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Who wins

Downgraded Wolverine still cuts her in half.

Diana's piercing durability is piss-poor. And Logan has sliced through nigh-invulnerable characters with no effort.

Sure, if BFR is on, she could remove Wolverine from the battlefield. Just as he could end her in a single swipe. So, using their best striking feats, whoever hits first takes this.

And considering that speed is equalized, Logan tags her first, as he's more skilled.

Wolverine has fought with top skill guys and Class 100 metas before and come out victorious.

Diana is a good fighter for a herald chick, but let's not pretend she's anything like Cassandra, Shiva... or even Huntress.

He doesn't need to target her head - he can gut her, sever her spine, cut the limbs off, carve out her heart... sounds to me like you haven't really read up on the character.

Logan easily kills her.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Downgraded Wolverine still cuts her in half.

This

Gojeta, you are for some reason unquotable.

If you like the sun throw idea, though, and don't mind slightly out of character Dianas and Logans, you should love what these comic fans produced here ...

(Surprisingly professional work, I must say!)


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aR0pREAUzaQ

(4:13 -- 9:02)

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Who wins


Answer depends on what year you're taking Wolverine from, what year you're taking Diana from, whether these 2 are in character, and what you have in mind for the arena.

If current Diana, i.e. "Rebirth" Diana, gonna go with Wolverine.
As I said before on another thread, I wouldn't give current Wonder Woman odds over Spider-Man, and I wasn't really joking.

If Nu52Diana, fight is probably more even. Nu52Diana can pull weapons from her bracelets to neutralize or reverse the striking distance advantage Wolverine might otherwise have with his claws.


However, when most people put Wonder Woman in a thread on this forum, they're generally referring to post-Crisis On Infinite Earths Diana, from about 1999 - 2009. I'd give Diana reasonably solid odds in that case, and, if we're actually using her as she was IN 2009, say she takes the overwhelming majority.

Worth noting the contradictory nature of retcons.

In World War Hulk versus X-Men, circa 2005 or thereabouts, Wolverine tells Hulk he's harder to cut than he was before, but Wolvie targets his eyes, and still manages to draw blood from Hulk elsewhere:

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This is probably the most direct contradiction of actual comicbook story history possible. In point of fact, the very FIRST time Wolverine went against the Hulk, Wolverine found his adamantium claws so ineffective that he decided to go after ANOTHER opponent who COULD be hurt, and largely leave Hulk alone:

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Source: Hulk #181, Volume 1
Year: 1974

Another question is whether or not just any old strike from Wolverine will do.
Assuming Wonder Woman does not have Hulk181 resistance to Wolverine's claws, but merely Rogue's ...


Well, Mephisto #3, Mephisto versus X-Men, suggests Wolverine's strikes have to be very en pointe indeed:



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Why do you compare her piercing durability to Rogue's? Diana is not even bulletproof:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/2532/3010717-2542104-1802637_wonder_woman_vs_bullet_super.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Why do you compare her piercing durability to Rogue's? Diana is not even bulletproof:




In 1999, where that selection of Devastation shooting Diana comes from, you're right, she is NOT, then, bulletproof.

However 9 years later, there is a REALLY strong case to be made that Diana has quietly been upgraded to bulletproof. She expresses utter disbelief when arrows manage to wound her, which was no surprise at all to Diana past her teen years in the 1990s

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... and summarily survives a sandwiching collision that has a serpent god's spear-like fangs shatter against her as the two smack into a train:


https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/36666253_image.jpg


I have little reason to believe Rogue would fare as well as that, let alone better.

Rebirth says hi.

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Rebirth says hi.



I covered that in my 2nd post, Stilt.
I am well aware of the difference in durability between those 2 Dianas:


Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Answer depends on what year you're taking Wolverine from, what year you're taking Diana from, whether these 2 are in character, and what you have in mind for the arena.

If current Diana, i.e. "Rebirth" Diana, gonna go with Wolverine.
As I said before on another thread, I wouldn't give current Wonder Woman odds over Spider-Man, and I wasn't really joking.

If Nu52Diana, fight is probably more even. Nu52Diana can pull weapons from her bracelets to neutralize or reverse the striking distance advantage Wolverine might otherwise have with his claws.


However, when most people put Wonder Woman in a thread on this forum, they're generally referring to post-Crisis On Infinite Earths Diana, from about 1999 - 2009. I'd give Diana reasonably solid odds in that case, and, if we're actually using her as she was IN 2009, say she takes the overwhelming majority.

It's worthwhile asking what people think Diana's going to be doing all this while, too. It's not as if she's without any offensive options. Even Spider-Man, who has only a fraction of Diana's strength, is proof of that. Note how much time is gained even from a slam to the ground for him:


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Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I covered that in my 2nd post, Stilt.
I am well aware of the difference in durability between those 2 Dianas:

My fault, being in a hurry.

Anyway, full capacity rule means he won't be holding back like he did against Rogue. That glancing strike was intentional.

His claws have penetrated through Thanos (who was using the Power Gem at the time), Terminus (who has no-sold Thor's physical and energy attacks), Gladiator, omnium steel (several times, it's vastly superior to titanium), Hulk's skull...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

His claws have penetrated through Thanos (who was using the Power Gem at the time), Terminus (who has no-sold Thor's physical and energy attacks), Gladiator, omnium steel (several times, it's vastly superior to titanium), Hulk's skull...

1st: PIS
2nd: Who?
5th: Not impressed. Hulk was vulnerable even to bullets during the World War Hulk storyline.

3rd: Won't lie. A piercing showing against Gladiator would be well worth considering. Scans or it didn't happen, though.

4th: Scans or that never happened, either.

I came in here wanting to hear all the ways WW would slaughter Logan. But good arguments are being made for both sides.

Those were special adamantium bullets in WWH, developed to combat the Hulk.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Those were special adamantium bullets in WWH, developed to combat the Hulk.....



Yes.



And I'm still not impressed.



Gladiator would convince me Logan's actually got a shot even at 2009 Diana, though. Glads is pretty d*** tough ...

Wolverine's claws will pierce/slash through Diana.

That's not even a question...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/115379/2542613-an_11.jpg

He could have killed Gladiator with a blow to the head.

I know she has the piercing thing, but is she not still a Class 100 who can fly, etc.?

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
1st: PIS

"I don't like it, it didn't happen"

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
2nd: Who?

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/terminus.htm

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
5th: Not impressed. Hulk was vulnerable even to bullets during the World War Hulk storyline.

Pure adamantium bullets...

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
3rd: Won't lie. A piercing showing against Gladiator would be well worth considering. Scans or it didn't happen, though.

http://s3d4.turboimg.net/sp/7352685c8d8f253e1d159cc772662d8f/an-11.jpg

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
4th: Scans or that never happened, either.

http://i.imgur.com/AUSj493.png

http://www.retro-daze.org/images/postImages/1493591884uncannyx-men139b.jpg

http://tinyurl.com/l8t6mho

Originally posted by Surtur
I know she has the piercing thing, but is she not still a Class 100 who can fly, etc.?

Yeah, Stilt did a good job, and I can see why he thinks Logan would have a chance here now, but I'd still have to give the advantage to Diana, 'cause Logan's been manhandled by people a lot weaker than her, and those claws proved of little advantage:

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https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36666688_image.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36666690_image.jpg

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That second scan isn't even a fight and that fourth set of scans has no bearing on this fight because there isn't anything to drown Logan in during this fight.

Weapon H and Sentry are "a lot weaker" than Diana? How?

Not to mention...that's Old Man Logan.

A different character lol.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Weapon H and Sentry are "a lot weaker" than Diana? How?



You overlook the 1st four scans, which show Spider-Man and Tiger Shark, Stilt?
Wanna argue those two even combined are anywhere near Diana's strength level?

You overlook this sentence?



Useless scans.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
You overlook the 1st four scans, which show Spider-Man and Tiger Shark, Stilt?
Wanna argue those two even combined are anywhere near Diana's strength level? you ignore that 1/4 of those scans isn't even a fight. Since when has getting knocked out of a window been an example of how a character loses. Not only that, but we can use Logan's high end feats just like you used only Diana's high end feats.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
You overlook the 1st four scans, which show Spider-Man and Tiger Shark, Stilt?
Wanna argue those two even combined are anywhere near Diana's strength level?

I don't. I was planning to respond to those when I got back to my computer. Quoting from mobile sucks.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36666684_image.jpg

Post what happened on the next page.

Once Logan realized he can't break out of the webbing via sheer strength (and waiting for it to dissolve would be too time-consuming), he used his claws and got free in moments... even though he had to hurt himself in the process.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
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Logan returned to the tower and was completely fine, not even mad about the incident. He has no problem shrugging off high falls and continuing to fight as if nothing happened, I can provide scans if you wish.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
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Ah, terrible showing for Wolverine's claws. He did break free from that coral reef eventually, though. And got his revenge on TS.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
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Old Man Logan, who heals slower than his 616 counterpart and admitted that he's not even half the man he was, stood no chance against the character having all of his powers and all of Hulk's super-strength. Not to mention the drowning scenario, which we do not have here.

For what it's worth, he's done better in the rematch, but I can't see how that is relevant at all.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36666691_image.jpg

While Sentry did beat Logan here, it's important to note the fight took place just after he's been KO'd during the failed decapitation attempt by guys using powered battlesuits and adamantium buzzsaw.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
You overlook the 1st four scans, which show Spider-Man and Tiger Shark, Stilt?
Wanna argue those two even combined are anywhere near Diana's strength level?

Sentry is physically in the same class as Exitar.


Exitar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4th Celestial Host

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Rebirth says hi.

Wow. That Wonder Woman is embarrassingly weak. They should just stop writing the character. That would be better than this garbage.