Fin Fang Foom vs. Godzilla (Marvel)

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StiltmanFTW
http://i.imgur.com/DSfcapV.jpg

vs.

https://longboxgraveyard.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/essential-godzilla.jpg

leonidas
marvel's godzilla probably loses. composite kills ff without issue. idw wins as well.

riv6672
Marvel Godzilla's got this.

SHIELD, The Champions, The FF, The Avengers...Godzilla's pretty much walked through them.
More impressively than FFF ever has in similar circumstances.

Also thats a great pic of FFF!

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3687872-gz+vs+champions+%233+%283%29.png

https://13thdimension.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/godzilla23a-24.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111191676/4115374-gz+vs+avengers+%2323-%2324+%285%29.png

leonidas
that scene is...not impressive at all. he took on the champions too, and herc alone overpowered him. the whole time they were all holding back. and if you look at the scans what did he deal with--im's repulsors? torch's basic flame blast and some general shield weapons.

fff has easily done that, and also been compared to jormungand. in his marvel series, godzilla wasn't very impressive. in fact, he was sort of disappointing compared to movies and other iterations. i could go ahead and low ball marvel godzilla, but i won't. ff is also a genius that can shape shift. strength and durability are about equal, breath is about equal, but fff can fly and even has laser eyes. he's basically a smart godzilla who can fly and has slightly more weapon options with the ability to shift shape. can't really see godzilla winning more than 3/10 against fff. other versions win 10/10, some almost spitefully.

cdtm
Red Ronin.

I understand he's been used against FFF. He almost killed Godzilla. How does he nornally do against Fin Fang Foom?

ShadowFyre
Godzilla stalemated Thor and Herc toppled him over, he didn't overpower him.Godzilla also one shot savge hulk. Godzilla's got this. FFF has a horrible track record.

tkitna
Didnt Iron Man alone beat FFF? Godzilla should have this.

riv6672
Originally posted by leonidas
that scene is...not impressive at all. he took on the champions too, and herc alone overpowered him. the whole time they were all holding back. and if you look at the scans what did he deal with--im's repulsors? torch's basic flame blast and some general shield weapons.

fff has easily done that, and also been compared to jormungand. in his marvel series, godzilla wasn't very impressive. in fact, he was sort of disappointing compared to movies and other iterations. i could go ahead and low ball marvel godzilla, but i won't. ff is also a genius that can shape shift. strength and durability are about equal, breath is about equal, but fff can fly and even has laser eyes. he's basically a smart godzilla who can fly and has slightly more weapon options with the ability to shift shape. can't really see godzilla winning more than 3/10 against fff. other versions win 10/10, some almost spitefully.

ShadowFyre summed it up for me.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Godzilla stalemated Thor and Herc toppled him over, he didn't overpower him.Godzilla also one shot savge hulk. Godzilla's got this. FFF has a horrible track record.

Originally posted by tkitna
Didnt Iron Man alone beat FFF? Godzilla should have this.

Even worse...

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/iron-man-and-captain-marvel-vs-fin-fang-foom-2.png

...Carol is not doing this to Godzilla.

Then there's the sheer size difference.
MU Godzilla was depicted at skyscraper level.

https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/hulk_v2_079_09b.jpg

carver9
Fing is win this.

zopzop
Check out Godzilla's respect thread here . Scroll down to the Marvel section. IMHO, this is more impressive than anything FFF has done. Godzilla ftw.

riv6672
Originally posted by zopzop
Check out Godzilla's respect thread here . Scroll down to the Marvel section. IMHO, this is more impressive than anything FFF has done. Godzilla ftw.
Well obviously, -i- agree with you, so thanks for the link. Didnt know about this thread.

SamZED
That's current SJW Cap Marvel. She can one-shot either one of the Lizards.

leonidas
Originally posted by zopzop
Check out Godzilla's respect thread here . Scroll down to the Marvel section. IMHO, this is more impressive than anything FFF has done. Godzilla ftw.

huh? what exactly did he do...? confused

and at whoever said herc didn't 'overpower' him not sure what you've looked at...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3687870-gz+vs+champions+%233+%281%29.png

gz tried to stomp. herc caught his foot, stopped him, and sent him toppling. lol that is the definition of overpowering. matching thor at a skyscraper is also not a real gauge. thor couldn't use his full strength, obviously, or the building would be crushed.

again, fff changes sizes.

aside from the usual kmc low balling, which full capacity ignores, i still haven't seen anything from marvel godzilla that fff can't match. as i knew i wouldn't. green scar would kill this version of godzilla too and fff has been shown to be WELL above ironman with far better armor. he def suffers from having been made into a comical character in some of his appearances. in his more serious appearances he easily matches this version of godzilla and has a load of abilities godzilla can't match. respect threads are out there that show all of this. /shrug

riv6672
Fair enough, you're interpreting things differently and/or ignoring what you dont like.
I'm totes done here. Zop's free to keep trying if he likes.

GO GO GODZILLA

deathslash
Originally posted by leonidas
huh? what exactly did he do...? confused

and at whoever said herc didn't 'overpower' him not sure what you've looked at...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3687870-gz+vs+champions+%233+%281%29.png

gz tried to stomp. herc caught his foot, stopped him, and sent him toppling. lol that is the definition of overpowering. matching thor at a skyscraper is also not a real gauge. thor couldn't use his full strength, obviously, or the building would be crushed.

again, fff changes sizes.

aside from the usual kmc low balling, which full capacity ignores, i still haven't seen anything from marvel godzilla that fff can't match. as i knew i wouldn't. green scar would kill this version of godzilla too and fff has been shown to be WELL above ironman with far better armor. he def suffers from having been made into a comical character in some of his appearances. in his more serious appearances he easily matches this version of godzilla and has a load of abilities godzilla can't match. respect threads are out there that show all of this. /shrug huh how do you know that Godzilla was trying to stomp? The comic even implied that he didn't know he was going to step on Angel.

Also, how exactly is Herc throwing him bad for Godzilla? Herc dealt with Godzilla's weight, but that doesn't mean that he overpowered him.

leonidas
Originally posted by riv6672
Fair enough, you're interpreting things differently and/or ignoring what you dont like.
I'm totes done here. Zop's free to keep trying if he likes.

GO GO GODZILLA

lol ignoring what exactly....? a couple low showings that are in huge contrast to his higher ones? thumb up

zop can try to. it isn't about trying though, it's a simple case of facts. relatively, their best feats are nearly identical and fff has powers gz doesn't. and I'M one of the biggest gz fans on the site.

i don't think this is too hard. /shrug

StiltmanFTW
Foom:

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/5bly63/respect_fin_fang_foom_marvel_616/

Zilla:

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/4uj9nq/respect_godzilla_marvel/

CosmicComet
Originally posted by riv6672
ShadowFyre summed it up for me.





Even worse...

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/iron-man-and-captain-marvel-vs-fin-fang-foom-2.png

...Carol is not doing this to Godzilla.

Then there's the sheer size difference.
MU Godzilla was depicted at skyscraper level.

https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/hulk_v2_079_09b.jpg

Fings size changes often. He can be Godzilla sized.

leonidas
Originally posted by deathslash
huh how do you know that Godzilla was trying to stomp? The comic even implied that he didn't know he was going to step on Angel.

Also, how exactly is Herc throwing him bad for Godzilla? Herc dealt with Godzilla's weight, but that doesn't mean that he overpowered him.

actually it flat out says the stomp has an undetermined intent, but given that he just swatted angel from the air, it seems a reasonable conclusion he was gonna finish the job. /shrug

regardless, gz was pushing DOWN with all his weight (even if it was unintentional he was stepping normally with all his weight, like anyone does), herc caught his foot and pushed upward with sufficient force to knock him down. not really sure how that is anything but overpowering, but.... /shrug

leonidas
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Foom:

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/5bly63/respect_fin_fang_foom_marvel_616/

Zilla:

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/4uj9nq/respect_godzilla_marvel/

not sure how anyone can look at both threads and see any sort of noticeable difference. /shrug

to me greater range of powers+flight make up the difference between them.

Bentley
I agree with Leo. I love Godzilla but his showings in the Marvel series were mediocre at best. Fing Fang Foom has jobbed worse though, assuming he's at the top of his abilities it should be his fight to lose.

cdtm
Originally posted by Bentley
I agree with Leo. I love Godzilla but his showings in the Marvel series were mediocre at best. Fing Fang Foom has jobbed worse though, assuming he's at the top of his abilities it should be his fight to lose.

Godzilla's showings:

1. A helicarrier survived his nuclear blast without a scratch.

2. When shrunk down, devil dinosaur gave him a good fight. And he's just a red dinosaur.

3. An obvious "King Kong" clone nearly killed her.

4.. Red Ronin, a giant mecha piloted by a 10 year kid, killed King Kong and had Godzilla on the ropes (The kid was protective towards Godzilla and doing his level best to avoid killing her. No love for Kong though. laughing out loud )

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by cdtm
And he's just a red dinosaur.

Bentley will rip out your spine.

CosmicComet
Godzilla is a male.

cdtm
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Godzilla is a male.

Godzilla has a son.

StiltmanFTW
Godzilla's "tail" is... a dick?

leonidas
Originally posted by cdtm
Godzilla's showings:

1. A helicarrier survived his nuclear blast without a scratch.

2. When shrunk down, devil dinosaur gave him a good fight. And he's just a red dinosaur.

3. An obvious "King Kong" clone nearly killed her.

4.. Red Ronin, a giant mecha piloted by a 10 year kid, killed King Kong and had Godzilla on the ropes (The kid was protective towards Godzilla and doing his level best to avoid killing her. No love for Kong though. laughing out loud )

lol

i told myself since i loved gz i wasn't gonna low ball....that red ronin fight was...not good for him though. and there were other less than stellar showings. thumb up

CosmicComet
Originally posted by cdtm
Godzilla has a son.

Which he found and adopted.

Godzilla is not only a male, he is a great dad.

DarkSaint85
Lol just because Godzilla has a kid,doesn't determine his sex.

Unless you worded it wrong, and you meant Godzilla gave birth to a kid.

cdtm
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol just because Godzilla has a kid,doesn't determine his sex.

Unless you worded it wrong, and you meant Godzilla gave birth to a kid.

What, there's a Kaiju adaption clinic? stick out tongue

Where else would baby Godzilla come from, if big Godzilla didn't give birth to him?

StiltmanFTW
Ask your wife.

https://i.giphy.com/media/cF7QqO5DYdft6/giphy.webp

ShadowFyre
Find lows are still worse than Godzilla's imo

cdtm
Originally posted by leonidas
lol

i told myself since i loved gz i wasn't gonna low ball....that red ronin fight was...not good for him though. and there were other less than stellar showings. thumb up


Hated the little tweep. Like Amadeus Cho hate, because they're practically the same Gary Stu, with the same monster fetish.

CosmicComet
Originally posted by cdtm
What, there's a Kaiju adaption clinic? stick out tongue

Where else would baby Godzilla come from, if big Godzilla didn't give birth to him?

Godzilla found an egg. It happened to be of his species.

He raised it.

cdtm
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Godzilla found an egg. It happened to be of his species.

He raised it.

I know, but afaik there is no others of his species. There's been other Godzilla's, but never walking around at the same time. Only one that egg could have come from, is Godzilla.

CosmicComet
Except it did not come from him.

Already stated. He found it. You are thinking too hard.

cdtm
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Except it did not come from him.

Already stated. He found it. You are thinking too hard.

How do we know he didn't lay it and just forget about it? stick out tongue

But even if the narration makes it explicit that there's no way that egg was laid by that monster, that just means we don't know Godzilla's gender, as apparently this is one of those unanswered questions that even Haruo Nakajima had no idea about.

CosmicComet
Godzilla has a demonstrated a great memory, so no.

We do know Godzilla's gender because directors have consistently referred to him as nothing but male for every decade that he has existed. Haruo Nakajima was just the suit actor for several Godzilla movies starting from the first, a great man but not an authority. I've posted a link before debunking this myth using toho's own words as a source, I'll have to dig it up once more.

That 1998 Godzilla movie confused people, because that one could reproduce asexually. But 1) that one was not a godzilla, it was retconned into something else because everyone hated it, and 2) that thing was still explicitly a male. It was said to be a male with an unusual ability. Probably because of the radiation. Remember that it was just a giant irradiated male marine iguana.

This isn't some big mystery. Tumblr probably wants you to think it is, but it isn't.

Bentley
Originally posted by cdtm

2. When shrunk down, devil dinosaur gave him a good fight. And he's just a red dinosaur.

Devil has some feats that place him beyond regular dinosaur level, he has durability showings that would kill any actual animal of his size.

leonidas
lol devil has some coolness. i wouldn't place this version of godzilla beyond high meta tbh, at least in general. when i used a composite version--MUCH more powerful than this marvel version--it was agreed that he was low herald. and of course digi beat me with he-man in one of the most epic-est bz's of all time.... stupid he-man... sneer

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