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I actually think this interesting concept for a topic. But don't really have anything to contribute. Hoping it'll get some more attention.

By logic I would assume wolverine, by feats Idk if Batman can keep up or not.

Wolverine's healing factor should remove lactic acid build up in his muscles. He wins.

jeez you people actually give serious answer to thread like this

'Thread like this'.

Haha

As opposed to all the furrowed-brow, college-degree-level debating going on in all the other threads, about 'serious' subjects?

Pfft

Batman wins an arm wrestling contest, Riv. I think it's supposed to all come down to technique in the end, isn't it? And if that's the case, then the guy who's mastered five new forms of martial arts in the time it takes to brush his teeth and comb his hair should be ahead.

Batman.

Wolverine wins this, for me.

Stronger bones, stronger muscles, shorter arms, no fatigue...and as a veteran of the army and numerous bars, I'm pretty sure he's familiar with arm wrestling techniques (not as if it's a highly skilled MA lol).

Batman uses eye-blinks to send an irresistible, subliminal Morse-code message to Wolverine's brain: "Give up. I'm Batman."

Originally posted by Mindship
Batman uses eye-blinks to send an irresistible, subliminal Morse-code message to Wolverine's brain: "Give up. I'm Batman."
That ...

All Bats has as sparring partners is his old manservant ('Good heavens, Master Bruce! You have vanquished me once more! Now it's time to go to bed and I will read a story to you') or his sons ('*Tt* you may have won this time, Father, but when I'm 12, then I'll show you!')

^^^thats just COLD...!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
All Bats has as sparring partners is his old manservant ('Good heavens, Master Bruce! You have vanquished me once more! Now it's time to go to bed and I will read a story to you') or his sons ('*Tt* you may have won this time, Father, but when I'm 12, then I'll show you!')

Best post you've ever made.

Logan.

Superhuman strength, healing factor, indestructible bones.

https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/38871954_daw01.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/38871951_daw02.jpg

^^^That guy is a sore loser...

Doesn't Wolverine have super human strength? How does Batman win?

His super strength is a by-product of his mutant healing factor. It's been stated by Claremont numerous times.

Only got better with time.

Without some strength-enhancing suit, Bruce is f*cked here.

Batman breaks Logan's arm

Originally posted by Damborgson
Could you elaborate? I think Batman is a bit stronger and more skilled. Obviously I can't find arm-wrestling skill feats, but it's a reasonable assumption to scale that he's better at it.

That, and the fact that he spends his nights working on his wrist by swinging off of buildings with what are glorified ropes.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120293/5900758-wolverine+vs+elevator.jpg

Batman has to carry his own balls as he swings.

Much better feat.

But...

http://i65.tinypic.com/xclmwz.jpg

What did Bruce do there?

Stopped a speeding car, I assume....

^

Let's assume that's what happened.

Then it's only fair to assume that Logan bracing for impact stopped that old truck car dead cold (and wrecked it):

https://i.imgur.com/YFdbB27.png

I can't quite make it out, but I'll take your word for it that he obviously used his palms to stop it in a blatant strength feat, and his adamantium body wasn't just hit full impact, trashing the car

It's obvious that adamantium played the huge part, but what kept him in place? Telekinesis? Why didn't he just get run over?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's obvious that adamantium played the huge part, but what kept him in place? Telekinesis? Why didn't he just get run over? Probably because he was halfway through the car's hood, with smoke coming off of it.

Do you by any chance have the issue number where this took place? Was he just standing on the road?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wolverine v4 #12 (2012).

The couple saw the raging Fixit on the road and drove away from him, only to hit Wolverine, who arrived there to stop Banner (and did so, off-panel) Just checked it out.

All kidding aside, it's obvious that both they and Wolverine slammed into each other by mistake, and it's really random to call this a strength feat. Unless Wolverine has something against pregnant chicks, trying to get away from a rampaging Hulk, so he just trashes their car, lol.

It's a good blunt force one, though

^^^thats both funny af AND cool!

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It was an accident, yes.

But if Logan hadn't been braced for the impact (it's a reflex thing, really), then he either would've gotten run over or sent flying in the opposite direction.

The batcable vs. car feat is just as prone to getting nitpicked, you know it.

Anyway, let's move on. It's not like those two lack other feats.

Acting as a link between two passenger train cars, all while getting wailed on by superhuman Victor Hudson:

https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/38878674_vh01.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/38878675_vh02.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/38878673_vh03.jpg Stilt, as much as I enjoy your fan-fiction of off-panel super-reflexes and bracing, Logan getting hit by a car is not suddenly a speed feat and a strength feat. If Logan saw it coming, he would have dodged. There's a pregnant lady there trying to run from the Hulk, he didn't intentionally want to get hit by the car. Not being sent flying is not proof of strength - that's not how comics work, especially when you see the front of the car folded like paper in front of him. He's a guy with an indestructible skeleton, somehow I don't think the emphasis was on him outmuscling the car there..

You don't see me say Batman getting hit by Superman, or Grundy, or Wonder Woman, and not getting sent flying to the moon, as a bracing strength feat that he performed with his Bat-reflexes, do you? It's a durability feat. Same as Logan's. I bet Batman braced his muscles really hard here against this Bazooka!
https://imgur.com/a/0w0D0
I bet Batman's legs are monstrous here, as he takes The General's fist to his face and isn't send through the building!
https://i.imgur.com/skBgqPb.jpg
Here's Batman's incredible hand strength as he blocks a blow from Superboy!
https://i.imgur.com/52ZI4Jt.jpg
And a backhand from Superman
https://i.imgur.com/5e6PxZu.jpg
Batman's neck muscles are incredible as his head isn't sent flying from Grundy's back-of-the head-punch!
https://imgur.com/gallery/iCbPO9S
His abdomen muscles can withstand hits from Zoom!
https://imgur.com/a/HPqlh
*insert scans of Batman taking numerous explosions, clark, diana, j'onn, literally every character that is worth a damn in the DCU*
You can show a dozens of these for Wolverine, too. Or plenty of other characters.
This is a stupid game. That's not how any of this works.

You don't have to post anything involving Wolverine and a car just to 'counter' Batman stopping a car from moving. I'd rather you don't, than grasp so hard here.

Switching off from that circle-talk..
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What you posted there is on-topic, although it's hard to discern how good that is, given that we don't see him succeed. A steel chain was apparently keeping them together there, so he had to replace it with his hands but...

Anyway, Batman swinging an actively resisting, flying, 600 pounds Man-Bat around on the grappler:
https://imgur.com/N557bqd

Keeps multi-ton stone from falling by grabbing it:
https://imgur.com/a/KAgfy

Resists jet engine suction by grabbing the edges
https://imgur.com/a/YIOCL

Twists the wrist of Hawkgirl:
https://imgur.com/a/QjGgN

Holds open a crocodile's mouth
https://imgur.com/a/x919e

Stuff like this.

Not that it's relevant to this thread what with the push/pull theme, but I always loved this, Batman kicking a motorcycle in half, lol:
https://imgur.com/6dqalLb

Maybe you need to post the full scene, as I really don't see that as Bats stopping the car, tbh.

Or don't bother, I'll check out myself. Issue?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Maybe you need to post the full scene, as I really don't see that as Bats stopping the car, tbh.

Or don't bother, I'll check out myself. Issue? You see the tires literally screeching with smoke coming out of them, as Batman is obviously in a pulling motion...

The next page is the woman pulling out a shotgun and shooting Batman away, allowing them to leave.

Batman & Two Face #25 (it's the 25th issue of the Batman & Robin Series from 2011)

Thanks. Some good art in that book. The Bat-Signal page in particular.

He's in a pulling motion, perhaps trying to get as close to the car as possible, while it's towing him. Slowing it down at best... you've been trying to make it into something it isn't for a while, but I'm not buying.

In no way he stopped it like Wolverine -- aka the New Blob, apparently --- did with that truck car Both feats are easy to get taken apart.



Anyway, back on actual topic. You really believe that skill will play such a big part in the arm-wrestling contest? What are Bruce's feats in that department? It's not exactly rocket science.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Thanks. Some good art in that book. The Bat-Signal page in particular.

He's in a pulling motion, perhaps trying to get as close to the car as possible, while it's towing him. It's a grappling gun. It's retractable - as you can clearly see the wire was tens of feet when he shot it, then a couple of feet when he was holding the car. He didn't need to pull to get close to the car, and that''s not the body position when you pull yourself closer either. The pulling was to hold the car still .. and the noise ... and the smoke.

Aaaanyway...

I obviously don't have 'skill feats' for arm-wrestling but I scale it up to Batman's general skill level, which I have as above Wolverine. I'd think he knows more about where to put pressure, positioning, etc. than Logan. But this is obviously subjective, as it can't be argued either way.

He'd Stallone him.

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The car was just starting, not anywhere top speed. And the motion lines behind the car windows in the fourth panel indicate it stopped? Oh, wait Then there's the lack of the "vrroom" sound effect when they left Batman.

I think HF will play a bigger part in the arm wrestling match than any marginal skill advantage.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The car was just starting, not anywhere top speed. And the motion lines behind the car windows in the fourth panel indicate it stopped? Oh, wait Then there's the lack of the "vrroom" sound effect when they left Batman.
I imagine your troll face as you're typing this. You see the "Vroom" sound effect when they accelerate, then "Skrzzzzz" when Batman stopped it, as the tires are still trying to roll, thus the smoke and Batman in a pulling position. It wasn't at top speed, but that doesn't make it less of a ridiculous feat.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I think HF will play a bigger part in the arm wrestling match than any marginal skill advantage. Batman will tell him he tapped Jean and Logan's wrist will go limp.

Bruce will probably spit in his eyeballs with anti-healing factor venom from his teeth, too.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wolverine wins this, for me.

Stronger bones, stronger muscles, shorter arms, no fatigue...and as a veteran of the army and numerous bars, I'm pretty sure he's familiar with arm wrestling techniques (not as if it's a highly skilled MA lol).

In theory, I agree.

After looking at the Tom King run, I wonder if Batman has a healing factor.

Is it even physically possible to fix a broken spine the way he did?

Wolverine easily, it's not like Batman can lift Grundy over his head with one arm or anything... is it?

Wolverine gets dogpiled and lifts like 6 grown men with one arm and tosses them presumably wit the same arm

https://imgur.com/v3X5f4v
https://imgur.com/AGEHgnE

^^^feats comparison time!

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