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There are examples of Wolverine taken down by things like this

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/37200/759465-758717_logan12jz_super.jpg

And surviving things like this

http://www.comicmultiverse.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/wolverine.png

So my question is, given a one minute time limit (Wolverine's not defending himself, he's just standing there), using only speed and strength, could Superman beat Wolverine past the point where, when the beating stopped, he could regenarate, could he actually kill him?

I was going to phrase the question differently (ask who posters thought could do it/no time limit), but settled on Superman because, well, its Superman. If Wolvie can survive this beating that answers my overall question and then some.

I'd say NO. Didn't Wolverine survive being EATIN by the Hulk?
I've never seen or heard of Supes breaking anything down to it's atomic level, so I doubt Supes could kill him permanently.

But then I guess throwing him into the sun could count...

He can't. Even WWH knew it'd be impossible and he'd break Clark worse than Bane did Bats.

Using his high feats? I doubt it. He's come back from a skeleton as your scan shows, so even if he removed all organic matter (brain, lungs heart etc), based on that scan, he's growing it all back.

Yes, potentially. He'd destroy him on the molecular level.

I don't see Superman doing that despite having the ability

Using just speed and strength? No HV etc?

I can't see him breaking adamantium, for example. Maybe he could hear the bones up by friction, cooking Wolvys bones?

Cooking?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Using his high feats? I doubt it. He's come back from a skeleton as your scan shows, so even if he removed all organic matter (brain, lungs heart etc), based on that scan, he's growing it all back.

From the scan I would say he still has the brain.

Superman could rip him apart, legs, arms head, you don't even really need to break much for this. Then throw the pieces into space and I don't think that Logas HF would keep his head very long alive without the rest of the body.

Originally posted by riv6672
Cooking?

Yeah.

His bones are covered in adamantium, and is the source of his HF, IIRC.

Friction produces heat, and his bones are covered in a conductive material. He doesn't have to break adamantium to affect the bone marrow within.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
From the scan I would say he still has the brain.

Superman could rip him apart, legs, arms head, you don't even really need to break much for this. Then throw the pieces into space and I don't think that Logas HF would keep his head very long alive without the rest of the body.

Thats not what i'm asking for though. Beat to death, not, essentially, BFRing him.
Though that would be a neat trick, your idea.

Logan's skeleton is interconnected. Prof, you filthy infidel. I'm going to torture you in Sin's dungeon (if mistress allows it).

Does he have adamantium ligaments as well? I know that's how Ultimate Wolvy got ripped in half.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah.

His bones are covered in adamantium, and is the source of his HF, IIRC.

Friction produces heat, and his bones are covered in a conductive material. He doesn't have to break adamantium to affect the bone marrow within.
By punching.
I'll let others give or take credence from that scenario.

Not complaining. Just trying to keep the topic where i intended it to go, scenario wise.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Using just speed and strength? No HV etc?

I can't see him breaking adamantium, for example. Maybe he could hear the bones up by friction, cooking Wolvys bones?

He was strong enough to pressurize normal stone to become diamond. I'd assume he can do similar to Ada...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Logan's skeleton is interconnected. Prof, you filthy infidel. I'm going to torture you in Sin's dungeon (if mistress allows it).

And there I though we had something special... you lied to me, with every inch in your mouth... cry

You know btw that I am a huge Logan AND Spierman fan? xD

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah.

His bones are covered in adamantium, and is the source of his HF, IIRC.

Friction produces heat, and his bones are covered in a conductive material. He doesn't have to break adamantium to affect the bone marrow within. pretty sure that adamantium is resistant to heat. Especially since Logan has survived briefly being next to the sun. Isn't that why there was specifically a special process required to liquefy adamantium?

Guess the answer's no.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He can't. Even WWH knew it'd be impossible and he'd break Clark worse than Bane did Bats.

According to a certain friend of yours on a certain anime thread, the various everybody who keeps breaking a super metal the fighting rings composed of should be as impressive as busting adamantium.

So by that logic, Superman broke ineritron (The stuff they line Validus's cell with, which gives it one more feat then said anime hardest metal in the multiverse what keeps breaking like shale), so we should say he could break adamantium.

I mean, you wouldn't want to insult your buddies intelligence and inadvertently call him full of shit, would you? http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/redface.gif

I think the title should be renamed to WHO can physically beat Wolverine to death. Because without outside resources it's sort of his hax ability to survive just about anythin, h2h. If Supes had some amps, sure, maybe.

Edit: not complaining about the title, I just think it's a loaded question.

The big question would seem to be-

Does Superman get access to "a rock"?

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/55/106459748_05beb410f5_b.jpg

If only it were that easy...letting my bias show a little.

Originally posted by meep-meep
I think the title should be renamed to WHO can physically beat Wolverine to death. Because without outside resources it's sort of his hax ability to survive just about anythin, h2h. If Supes had some amps, sure, maybe.

Edit: not complaining about the title, I just think it's a loaded question.
Making it that general a question would have gotten me nothing i was looking for in an answer.

Wait when did Logan survive in the sun? Da Fuq

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Wait when did Logan survive in the sun? Da Fuq New X-Men #148 (October 2003)

"Physically" beating down Logan is always gonna b a temporary cure. Even if he is ground into paste, as long as any of his dna survives in-tact, he's back.

I guess, theoretically, the Atom or Ant-Man can diminish in size, until they r able to locate and destroy EVERY dna strand, one to one. Because, regardless of most power levels, some dna will probably survive. I guess that still counts as accomplishing it "physically".

I know Superman has shown a large range of powers over the years and possibly the ability to sprout new ones.
With his speed and sight, Superman could, arguably, sort out and isolate every single cell and dna strand in Logans body and destroy it, until there r none left.

Best I got.

Originally posted by deathslash
New X-Men #148 (October 2003)
Jean saved him. He was otherwise dead.

Originally posted by riv6672
Making it that general a question would have gotten me nothing i was looking for in an answer.

No worries. I think Supes probably has the best attributes to do it. I get where you're coming from. With amps yeah, it seems not much he can't do. Average Supes, no way.

Originally posted by Horrificus
I guess, theoretically, the Atom or Ant-Man can diminish in size, until they r able to locate and destroy EVERY dna strand, one to one. Because, regardless of most power levels, some dna will probably survive. I guess that still counts as accomplishing it "physically".That wouldn't work at all. Destroying his cell nuclei one by one like that would certainly be too slow to overcome his healing factor. The intact cells would produce new cells at a MUCH faster rate than the Atom could destroy them. There are approximately 100 trillion cells (1E14) in a human body: if it took only 1 second for the Atom to destroy the DNA in a single cell it would take him 3 million years to destroy all the DNA in Logan's body assuming his cellular regeneration was somehow magically frozen in place. But even a normal human could reproduce new cells (and their DNA content) waaaaay faster than that.

Besides, the DNA is just a storage of genetic information. Logan's healing factor has already "been built" according to those instructions: what's already there doesn't require DNA to exist. Thus, if the Atom were to destroy the DNA in Logan's cell nucleus the healing factor would just repair that cell super-fast along with its DNA. Or consume the dead cell and generate a new one in its place, depending on the extent of damage to the cell.

Originally posted by meep-meep
No worries. I think Supes probably has the best attributes to do it. I get where you're coming from. With amps yeah, it seems not much he can't do. Average Supes, no way.
Good deal, thanks

Weird people don't bring up that shit more often.

Superman > adamantium.