Magneto Vs Invisible Woman, stronger force field?

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riv6672

Philosophía
Magneto, by far.

In pure versatility, too.

abhilegend

Philosophía
Originally posted by abhilegend
How so? On average they are pretty much equal IMO. The strength or versatility part?

riv6672

abhilegend

Philosophía
Originally posted by abhilegend
Both. His shields have blocked everything from magic to reality warpers, telepathy, Phoenix 's simultaneously psychic/physical assaults, Xavier's entire Psionic power, trans-dimensional particles, minaturized neutron-stars, the energies of all the x-men simultaneously channeled through Bishop, Hercules, Thor's hammer, have stopped intangibility, have stopped Scarlet Witch's Hex etc.

He can also adjust them however he likes He can filter what passes or does not through it, at will. He can make them extra-strong or precise, depending on the situation.

She is not comparable in terms of versatility.

In terms of raw power, Sue has gotten nosebleeds from Ragnarok's lightning, struggled with Gladiator's psionic feedback (Magneto has taken Xavier's ENTIRE psionic energy in a single blast) and much more..

leonidas
thumb up it isn't even a given she can stop regular old telepathy. and mag's field is simply an extension of his far greater power set--control over the entire planet's EM field. when he grabs someone, or shapes metal, that IS his field doing those things. maybe he can't make morning stars in the air, exactly, but he could easily duplicate nearly any effect she can create while his power extends into areas she can't come close to. he's a full on, large scale energy manipulator. her scope is far more limited.

Baziemarc123
I wonder if guys like Superman can get through Mags insanely powerful shield

Philosophía
Originally posted by leonidas
thumb up it isn't even a given she can stop regular old telepathy. thumb up

My entire tourney was based on Sue desperately quick-drawing so that she doesn't get TPd'ed. Psionics aren't really her strong suit.

Originally posted by leonidas
. and mag's field is simply an extension of his far greater power set--control over the entire planet's EM field. when he grabs someone, or shapes metal, that IS his field doing those things. maybe he can't make morning stars in the air, exactly, but he could easily duplicate nearly any effect she can create while his power extends into areas she can't come close to. he's a full on, large scale energy manipulator. her scope is far more limited. thumb up

He's recently drawn power from stars/planets...
He functioned as the nervous system of the Dreaming Celestial after Sinister stole its head.
Went up against of Proteus, who was specifically outside the electromagnetic spectrum and changed his matrix.
He's jammed psionic powers close by, tampered with long-range telepathy worldwide..
Created wormholes..
etc.

leonidas
yeah, i'd say superman could, unless mags was amped, but it would require some legit effort imo. his field was capable of withstanding "a few" blows from mjolnir, so, like i said, it would take some doing for superman to just punch his way through it. imo anyway.

DarkSaint85

abhilegend

abhilegend

xJLxKing

Philosophía
Originally posted by abhilegend
The only thing that she may not be able to replicate is his showings against telepaths. Rest are fair game.

She has a few low showings, but she has a lot of more powerful showings as well.

https://m.vk.com/topic-68030988_32202684

Her able to contain gamma bomb that could kill every hero on earth including Hulk and Thor itself is better than any force field showings Magneto has. Originally posted by abhilegend
We are specifically talking about force field, right? Nice. Magneto has also shielded the Avengers from a "deadly" explosion, while weakened and with a 'thin, hastly erected' forcefield. And he didn't specifically say that he can't contain it, but had to redirect it, like Sue did:
https://imgur.com/a/1pZO1

The magnetic fields are extension of his powerset, they're not separate. Magnetic fields control are what he does, which is why you can see him adjust his shield to block photons, intangible beings, teleportation, psychic attacks, proteus , Scarlet Witch, even Polaris , Captain Universe Spiderman, nukes etc. That's, incidentally, why they're so versatile, too.

Anyway, agree to disagree.

riv6672

gauntlet o doom
Dazzler's light powers can get through Sue's shields; not through Erik's.

Supermutant
Originally posted by gauntlet o doom
Dazzler's light powers can get through Sue's shields; not through Erik's.

Ummm Monica in her light/energy has gotten thru.

http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t/23641912_3586861-3013267189-60045.jpg

abhilegend

Genii96
Magneto by far

zopzop
Originally posted by Supermutant
Ummm Monica in her light/energy has gotten thru.

http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t/23641912_3586861-3013267189-60045.jpg
Uhm Classic Captain Marvel (aka Photon) was infinitely more versatile in terms of manipulating EM energy than Dazzler. Not even close.

Supermutant
Originally posted by zopzop
Uhm Classic Captain Marvel (aka Photon) was infinitely more versatile in terms of manipulating EM energy than Dazzler. Not even close.

And Monica still is. Don't know why you think I would disagree.

krisblaze
Originally posted by zopzop
Uhm Classic Captain Marvel (aka Photon) was infinitely more versatile in terms of manipulating EM energy than Dazzler. Not even close.
While that may be the case we're not given any reason to assume that there was anything overtly complex about the type of energy she used to enter his forcefield.

It's simply an inconsistency.

abhilegend
Not to mention it's hardly unprecedented for someone to breach Magneto's shields. Iron Man did it just recently.

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not to mention it's hardly unprecedented for someone to breach Magneto's shields. Iron Man did it just recently.

with...tech though

DarkSaint85
Whereas Sue has destroyed Doom with his shields:

https://s5.postimg.org/q2usqbw87/RCO022.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/dbgmjvjw7/RCO023.jpg

She's also done well against Terrax:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/3853/840836-invisiblewoman4a.jpg

abhilegend
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
with...tech though
With repulsors. And a wooden crate.

Such technology!!!

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by abhilegend
With repulsors. And a wooden crate.

Such technology!!!

Scan?

And Mags isn't really as powerful as he was before

Parmaniac
I like that after you made a claim of something you demand proof of that from someone else.

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