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ROTS rematch Mace Windu vs Sidious

just Mace Windu vs Sidious
no b-team
no anakin

flat level ground

canon feats only

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does vaapad and shatterpoint carry the day or unlimited power!

Canon feats means no shatterpoint or vappad lol.

In a rematch, Mace would know what to expect and get into his "canon anger amp" mindset earlier.

Sheev would also know not to toy to with Windu and would try to blitz him from the beginning or overwhelm him with the force. Assuming this is sabers only, he'd have a tough time circumventing Mace's "amp".

I'd honestly say this is a stalemate. Environmental factors determine the victor in a saber fight, but in anything else Sheev will just resort to his force powers when he can't break through.

Canon? Sidious wins

Mace is an 8, Sidious is a 9.

"He's better than Yoda in a way because he has the extra power of the dark side," Gillard explains. "His character is so shrouded that his fighting style should be shrouded as well. The Emperor is deadly dangerous."

Yeah, if he's "better in ways" to Yoda, he's defs better than Mace.

Originally posted by Kurk
Canon feats means no shatterpoint or vappad lol.

In a rematch, Mace would know what to expect and get into his "canon anger amp" mindset earlier.

Sheev would also know not to toy to with Windu and would try to blitz him from the beginning or overwhelm him with the force. Assuming this is sabers only, he'd have a tough time circumventing Mace's "amp".

I'd honestly say this is a stalemate. Environmental factors determine the victor in a saber fight, but in anything else Sheev will just resort to his force powers when he can't break through. Actually, the novelizations are canon when they're not directly contradicted by the films. Vaapad and Shatterpoint appear in the ROTS novel, and nothing in the film contradicts their existence or role in the fight, so they're canon.

I don't think that's what they meant.

Regardless, in the novelisation, it's clearly stated that even Vaapad couldn't resist Sheev's lightning attack.

Sidous wins easy, Palpatine took a dive in the film its abundantly clear to anyone paying attention

Originally posted by darthbane77
Actually, the novelizations are canon when they're not directly contradicted by the films. Vaapad and Shatterpoint appear in the ROTS novel, and nothing in the film contradicts their existence or role in the fight, so they're canon. IIRC, they are canon where they align with the movie, so everything that isn't shown on-screen is non-canon.

Sidious should be able to pierce his force defence and crush him.

Sidious is a 19 and Mace an 17. Sidious wins.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Sidious is a 19 and Mace an 17. Sidious wins.

Based off what?

Originally posted by Ursumeles
IIRC, they are canon where they align with the movie, so everything that isn't shown on-screen is non-canon.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-6173819


Nah, Pablo's exact words were to me were "in cases of contradiction, defer to the movie" the meaning should be pretty clear. For example, Fisto being decapitated by Sidious is non-canon because he wasn't decapitated in the film, but the existence of Windu's Vaapad amp and use of Shatterpoint, while not explicitly shown in the movie, aren't contradicted either. So we can assume they're as canon as anything else in NuCanon.