look like rogue in the picture but she's not rogue. I believe rouge was a X-kid and elizabeth shue is not a kid.

CaptainInsano
Who gives a damn Rouge is one of the shittiest X-men!

Kes
CaptainInsano if you dont like Rogue then I suggest you stay away from threads that have Rogue as the tittle!

CaptainInsano
HAHAHAHA NEVER! devil

Kes
Funny.

CaptainInsano
thank you

Kes
Sorry buffymitch couldnt have 2 Rogue threads so I merged yours with the old thread.

Paola
so you're closing the other one Kes?

Kes
No I merged (joined) them.

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