Mera Vs Storm

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Zack M
https://i.imgur.com/LLO5PbV.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/T1KrTDH.jpg

juggernaut74
Good fight.

zopzop
Whoever gets off their insta-KO attack first wins.

Stoic
Not sure how powerful Storm is currently. She has an Asgardian hammer like Mjolnir these days.

Supermutant
Originally posted by Stoic
Not sure how powerful Storm is currently. She has an Asgardian hammer like Mjolnir these days.

Yeah it has finally happen. Prep-man made a marvel stomps match by accident.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Stoic
Not sure how powerful Storm is currently. She has an Asgardian hammer like Mjolnir these days.

If Storm NEEDS an Asgard Crutch to win...well...

Zack M
Mera has her own weapon now. Orm's Trident!

https://i.imgur.com/hpROPfI.jpg

Sin I AM
Mera....Storm hasnt been impressive even with Stormcaster. Mera is a legit mid-herald now

Damborgson
Mera is also hotter

zopzop
Originally posted by Stoic
Not sure how powerful Storm is currently. She has an Asgardian hammer like Mjolnir these days.
If Storm is stupid enough to attempt an attack with a weapon instead of going for the insta-Kill/KO with her bio-electricity manipulating attack, Mera stomps.
Originally posted by Zack M
Mera has her own weapon now. Orm's Trident!

https://i.imgur.com/hpROPfI.jpg
The Trident adds nothing here. If anything she's screwed if she attempts to go physical with it (just like Storm).

carver9
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Mera....Storm hasnt been impressive even with Stormcaster. Mera is a legit mid-herald now

Is this all you know how to do?

Anyways, Storm wins.

-Pr-
She's not wrong. Storm's been all over the place as of late.

Storm can win, but I would bank on Mera myself.

carver9
I've been in 4 threads where she said someone isnt impressive. You're not going to get insane fts every month and for some, every other month. Just doesnt happen but what we know of the characters, Storm CAN take this.

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
I've been in 4 threads where she said someone isnt impressive. You're not going to get insane fts every month and for some, every other month. Just doesnt happen but what we know of the characters, Storm CAN take this.

I didn't say she couldn't.

She's had the hammer for a few issues now; long enough that we should have gotten at least a few decent feats by now. But like most of X-Men Gold, she's a disappointment.

Stoic
Originally posted by Damborgson
Mera is also hotter

Based on what?

Damborgson
Originally posted by Stoic
Based on what?

Based on me being attracted to red heads thumb up

laughing out loud

Damborgson
Originally posted by -Pr-
I didn't say she couldn't.

She's had the hammer for a few issues now; long enough that we should have gotten at least a few decent feats by now. But like most of X-Men Gold, she's a disappointment.

She did drop Scythian pretty well, the rest of the x-men weren't even phasing it.

Zack M
Originally posted by zopzop
If Storm is stupid enough to attempt an attack with a weapon instead of going for the insta-Kill/KO with her bio-electricity manipulating attack, Mera stomps.

The Trident adds nothing here. If anything she's screwed if she attempts to go physical with it (just like Storm).

Why wouldn't it? Orm's Trident was able to easily take down Clark and Diana.

zopzop
Originally posted by Zack M
Why wouldn't it? Orm's Trident was able to easily take down Clark and Diana.
With lightening right? Storm will just redirect it or at least fight her for control over it. Now if Mera desiccated her, Storm has no answer to that.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by carver9
Is this all you know how to do?

Anyways, Storm wins.

What has Storm done that places her on Meras level? They both have relatively the same powers but Mera has better showings. Storm has had the hammer for like 8 issues and has done nothing. Pick up a comic

StyleTime
Mera is a mid herald? What did she do?

Storm hasn't done much with Stormcaster, but it's not like she started racking up low showings or something. She just hasn't been displayed much in either direction, high or low. She's got plenty of stuff to draw from though. We're still talking about goddamn Storm here.

Same with Rachel's upgrade. Disappointing, but not low. She's basically done a bunch of shit she was already capable of doing.

Philosophía
Originally posted by StyleTime
Mera is a mid herald? What did she do? Nothing to warrant that. Sin is talking up, as usual.

She's Aquaman-ish physically, with advanced hydrokinesis.

She fought Wonder Woman h2h evenly in Blackest Night, and also as a Red Lantern vs Violet Lantern.

As far as powers-combat, her highest showing is this:
https://imgur.com/a/fI3Nm

Or this:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11121/111219076/6531517-7201087986-RCO01.jpg

She can make water-shields to tank baby nukes:
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Held up/created city-sized waves/the ocean and stuff:
https://imgur.com/a/SFe9Z
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https://imgur.com/a/AvKxi
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https://imgur.com/YrpXXs0

She's not getting into a power feat-war with Storm anytime soon, but if she leaps hard enough she could probably one-shot her https://imgur.com/wBjRW1r], and if she thinks fast enough, she could manipulate Storm's internals for the win. The same goes in return, minus the physicals.

As Zop said, it's probably a quick draw. She dehydrated Flash instantly as he was running towards her, for what it's worth, in the JL scans. There's also this:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11121/111219076/6531515-8358578902-RCO00.jpg

Sin I AM
So Mera is a low herald? High meta? Where exactly would you place her since im talking up

Stoic
Originally posted by Sin I AM
So Mera is a low herald? High meta? Where exactly would you place her since im talking up

I'd place her at mid to high meta. I mean would you really place her on par with Firelord who is a mid Herald? Getting past that, there are times that tiers don't matter much. In this case Storm may actually be a mid herald with that hammer, but she lacks any hard feats to prove it at this point. On her own without the hammer I'd place her at about Mera's level. with it she may be more than Mera can handle, especially since nothing stops her from striking from the air.

zopzop
Originally posted by Stoic
with it she may be more than Mera can handle, especially since nothing stops her from striking from the air.
Bro, Mera's made constructs that can contain mini nukes and hold Superman and Wonder Woman for a few minutes. Storm going physical is like asking for death. Mera's hydrokinesis is ranged, so Storm taking to the air won't save her.

@Philo
Fix your links! :P

-Pr-
I think that there's a very secure argument to be made that ever since Johns got a hold of her with Blackest Night, Mera has been in the low herald tier at the very least. Mid herald and high meta are both arguments you can make, sure, but I'd personally put her in LH.

Storm's asgardian powers just aren't well-defined enough for me in terms of what they're capable of.

Stoic
Originally posted by zopzop
Bro, Mera's made constructs that can contain mini nukes and hold Superman and Wonder Woman for a few minutes. Storm going physical is like asking for death. Mera's hydrokinesis is ranged, so Storm taking to the air won't save her.

@Philo
Fix your links! :P

I'm well aware of how powerful Mera is, but Storm has been bumped up a couple pegs due to that hammer. Without the hammer she has done some pretty crazy things herself. Lightning ha power over water as you know. In character neither of the two are going to kill each each other, although being fully capable of it. I don't think it would be an easy fight for either.

Scarlet315
This is a good fight! Storm had too many options. From lightning to artic blasts. She's basically a god

Supermutant
If this is w/o weapons than its the same argument as here.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t643838.html

Its not a safe assumption that Mera can use internal hydrokinesis against Storm.

Zack M
Shrugs. She used it on Flash. Isn't he protected by electricity type of energy, speed force? I think it'll work for the most part.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Sin I AM
So Mera is a low herald? High meta? Where exactly would you place her since im talking up Given some of the people in high-meta right now , there's a good argument she should be there, since they're at her level, or higher. You might find a few at the lower-end of the low-herald who can approximate her power-level, so she's somewhere between high-meta and low herald .

Originally posted by zopzop
@Philo
Fix your links! :P Tried to, but didn't work, and I was too lazy to upload the scans myself.

stick out tongue

Sin I AM
That list is outdated...but i see your argument

Philosophía
thumb up

I was thinking of 'reviving' the discussion, but given the fact that there'd have to be a mod willing to constantly edit it, and the number of trolls...eh.

Sin I AM

Supermutant
Originally posted by Zack M
Shrugs. She used it on Flash. Isn't he protected by electricity type of energy, speed force? I think it'll work for the most part.

Storm has hydrokinesis in addition to bio-electricity. This whole discussion has already taken place in the other thread with the link already posted above.

https://imgur.com/P7NUCFI

Originally posted by Supermutant
Some here are assuming that Mera can control the water in Storm's body. I remember that Mera could not do that to Black Manta b/c of his bioelectric suit. Needlessly to say that Storm's body generates plenty of bio-electricity.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
thumb up

Has your position change on this Sin?

-Pr-
Everyone has bio-electricity inside of them. Everyone. That doesn't stop Mera affecting them. Storm's ability to resist is based on her own powers, not a simple fact of biology. She'll have to actively stop Mera if she can.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Supermutant
Storm has hydrokinesis in addition to bio-electricity. This whole discussion has already taken place in the other thread with the link already posted above.

https://imgur.com/P7NUCFI





Has your position change on this Sin? You don't understand the scan you're using.

As Pr said, everybody has bio-electricity. That doesn't make you immune to her powers.

What Black Manta had was a suit with a bioelectric seal.

Seal, being the key word.

https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/seal_1

"seal or seal up to close a container or space by covering it with something so that air or other substances cannot get in or out"

Supermutant
but everyone certainly cannot control their bio-electricity nor generate the amount that Storm has and combine that with her own hydrokinesis. it seems a reach to me that Mera would be able to overcome storm own bio-electricity plus her hydrokineses before storm would shut off her brain's impulses.

Stoic
This entire thing comes down to quick draw, and Storm attacks with lightning. Who hits whom first is the question. Also does Storm have the ability to suck the oxygen out of a persons lungs?

Zack M
But Mera has the very same powers (with the Trident), along with weather control, and electrokinesis.

Supermutant

Philosophía
Originally posted by Supermutant
but everyone certainly cannot control their bio-electricity nor generate the amount that Storm has and combine that with her own hydrokinesis. it seems a reach to me that Mera would be able to overcome storm own bio-electricity plus her hydrokineses before storm would shut off her brain's impulses. Mera's powers are communicating through bioelectricity.

That's why Manta had a suit that sealed bioelectricity.

Generating more bioelectricity is like trying to stop a fire by randomly pouring gasoline.

You've posted a scan that is literally the opposite of what you're saying Storm would do.

Storm's water control isn't even close to the scale Mera operates at.

Supermutant
Originally posted by Zack M
But Mera has the very same powers (with the Trident), along with weather control, and electrokinesis.

So you are giving her the trident now conveniently which means Storm gets the hammer too yes?

Zack M
Mera owns the Trident now. Check out Mera's last/Final issue. Nothing convenient about it.

Stoic
Originally posted by Supermutant
So you are giving her the trident now conveniently which means Storm gets the hammer too yes?

Storm has been in possession of the hammer for far longer than Mera has been in possession of Ocean Masters trident. She actually just received it.

Supermutant

Supermutant
Originally posted by Zack M
Mera owns the Trident now. Check out Mera's last/Final issue. Nothing convenient about it.

Its convenient b/c I previously asked the question how was this thread different from the other one if the ladies didn't have their weapons. And I got no response then, but Storm does have some feats (not many) with her hammer. It definitely improves her stats I'll post some in a minute.

Stoic
Originally posted by Supermutant
Wow you missed the whole point. Storm controls her own bio-electricity and her water control doesn't need to be greater than Mera's at all. She just needs to control her own internal hydrokineses and only long enough for her 1-shot internal attacks to work. This isn't complicated at all.

You'll have to wait. Phil is checking to make sure the cyber attack worked. Lol.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Supermutant
Storm controls her own bio-electricity Now you're pretending like this is an arm-wrestle on bio-electric fields.

I can't believe you can't understand a two panel scan. Even after you backed down from your "she haz a bio electric field!!" misunderstanding of the scan, your 2nd interpretation is still terrible. You're really bad at this.

Let's go over it again:
https://imgur.com/P7NUCFI

"You think I don't know how your hydrokinesis works, Mera? It requires a link to your target. And although the moisture in the air is usually enough to carry your telepathic signal -- my suit has a bio electric seal".

Mera sends TP signals through the bio-electric field/moisture etc., in order to make a link to her target . If Storm doesn't have a bioelectric seal between her, and everything else , Mera will take control and beat her.

Originally posted by Supermutant
her water control doesn't need to be greater than Mera's at all. She just needs to control her own internal hydrokineses So it doesn't need to be greater, but it needs to be greater to resist Mera and do her thing?

lol

-Pr-
Originally posted by Supermutant
but everyone certainly cannot control their bio-electricity nor generate the amount that Storm has and combine that with her own hydrokinesis. it seems a reach to me that Mera would be able to overcome storm own bio-electricity plus her hydrokineses before storm would shut off her brain's impulses.

The problem is that Storm has to actively battle Mera's attack WHILE trying to use one of her own. She has to actively resist Mera; it's not just passively happening.

The "quick-draw" argument a lot of people have been using is largely the correct one.

Philosophía
Originally posted by -Pr-
The problem is that Storm has to actively battle Mera's attack WHILE trying to use one of her own. She has to actively resist Mera; it's not just passively happening.

The "quick-draw" argument a lot of people have been using is largely the correct one. I also like how we're pretending that Storm reads Aquaman comics that Supermutant provides for her, and knows exactly how Mera's powers operate.

The same guy who, ironically, would explain them wrong, and Storm would get one-shotted.

We only got into this discussion because he read the scan wrong, and thought the simple presence of a bio-electric field would jam Mera, so there'd be no need for extra knowledge.

But now he has no other option than to dig his hole deeper and deeper. I won't be surprised to see him say Storm breaks the 4th wall, or that Black Manta is her side-guy, so she'd know this info.

Simply awful.

Zack M
Originally posted by Supermutant
Its convenient b/c I previously asked the question how was this thread different from the other one if the ladies didn't have their weapons. And I got no response then, but Storm does have some feats (not many) with her hammer. It definitely improves her stats I'll post some in a minute.

We can do both, since both characters have weapon upgrades. No biggie. Both have their stats improved because of this.

Stoic
Let us not forget how fast lightning strikes. Whoever attacks first, wins.

Zack M
Originally posted by Stoic
Let us not forget how fast lightning strikes. Whoever attacks first, wins.

Both are able to cancel that attack out, though. Mera with the trident and Storm through her weather manipulation.

Supermutant

Supermutant

Philosophía
Originally posted by Supermutant
And lol again you mention control, that's the whole point that Storm has total control over her own body with her powers, so that Mera can't affected her internally

I don't why you are attempting to bring up who has external water control that's greater it doesn't matter. All Storm has to do is defend against the internal attack. Well, at least now you're just saying platitudes, once you've seen you don't understand how her powers work. Progress. thumb up

Mera is controling water through telepathy. You're trying to make a desperate distinction between it being in Storm's body, or the ocean, when there's no difference at all. So show me Storm resisting water control at this level:
https://imgur.com/a/AvKxi
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https://imgur.com/a/SFe9Z
Furthermore..
You haven't provided any proof of Storm's internal water control. Feel free to do so, at any moment smile

Originally posted by Supermutant
Which brings me to Stormcaster which has protected no sealed (since that word means more to you) Storm from the vacum of space.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/56754/6458965-rco009.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/56754/6458966-rco010.jpg See Zack? Introducing weapons wasn't so bad for him.

Do I really need to point out how stupid the argument that Stormcaster would make a shield to block Mera's TP is, which Storm doesn't even know of since standard knowledge of Mera's powers isn't the specific knowledge Black Manta has , just because it protects her in space?

This was terrible. And it's not the first time I've seen you unable to read scans, or follow logic thoughts.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Supermutant
This is just plain silly now, and some of the same arguments as before. I will just copy what I stated before. lol

Now Storm will shift her view to energy! which she does in this fight, for some ... uh.. reason. Are you sure you know the difference between forum fights and battlezone tourneys?
Storm will then somehow 'see' Mera's telepathic powers trying to act on her body and block them with her special-bio-electric-sealing-powers (!) before they can take effect , or just forcefully use her internal hydrokinesis to counter her control ?

Furthermore, you show Storm creating a water bubble and creating oxygen through electrolysis as....counter for Mera, who can block oceans from moving, taking control of the water inside her body?


I want to battlezone you on this. You deserve to self-ban for this idiocy.

So, basically, it's: under forum rules, would Storm block Mera's abilities.

2 month, self imposed ban.

Are you on?

-Pr-
Philo, why can't you try just being, I dunno... Nice?

SuperMutant: I don't think anyone is saying that Storm can't resist Mera's attack. The problem is that you seem to be saying she has some built-in immunity to it, when none of the scans you've posted support that.

Resistance and immunity, as I'm sure you know, aren't the same thing.

Supermutant
Phil thinks stating the same thing over again five different ways is working for him. Well, he's also just making his own dumb interpretations, and responding to them like going full blown retard circle jerk mode. Did you really just bring up tp against Storm? If you think Storm needs to hammer to resist tp, this will be a fast BZ. Wow I hope you don't show your yellow streak turn tail and run from this that you half started but I'm going to finalize it with a real proposal. Storm w/o weapons vs Mera w/o weapons.

And two months ban is nothing to me, b/c I don't post that disturbingly often like you. So let's make it a year ban and I'll be the hero of kmc.

Supermutant
Originally posted by -Pr-
Philo, why can't you try just being, I dunno... Nice?

SuperMutant: I don't think anyone is saying that Storm can't resist Mera's attack. The problem is that you seem to be saying she has some built-in immunity to it, when none of the scans you've posted support that.

Resistance and immunity, as I'm sure you know, aren't the same thing.

Then we are in much agreement, that's my main point. That Storm can resist Mera's attack long enough to counter with her own internal attack which Mera doesn't have a resistance too.

Those scans was just to show Storm has hydrokinesis also. Of course now, I'll show more in the BZ if Phil accepts.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Supermutant
Then we are in much agreement, that's my main point. That Storm can resist Mera's attack long enough to counter with her own internal attack which Mera doesn't have a resistance too.

Those scans was just to show Storm has hydrokinesis also. Of course now, I'll show more in the BZ if Phil accepts.

thumb up Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Just try to be nicer about it, like I've told Philo.

TBH, I only know that both women can win. I've no idea who I'd like to see win, or who I think would.

Philosophía
Originally posted by -Pr-
Philo, why can't you try just being, I dunno... Nice? Pr, you've seen him, in actual real time, switching positions. It went from:

"Storm generates much bioelectric energy so Mera can't do anything"


to

"Storm can control her own bioelectric energy"


At this point, he brought up Stormcaster helping her fly in space as an argument that...Mera's powers don't work.

Now, at this point, when he realized he went so far-off in his bullsheit that he needs more than basic knowledge, which Storm doesn't get, since she's not friends with Black Manta, he started taking control of the character, battlezone style, and say that in the time between when Mera thinks to take control the water in Storm's body to one-shot her, Storm will :

a). Switch to see the world as energy, randomly, because Supermutant says so


b). She somehow blocks Mera's powers - that she has no idea how they work, and there's no scan being posted that she can even do that.

c). Somehow, through all of this, Storm has so much control over the water in her own body, that she can defend against somebody who can stop the ocean with her mind. And the proof being posted is of Storm making a water bubble, and creating oxygen.

So, Raoul, I ask you, is my frustration with him being an id---well, a goalpost moving mor---...err...poster, unwarranted? You were right here, watching it live.

Look at this clip, this is how I feel 'debating' this guy:

8va7QpzKTPU

Philosophía
Originally posted by Supermutant
Storm w/o weapons vs Mera w/o weapons. You don't seem to understand - this discussion wasn't about who would win, but of your absolute incapability to understand forum rules, basic knowledge and how Mera's powers work. You've changed your position, in a single page, three times, and you're hoping nobody would notice.

You're not moving the goalpost, baby.

The battlezone invitation is about you showing that, in a forum fight, with basic knowledge:
Storm will 'see' Mera's powers trying to act on her body and block them, or just forcefully use her internal hydrokinesis to counter her control.

This was the position I dragged you in, after forcing you to change it multiple times.

I will now force you to defend it.

If you want, we can defend your initial position, that Storm generates a lot of bio-electric energy, so Mera's powers won't work. Do you want me to make you a fool on that, and show you how little you understood?

We'll start today, until tomorrow. 2 months self ban.

Good?

Sin I AM
Mera is fast enough to dodge lightning, electricity....fyi

Philosophía
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Mera is fast enough to dodge lightning, electricity....fyi Oh, I know. But we're not about to debate the actual fight, just Supermutant's absurd claims of taking control of the character , using his own knowledge of Mera based on a fight with Black Manta , and stopping Mera's powers from affecting Storm based on no evidence. On top of that, he argues that Storm can overcome Mera's control of water to drain her, based on laughable feats.

It's going to be fun.

Supermutant
lol again just more attributing what he wishes more position to be, instead of what it actually is. Now he is back-pedaling from his own challenge lol how pathetic. If think that you are characterizing my position correctly then you should have no problem beating me in an actual bz with said characters. I even gave up stormcaster too make it easy for you.

And now even increasing the ban to two years. You challenge me to a bz but now want to argue against an imaginary position in this thread.

So stop being a coward an accept this bz. Remember you was the first one to mentioned a bz.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Supermutant
lol again just more attributing what he wishes more position to be, instead of what it actually is. Now he is back-pedaling from his own challenge lol how pathetic. If think that you are characterizing my position correctly then you should have no problem beating me in an actual bz with said characters. I even gave up stormcaster too make it easy for you.

And now even increasing the ban to two years. You challenge me to a bz but now want to argue against an imaginary position in this thread.

So stop being a coward an accept this bz. Remember you was the first one to mentioned a bz. I think Storm wins this fight, more than she loses, you absolute idiot.

That doesn't make your arguments, about how Mera's power work, and how you're taking control of Storm and unable to prove any of your points, absolutely abysmal and constantly changing, which is why I challenged you to back them up.

Now you're strawmanning into "the battlezone was actually about them fighting!".

Good to know you're a coward.

Supermutant

CosmicComet
As an outside observer I have to say your arguments have been slippery and all around terrible supermutant.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Supermutant
lol what a clueless moron. Mera powers requires a telepathic link to the target as already shown, usually carried on the moisture in the air. Did you just point out what I corrected you on, and act like I didn't correct you 3 times on this, until it stuck in your head?

You're the one who came in this thread and completely missed the fact that Black Manta's suit is bioelectrically sealed in order to block Mera's powers. You thought that generatic bioelectrical energy is what's blocking Mera's powers:


when it's literally the exact opposite - it's isolating/sealing it bioelectrically. Which I had to explain to you, several times. Which is when you came up with Storm 'blocking it, just because'.

This is embarrassing.

Originally posted by Supermutant
This bz challenge has already been Mera vs Storm its in the title of this thread dummy. You tried to create your own imaginary argument and did argue against it like an idiot. And I was still willing to let you do that in an actual bz. But you pretty much conceded.

I challenged you on your arguments, not the fight. Are you playing dumb, or are you dumb?

If you say you're not dumb, I will report you, because this is straight up trolling.

Philosophía
Originally posted by CosmicComet
As an outside observer I have to say your arguments have been slippery and all around terrible supermutant. I'm considering reporting him, and I'm not even joking.

This is frustrating as hell. At least if I was in a talk with carver, I would have expected this, but I'm legitimately wondering if I'm being trolled.

carver9
Originally posted by Supermutant

Those scans was just to show Storm has hydrokinesis also. Of course now, I'll show more in the BZ if Phil accepts.

Wonder if Phil is going to accept. This yr termination.

Supermutant
Lol of course he won't. It's even funnier that he is accusing me of changing my position in this thread, when I am literally quoting myself from this same battle in another thread last year .Lol so position have not change from last year much less in this thread. Now the coward states that storm wins which I've said last year. Lol this is great and as entertaining as this is I think I'm done here, nothing left to even argue at this point from this Phil dummy.

shiv
Can Mera Execute

BFR KO or Kill

at 1/3 the speed of Light?

If the answer to this question is:

Idk, No or Maybe

The Redhead Dies

The Redhead Dies In A Fire

Zack M
Originally posted by shiv
Can Mera Execute

BFR KO or Kill

at 1/3 the speed of Light?

If the answer to this question is:

Idk, No or Maybe

The Redhead Dies

The Redhead Dies In A Fire

Probably. She took down a blitzing Flash and part of the Justice League. Atlanteans are physically superior here.

leonidas
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/popcorn-gifs/popcorn__.gif

shiv
Probably...


Mera Burns Zack.

Zack M
Originally posted by shiv
Probably...


Mera Burns Zack.

Not likely. Her trident can control weather/lightning. Not anytime soon. wink

shiv
Who said anything about Lightning

Zack M
That would be one of the only attacks that would work, but wouldn't.

shiv
All that atlantean bio-electromagnetic energy produced by Mera's strong healthy ginger body


That trident will come in handy

(y'know to check the flesh is firm + the juices run clear)

once Storm is done flash cooking fish lady from the inside-out.

Zack M
Not before Mera dumps the ocean on her. Flash Flood!

shiv
Good Thing Storm Can Fly Mr Anderson wink

Zack M
Originally posted by shiv
Good Thing Storm Can Fly Mr Anderson wink

So could Superman and Wonder Woman. wink Neither was safe.

shiv
The Flying Brick and The Flying Brick in a swimsuit

Stoic
Originally posted by Zack M
So could Superman and Wonder Woman. wink Neither was safe.

So Mera is a challenge to Superman now? Bullshit. You keep bringing up Superman jobbing to Mera like it's supposed to mean something, when all that it means is that he was holding back.

Zack M
Originally posted by Stoic
So Mera is a challenge to Superman now? Bullshit. You keep bringing up Superman jobbing to Mera like it's supposed to mean something, when all that it means is that he was holding back.

He didn't just job to Mera, but Ocean Master, too. Orm's Trident is a beast.

zopzop
Originally posted by Stoic
So Mera is a challenge to Superman now? Bullshit. You keep bringing up Superman jobbing to Mera like it's supposed to mean something, when all that it means is that he was holding back.
He never jobbed to Mera. She never beat him and he was never in danger at any point. The impressive thing about that showing is that Mera's water constructs are strong enough to hold CL100 beings like Superman and Wonder Woman for a minute or two. This may not seem like much but considering how WW has destroyed GL constructs like they were made of glass, it's damn impressive.

EDIT
I'm referring to her taking on the Justice League when she was trying to free Atlantis.

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Stoic
Originally posted by zopzop
He never jobbed to Mera. She never beat him and he was never in danger at any point. The impressive thing about that showing is that Mera's water constructs are strong enough to hold CL100 beings like Superman and Wonder Woman for a minute or two. This may not seem like much but considering how WW has destroyed GL constructs like they were made of glass, it's damn impressive.

EDIT
I'm referring to her taking on the Justice League when she was trying to free Atlantis.

So if Superman went all out how well would she do? I understand that she can give legit Cl100's pause, but I feel as if she being upsold here as if she were in their league. What about Storm's past feats? I know how powerful Mera is. Without her Arthur would have never defeated Corum Rath recently, and he was beast, but again what about how powerful Storm has recently become? What about how powerful she was, even before getting her hands on Stormcaster?

zopzop
Originally posted by Stoic
So if Superman went all out how well would she do?
Depends, can she desiccate him. If not, she lasts all of 30 seconds.


Oh for sure she can give Cl100's pause, if not outright kill them. Any being subject to desiccation is toast. Hell she might not even need to desiccate to kill, look what Awakened Hydroman did to Simon (Hydroman didn't kill him and Hawkeye because he wanted to use them as bait to lure in more Avengers). Mera can easily replicate that.

DarkSaint85
If we want to say she's being upsold, then there should be lower showings of hers which gives this theory credence.

After all, Batman doesn't go around tanking blows from class 100s on the regular - he has many many showings of him being hurt by ordinary muggers and clowns etc.

So if Mera is out of her weight class here, what low showings does she have?

Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm not sure how powerful Mera is with the Trident (Haven't caught up since her JL introduction) or Storm is with Stormcaster since she got it back, but Mera vs. Storm without weapons is Storm's fight too lose.

Mera has a little momentum but the Wind-rider has been doing this since the Claremont era. Storm has too many feats under her belt both in terms of ridiculous power and precision usage. She's everything Mera is, with far superior potential power (And now with potential godhood after the recent Black Panther arc) but with human level stats. She's the clear favorite imo unless this gets in close.

Mera taking on the JL as well as she did is imo very impressive and far beyond the capabilities I'd have assigned her before, and is probably greater than anything I can think of Storm doing off the top of my head (Without some form of amp or above natural levels of power), but, to quote Lex Luthor "You think I'm scared of you because you beat up the JL? That happens once a week!"

I have no doubt Storm would replicate that and do even better. Storm isn't just a female. She's a female of color. That's like a double buff.

Also lol at this thread convo.

Zack M
Mera (Rebirth) has fine control/precision over her powers, too. Storm isn't the only one. Plus, with Orm's Trident, she can basically do whatever Storm can, on top of Hydrokenisis.

Like Stoic and Zop said, whoever gets the first attack off wins.

-Pr-
This ****ing thread facepalm

One Big Mob
I've only read your post Paul and I couldn't agree more. Disgusting thread

-Pr-
thumb up

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Damborgson
Based on me being attracted to red heads thumb up

laughing out loud


BZ me.

Senor Cage
Nice feat from Mera.

https://i.imgur.com/8ukSBB1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2H0gCzt.jpg

Kazenji
Mera.

zopzop
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Nice feat from Mera.

https://i.imgur.com/8ukSBB1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2H0gCzt.jpg
When you've impressed Batman, you know you've made it! Go Mera!

MrMind
mera has been cucking aquaman so hard, she is way more powerful and more interesting

Bentley
KMC Storm throws a Galaxy at Mera.

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