namor vs uncle sam

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leonidas
confused

MrMind
uncle sam's pretty badass
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StiltmanFTW
DC sucks so much.

Namor shoves that ridiculous hat up Uncle's *******.

MrMind
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
DC sucks so much.

Namor shoves that ridiculous hat up Uncle's *******.

I don't like your tone regarding 'Merica

StiltmanFTW
But your Chinese Overlords appreciate it.

MrMind
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Delta1938
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
DC sucks so much.

Namor shoves that ridiculous hat up Uncle's *******.

Your favorite (I guess) character is a hairy Canadian midget with a bad haircut, and you're arguing for a dude with pointy ears, wings on his feet and most if his career his costume has been a speedo. You're not one to talk.

Desperate jabs at Superman in 3, 2, 1--

beatboks
Not really up on nu52 sam but pre 52 stomps pretty damn hard. If America is patriotic he's stronger, faster a shite load more durable and has a bucket load of mental powers to boot.

If America isnt patriotic Namor can at least put up a fight b4 he gets beat

Delta1938
Originally posted by beatboks
Not really up on nu52 sam but pre 52 stomps pretty damn hard. If America is patriotic he's stronger, faster a shite load more durable and has a bucket load of mental powers to boot.

If America isnt patriotic Namor can at least put up a fight b4 he gets beat

Got any feats for him? Preferably scans but I'll take just descriptions. The scans from Mind is one of the 3 noteworthy examples I've actually seen from him(other than growing gigantic helps in stopping missiles and catching).

leonidas
i didn't realize he had mental powers.... if he can beat down namor that's pretty impressive. /shrug

lawest9
When you speak of Uncle Sam I remember a character from the pre crisis area who lead a group called the 'freedom fighters' of an alternative earth from a JLA / JSA story.

Delta1938
Originally posted by lawest9
When you speak of Uncle Sam I remember a character from the pre crisis area who lead a group called the 'freedom fighters' of an alternative earth from a JLA / JSA story.

He was, Earth-X, where Nazi Germany won WWII. Those characters would end up Post-CRISIS, in some cases redone(or at least legacy members) like the Charlton(not sure if spelling right) characters (Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, Nightshade, ect).

leonidas
this guy:

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/File:Black_Adam_0014.jpg

beatboks
Originally posted by Delta1938
Got any feats for him? Preferably scans but I'll take just descriptions. The scans from Mind is one of the 3 noteworthy examples I've actually seen from him(other than growing gigantic helps in stopping missiles and catching).

I'm on hols at the moment. Just spent a week in the NSW snow fields and am in sydney for a fee days b4 heading home to the sunny gold coast on Wednesday. While I have several issues od post coie Freedom Fighters I cant for the life of me remember many feats (except him transporting the team around from his realm). So the only ones that come to mind are pre COIE from All Star Squadron (etc). Feats like his mental shield holding out Spectre, and his mental battle with Baron Blitzctrieg (Baron Blitz suddenly having mental powers for tje 2st time didnt sit well with me though).

I'll pull some issues and put up scans once I settle back in at home.

@leo his mental powers (besides force fields and force waves and dimesnional travel) were more about mentally inspiring others than direct influence. Strength durability wise he's literally all over the place because it depends on the level of belief Americans have in America.

leonidas
huh. that's good info. thumb up

how strong can he get i wonder? let's extend to both pre and post crisis. namor can approach herc/thor levels of strength so let's assume fresh from the ocean. i wonder if uncle sam can be THAT strong....?

Stoic
I'd argue that Namor is within Black Adam's weight class, and that he'd certainly be able to give as good as he gets based on his fights with, Hulk, Hyperion, Thanos, Sentry, Blue Marvel, Hercules... etc. I'm not saying that he'd win, but he's more than capable of contending with the higher echelon of Marvel 616 Earth which includes guys and gals that can match Black Adam's level of physical strength. Some have even surpassed him based on feats. Anyone thinking that he isn't in the Marvel 616 Earth top tier list in terms of strength haven't been paying attention.

If Uncle Sam far surpasses those levels then he definitely dwarves Namor.

LordofBrooklyn
Uncle Sam's highs crushes Namor.

What would be interesting is what kind of power Trump's America would supply Uncle Sam with.

zopzop
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
What would be interesting is what kind of power Trump's America would supply Uncle Sam with.
He'd be Presence level....................at least! wink

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by zopzop
He'd be Presence level....................at least! wink

Go to The GDF with that comment!

The Alex Ross series was great!

Delta1938
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Uncle Sam's highs crushes Namor.

What would be interesting is what kind of power Trump's America would supply Uncle Sam with.

Well with how divided America has become, I'd imagine he'd split into two like they had him during the Civil War. Hillary supporters would be represented by Hillary, Antifa, Stormy Daniels, and an angry trans-trans(born a woman, identifies as a man who identifies as a woman) feminist with pink hair and a degree in gender studies. Trump supporters would be represented by JSOC(Delta Force, ISA, SEAL Team 6, ect).

Stoic
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Go to The GDF with that comment!

The Alex Ross series was great!

Dynamic strength works like that. Now think of all of the characters, that have dynamic strength. shifty

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by Stoic
Dynamic strength works like that. Now think of all of the characters, that have dynamic strength. shifty


DON'T BRING YOUR GAMMITE TRASH HERE!!!!

leonidas
i still haven't actually SEEN anything that would indicate he could beat namor...

Delta1938
Originally posted by leonidas
i still haven't actually SEEN anything that would indicate he could beat namor...

I don't know if there's any context to it, but scans of him beating Spectre are on the first page. Early in too.....

-K-M-
Strong enough to throw someone to the moon

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/67602/3276623-uncle+sam+019.jpg

Delta1938
Originally posted by -K-M-
Strong enough to throw someone to the moon

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/67602/3276623-uncle+sam+019.jpg

Looks like the impact is comparable to a nuke.

-K-M-

Delta1938
Why not? Looks pretty large compared to the Moon.

-K-M-

cdtm
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
DC sucks so much.

Namor shoves that ridiculous hat up Uncle's *******.

Is that John Ostrander's?

His entire run was like Grant Morrison meets Chick Tracts.

You should see Uncle Sam's relative, The American Scream.

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Spectre_Vol_3_50

Zack M
Uncle Sam. Dude is a beast.

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