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Who is the better inventor?

Shuri.

Stark. Shuri had the advantage of having generations of Wakandan scientists already developing their technology and helping her out. Plus a lot of her inventions were dependent on vibranium.

Stark created his first suit w/ scrap materials in a cave while held captive.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
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Who is the better inventor?

Stark. The IM suit is arguably more advanced than T'Challa's.

Hard to say. They're both brilliant. I guess I would say Stark. The arc reactor could legitimately change the world and solve the energy crisis in one fell swoop if he wanted it to.

The arc reactor alone should make Stark win this by default IMO. He's also leagues more resourceful and his inventor stem solely from him whereas Shuri did have groundwork before her to go off of.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Hard to say. They're both brilliant. I guess I would say Stark. The arc reactor could legitimately change the world and solve the energy crisis in one fell swoop if he wanted it to.

Also Stark's suits have AI whereas BP's don't.

JARVIS and FRIDAY are both above any modern computer AI.

Well, problem with Shuri is that we can't really know how far she'd go without vibranium being the miracle deus ex metal that it is.

I'd say Stark. But if she did all this without the use of vibranium, I'd actually give the edge her in many areas (such as: shield tech, healing and telecommunication).

But, as it is, Stark.

Imagine what Stark could do with an unlimited supply of vibranium along with wakanda's longtime knowledge/experience in its use combined with Pym particles.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Well, problem with Shuri is that we can't really know how far she'd go without vibranium being the miracle deus ex metal that it is.

I'd say Stark. But if she did all this without the use of vibranium, I'd actually give the edge her in many areas (such as: shield tech, healing and telecommunication).

But, as it is, Stark.

Imagine what Stark could do with an unlimited supply of vibranium along with wakanda's longtime knowledge/experience in its use combined with Pym particles.

Shuri is more like a general Scientist. She doesnt only develops weapons but also applies her knowledge in medicine and other fields.

Shuri is very smart besides pretty. But as many claim, her knowledge comes from her ancestors and vibranium's multiroles.

Stark on the other hand is 100% responsible of his acts. Stark developed the Iron Man suit which is the most advanced weapon in earth. He created AIs which reassemble human inteligence. The Hulkbuster armor, a behemoth when compared to his other models.

Other feats like creating the Helicarriers and participating im the creation of many of SHIELD's tech.

You also have him creating a new element which makes him basically a genus.

Shuri just doesnt have enough featd to counter that.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Imagine what Stark could do with an unlimited supply of vibranium along with wakanda's longtime knowledge/experience in its use combined with Pym particles.

A zany suit-building montage?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Stark. Shuri had the advantage of having generations of Wakandan scientists already developing their technology and helping her out. Plus a lot of her inventions were dependent on vibranium.

Stark created his first suit w/ scrap materials in a cave while held captive.

This. Stark is hands down the better inventor, over all intelligence is up in the air IMO.

Shuri.

Stark didn't create the arc reactor, his company did. he made a smaller version of it which is impressive enough but the blueprints on how to do it were already done in the larger version, you cant say Shuri stood on the shoulders of her predecessors and give Tony this feat at the same time.

He created the Iron Man suit which is a fancy piece of tech granted but Wakanda is arguably more advanced than Tonys tech.

Also if youre trying to downplay shuris accomplishments with the argument that its all because of the vibranium then you'd have to take away tonys wealth on the other side because he arguably wouldn't have accomplished half of his invention without unlimited cash either.

Take both characters with all their advantages and shuri comes out ahead because Wakandas general tech is on par with if not more advanced than tonys suit as a comparison

If we were to drop Shuri and Tony in a massive junkyard, with no equipment whatsoever, and told them they had 1 week to build a robot to fight against each other - I'm pretty sure Tony would easily win that.

Originally posted by relentless1
Shuri.

Stark didn't create the arc reactor, his company did. he made a smaller version of it which is impressive enough but the blueprints on how to do it were already done in the larger version, you cant say Shuri stood on the shoulders of her predecessors and give Tony this feat at the same time.

He created the Iron Man suit which is a fancy piece of tech granted but Wakanda is arguably more advanced than Tonys tech.

Also if youre trying to downplay shuris accomplishments with the argument that its all because of the vibranium then you'd have to take away tonys wealth on the other side because he arguably wouldn't have accomplished half of his invention without unlimited cash either.

Take both characters with all their advantages and shuri comes out ahead because Wakandas general tech is on par with if not more advanced than tonys suit as a comparison

If Shuri only wins because she has better resources, then how is she the better inventor?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Stark. The IM suit is arguably more advanced than T'Challa's.

The Panther suit fits into a necklace. Starks suit has more gadgets and weapons in it because its an actual suit of armor, but Shuri's design wasn't going for something like that.

The New Iron Man suit fits in his Arc Reactor. It is very possible he got the technology from Shuri.

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
The New Iron Man suit fits in his Arc Reactor. It is very possible he got the technology from Shuri. ]

I doubt that. If Shuri would have such tech, we would see black panther flying and shooting lasers from his hands and chest

Originally posted by relentless1
Also if youre trying to downplay shuris accomplishments with the argument that its all because of the vibranium then you'd have to take away tonys wealth on the other side because he arguably wouldn't have accomplished half of his invention without unlimited cash either.

Ehhh, Shuri has practically unlimited cash too.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Ehhh, Shuri has practically unlimited cash too.

Yeah, arguably Tony does too.

Tony's suits defy the laws of physics lol. Given how/from where we've seen the armour pop out, collapse, fold, how it forms around him etc. there is absolutely no way it could hold all the weapons it does while maintaining all the functionality and protection it does.

Though, TBF, it's not like Wakandan tech is particularly realistic.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Tony's suits defy the laws of physics lol. Given how/from where we've seen the armour pop out, collapse, fold, how it forms around him etc. there is absolutely no way it could hold all the weapons it does while maintaining all the functionality and protection it does.

Though, TBF, it's not like Wakandan tech is particularly realistic.


True, but they have a Deus Ex machina in vibranium to explain how their tech works, with Tony the explanation is just he's really smart.

if what ive heard is true then shuri hooks tony up with the tech to make the bleeding edge armour so id say she's better with inventions

Tony takes this.

Originally posted by relentless1
if what ive heard is true then shuri hooks tony up with the tech to make the bleeding edge armour so id say she's better with inventions

Even if that is true, no, it doesn't, considering we don't know that Tony couldn't have achieved it on his own with the same resources that she did. And no, their resources are not the same. Having money and a company that, at the time, was producing mostly conventional weaponry <<< having a country's worth of resources and plot-device materials to work with, and literally hundreds, if not thousands, of years of research etc. to fall back on.

Stark was literally able to make himself an expert in nuclear astrophysics overnight, as mentioned in the first Avengers film.

Originally posted by relentless1
if what ive heard is true then shuri hooks tony up with the tech to make the bleeding edge armour so id say she's better with inventions ]


Hmmm, I think it would be more of her assessing with her knowledge on Vibranium for the suit.

I mean, i think the suit is made of Vibranium, and clearly Shuri's the smartest person when Vibranium is concerned (Just like Banner is the smartest dude when Gamma radiation is concerned).

But i don't think the suit's actual tech would be derived from Shuri.

Well, admittedly, the suit does seem to be nano-tech (there is a close-up in the one trailer where you see his new armor forming around him), and looks to be the MCU version of Bleeding Edge.

https://static0.srcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Avengers-infinity-War-Prime-Armor.jpg?q=50&w=1000&h=500&fit=crop

But Stark might just have invented his own version of nano-tech in the interim between films. IIRC, during the one Infinity Wars behind the scenes video, the people working on the films claimed that Tony had basically been prepping for something big ever since he had that apocalyptic vision in Age of Ultron. But we'll know for sure once the film comes out.

And based on some concept art, it might have other shapeshifting abilities as well:

https://static3.cbrimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Infinity-War-Bleeding-Edge-Iron-Man-concept-art-Finalized.jpg?q=35&w=864&h=604&fit=crop

As someone else pointed out on the one site, it's actually very similar to modern incarnations of the Blue Beetle.

I'm gonna say Tony. He has been doing it a bit longer than Shuri.. Although after seeing Infinity War my mind might change

Originally posted by FrothByte
Stark. Shuri had the advantage of having generations of Wakandan scientists already developing their technology and helping her out. Plus a lot of her inventions were dependent on vibranium.

Stark created his first suit w/ scrap materials in a cave while held captive.

So doesn't Tony own after IW?

Stark, EASILY. He built his first suit from a Cave full of scraps. He also has a nano-suit that is far superior than anything Shuri has ever dreamed of.

I think its been said that Shuri is the smartest person in the MCU.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I think its been said that Shuri is the smartest person in the MCU.

Not the smartest but the one with more knowledge. Remember Wakanda is the most advanced civilization on Earth. Shuri had a hell of a better education and of-course as daughter to the king, she had unlimited knowledge and resources at her disposal.

Iron Man on the other hand, was able to built the most advanced suit on earth, and many other marvels without such knowledge. Nor with Vibranium.

Obviously Stark.

Not only are his inventions far more impressive but he built them in a less advanced society.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I think its been said that Shuri is the smartest person in the MCU. It's one thing to say or want something to be the case..it's another thing entirely to put it into action and PROVE it. Right now, Shuri hasn't done anything more impressive than Stark. In fact, Stark's tech frankly blows her stuff away. Iron Man (especially nano-suit) ain't losing to Black Panther in a fight. Also, Stark has created renewable energy, and many many other things (including both of Spider-man's tech heavy suits). He's just proven to be the smartest mind in the MCU thus far, including Shuri. She needs more feats to back up the claim, if that has even been said.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Tony's suits defy the laws of physics lol.


Thought that was Caps Shield