Why dont we ban alcohol?

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Blindside12
It kills 88,000 people a year.

https://goo.gl/oMs3EL

Kurk
IKR; what's all this talk about an opioid crisis? Alcohol kills far more.


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Robtard
Originally posted by Blindside12
It kills 88,000 people a year.

https://goo.gl/oMs3EL

Alcohol is far more regulated than guns. Since that's ultimately your silly angle.

/thread

Blindside12
Originally posted by Robtard
Alcohol is far more regulated than guns. Since that's ultimately your silly angle.

/thread

Actually its not /thread and this thread had nothing to do wth guns, idiot.

It just had to do with why dont we ban alcohal as a public heath emergency, why dont read the fcking link?

"The deadlier drug crises that we don’t consider public health emergencies
Alcohol and tobacco kill far more people than opioids. Should they be considered an “epidemic”?"

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Robtard
Alcohol is far more regulated than guns. Since that's ultimately your silly angle.

/thread

but what about OP's fee-fees? probably didn't even factor that into your argument, did you?

Blindside12
look whos stalking.

The Lost
Originally posted by Blindside12
Actually its not /thread and this thread had nothing to do wth guns, idiot.

It just had to do with why dont we ban alcohal as a public heath emergency, why dont read the fcking link?

"The deadlier drug crises that we don’t consider public health emergencies
Alcohol and tobacco kill far more people than opioids. Should they be considered an “epidemic”?"

Robtard didn't misunderstand your link. He is question your intention.

Emperordmb
I say lower the drinking age to 18 and decriminalize it's possession and use for minors.

Blindside12
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I say lower the drinking age to 18 and decriminalize it's possession and use for minors.

Yea but its killing more people then opiods, you dont need a prescription, so why are opiods and public health emergency then alcohol?

NotXYZsock
Banning alcohol creates more problems than regulating it. A ban on alcohol would mean bathtub manjulas and hooch and all kinds of nasty shit.
Not worth it.

jaden101
Doesn't booze in the US legally have to be radioactive. I'm sure I read that somewhere.

NotXYZsock
Originally posted by jaden101
Doesn't booze in the US legally have to be radioactive. I'm sure I read that somewhere. That's why they put worms in it.

Nephthys
Almost everyone drinks alcohol. You might as well try and ban driving. Both of which are more strictly regulated and controlled than guns by the way.

Silent Master
Odd, for something more strictly regulated, I can go buy alcohol far easier than I can a gun.

NotXYZsock
Is this thread about guns?

Surtur
When do they ban hammers?

https://i.imgur.com/ki3WAMf.jpg

Emperordmb
Originally posted by Silent Master
Odd, for something more strictly regulated, I can go buy alcohol far easier than I can a gun.
Maybe he's talking about the drinking age being 21, which isn't even a statute i agree with.

Nephthys
Bingo bongo.

Robtard
Age of 21, cutoffs in most (if not every state) on the times alcohol can be sold, most scenarios require a seller to have an alcohol distribution license, there are fewer open carry booze states than open carry gun states(iirc) etc.

Kurk
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I say lower the drinking age to 18 and decriminalize it's possession and use for minors. Why don't we raise the adult age to 21 in this country as kids are entering "adulthood" slower than they used to:

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/21/opinion/sunday/the-case-for-delayed-adulthood.html
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/02/adulthood-delayed-what-has-the-recession-done-to-millennials/252913/

Originally posted by Nephthys
Almost everyone drinks alcohol. You might as well try and ban driving. Both of which are more strictly regulated and controlled than guns by the way.
So "because everyone does it" is your argument? Pathetic. Why does everyone do it is a better question. Does your proposition to ban guns in the states apply to people in Wyoming where 62%+ of households own one; where "everyone does it"?

jaden101
Originally posted by Surtur
When do they ban hammers?

https://i.imgur.com/ki3WAMf.jpg

Did someone say BANHAMMER

Surtur
http://i.imgur.com/UFaRx.gif

jaden101
Originally posted by Surtur
http://i.imgur.com/UFaRx.gif

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Blindside12
This isn't a gun vs alcohol thread. Please don't turn it into that.

NotXYZsock
Here is a tip for everyone: Do not read Robtard's posts. You just get stupider.

Robtard
HYG

https://i.imgur.com/5MtzCXo.png

Nephthys
Originally posted by Kurk
So "because everyone does it" is your argument? Pathetic. Why does everyone do it is a better question. Does your proposition to ban guns in the states apply to people in Wyoming where 62%+ of households own one; where "everyone does it"?

I wasn't aware I was in an argument, lol. I was saying why it isn't banned. You guys already tried it and it didn't work. And it wouldn't ever work because everyone drinks alcohol. People have been drinking alcohol for thousands of years and they will for thousands more. Alcohol is mankinds friend.

Would you abandon a friend?

Kurk
Originally posted by Nephthys
I wasn't aware I was in an argument, lol. I was saying why it isn't banned. You guys already tried it and it didn't work. And it wouldn't ever work because everyone drinks alcohol. People have been drinking alcohol for thousands of years and they will for thousands more. Alcohol is mankinds friend.

Would you abandon a friend? I've never touched alcohol in my life and don't ever plan to. Staying in control is invaluable to me. (Fun fact Trump is a teetotaler too). I understand that people traditionally have consumed alcohol for the "warm, fuzzy" feelings it brings about, but can you really justify the damage it does? Just like guns, alcohol requires a level of self-discipline, control, and good judgement to be used without harming innocent parties. When people lose that self-discipline it becomes detrimental to the individual and those around them. Drinking culture had devolved to where binge-drinking, getting wasted, etc is the encouraged, acceptable norm. Hell yeah! Right?

And to lead off to another tangent just for sh1ts and giggles...

Alcohol is the #1 rape drug!!

and I know how strongly you feel about women being taken advantage of. Perhaps bans on alcohol will help alleviate that issue. What do you say? My guns for your devastating drug.

Nephthys
Originally posted by Kurk
I've never touched alcohol in my life and don't ever plan to. Staying in control is invaluable to me. (Fun fact Trump is a teetotaler too). I understand that people traditionally have consumed alcohol for the "warm, fuzzy" feelings it brings about, but can you really justify the damage it does? Just like guns, alcohol requires a level of self-discipline, control, and good judgement to be used without harming innocent parties. When people lose that self-discipline it becomes detrimental to the individual and those around them. Drinking culture had devolved to where binge-drinking, getting wasted, etc is the encouraged, acceptable norm. Hell yeah! Right?

And to lead off to another tangent just for sh1ts and giggles...

Alcohol is the #1 rape drug!!

and I know how strongly you feel about women being taken advantage of. Perhaps bans on alcohol will help alleviate that issue. What do you say? My guns for your devastating drug.

Nah.

Flyattractor
Nephy dosen't care when women get raped.

Women's rights mean NOTHING to him.

Because He is Sexist.

Nephy is Pro Men....to put it lightly....

NotXYZsock
You know a lot of women willingly get drunk and act stupid so men **** em.

Flyattractor
I for one say Lets bring Prohabition back.

Make Drinking more fun.

SpeakEasy's and Moonshiners.

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NotXYZsock
How can you ban alcohol? You can put yeast, sugar and water in an airtight container and brew alcohol.

Flyattractor
The Left is trying to ban sugar.

Get with the program dude.

NotXYZsock
I can still use honey.

Flyattractor
Only if those bee's vote democrat.

riv6672
Originally posted by Blindside12
It kills 88,000 people a year.

https://goo.gl/oMs3EL

Same reason we keep using cars.



Someone somewhere decided the profit was worth the loss of life.

samhain
To begin with, booze culture and drinking culture are two very different things. To argue that it should be banned because some people take it to an excess they're not capable of handling and it becomes harmful to them is like saying we should ban french fries because of heart disease. I get what you're saying but it's just not going to happen in our lifetime, it's far too profitable, and not just for the alcohol industry either. How much money does an average local or city council make from fines due to alcohol related crimes or infringements? Hospitals would be less packed of a weekend but they'd make less money (not an issue here in Blighty while the NHS is still just about kicking) and if hospitals make less money then they'll charge more for their regular services. Drinking culture keeps this country going TBH, it'll never end.

dadudemon
Great thread idea.


This is important. How do we reduce alcohol related deaths? Prohibition, as I posted about recently, does not work at all. It fails horribly. But how do you greatly reduce those deaths?


The problem is improper use of alcohol or improper actions due to alcohol. So how do you target that problem? The "PSA"s don't work....or do they? Anyone know?

I do know that self-driving cars will greatly impact alcohol related deaths. So there's that.


Anyone else have ideas?

Surtur
This is why we don''t ban booze:

http://historyonfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/al-capone-1.png

Emperordmb
Originally posted by dadudemon
Great thread idea.


This is important. How do we reduce alcohol related deaths? Prohibition, as I posted about recently, does not work at all. It fails horribly. But how do you greatly reduce those deaths?


The problem is improper use of alcohol or improper actions due to alcohol. So how do you target that problem? The "PSA"s don't work....or do they? Anyone know?

I do know that self-driving cars will greatly impact alcohol related deaths. So there's that.


Anyone else have ideas?
Legalize weed.

SquallX
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Legalize weed.

I not happen. The cigarettes company would lose to much money, and by proxy, all those Senators the cigarettes company gives money to.

lazybones
Originally posted by dadudemon


The problem is improper use of alcohol or improper actions due to alcohol. So how do you target that problem? The "PSA"s don't work....or do they? Anyone know?

I do know that self-driving cars will greatly impact alcohol related deaths. So there's that.


Anyone else have ideas? Raising alcohol tax? A study here looks into a possibility of a 25% increase and mentions other studies suggesting a doubling of the rates, which would still leave America with a low rate by international standards.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3794433/

Perhaps hypothecate the additional revenues to mental health services and PSAs. Or simply refunnel them in a way that eases the regressivity of the tax (tax offsets elsewhere).

Blindside12
Originally posted by SquallX
I not happen. The cigarettes company would lose to much money, and by proxy, all those Senators the cigarettes company gives money to.

Phillip Morris has pledged to stop making cigarettes and move into smokeless tobacco, the tobacco industry might be losing their grip on weed.

NotXYZsock
Originally posted by SquallX
I not happen. The cigarettes company would lose to much money, and by proxy, all those Senators the cigarettes company gives money to. That's high incentive to legalise weed.

ares834
Originally posted by Blindside12
It kills 88,000 people a year.

https://goo.gl/oMs3EL

Because it didn't work the first time.

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Flyattractor
Originally posted by SquallX
I not happen. The cigarettes company would lose to much money, and by proxy, all those Senators the cigarettes company gives money to.

Smoking Ciggs makes people happy. I don't understand why those Mean Leftists have to put such a Hate Rag on them.

Mean old Fascist Leftists trying to take stuff away from people that makes em happy.



smokin'

NotXYZsock
Has FlyAttractor just gone full retard?

Kurk
He's always on full retard mode

NotXYZsock
He just seems more full retard than normal

Bashar Teg
you sure you wanna alienate one of your 3 friends here, xyz?

Putinbot1
Wtf, Rightists calling Fly a retard, does not compute beep boop.

Raptor22
Obesity and obesity related illnesses kill far more people than alcohol. Why don't we ban junk food? Or tax the hell out of it like cigs and whack people $10 for a big Mac?

Surtur
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Legalize weed.

Legalize it and I will advertise it.

dadudemon
Originally posted by lazybones
Raising alcohol tax? A study here looks into a possibility of a 25% increase and mentions other studies suggesting a doubling of the rates, which would still leave America with a low rate by international standards.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3794433/

Perhaps hypothecate the additional revenues to mental health services and PSAs. Or simply refunnel them in a way that eases the regressivity of the tax (tax offsets elsewhere).


Sounds like a damn good idea. If the research is there, why not?


Portugal is a good example of how to stop drug related deaths:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/22/opinion/sunday/portugal-drug-decriminalization.html

Do some of the lessons learned in Portugal apply to the US?



But, yes, "health clinics" dedicated to helping people sober up are an effective solution. It works damn well. Funnel that money to healthcare. Treat drug addictions as health problems and not criminal problems (because they are health problems).

If conservatives really wanted to save lives, they'd end the war on drugs and implement universal healthcare.

NotXYZsock
Idk if it's really that simple dadudemon...

Emperordmb
Originally posted by Blindside12
It kills 88,000 people a year.
WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING

Kurk

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