What Were Palpatine's thoughts on Tenebrae?

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victreebelvictr
I am sure he knew about the emperor, but what did he think about him?

The Merchant
Probs thought he was a loser like Exar Kun.

AncientPower
Are you actually high? Both he and Plagueis held the likes of Kun, Tenebrae and Bane in high esteem.

The Ellimist
Originally posted by The Merchant
Probs thought he was a loser like Exar Kun.

Sinious
Plagueis acknowledges his semi-success in the novel in terms of immortality but still considers it a failure compared to his own goals. It hints that Vitiate was ahead of the rest, but Plagueis and Sidious were destined to surpass even him. If we're being honest, the main point of the novel is to depict how Sidious and Plagueis had surpassed all the Sith that came before them. Beyond that, I'm pretty sure that there isn't a medium where the duo's opinion of Vitiate is revealed.

Azronger
Originally posted by Sinious
Plagueis acknowledges his semi-success in the novel in terms of immortality but still considers it a failure compared to his own goals. It hints that Vitiate was ahead of the rest, but Plagueis and Sidious were destined to surpass even him. If we're being honest, the main point of the novel is to depict how Sidious and Plagueis had surpassed all the Sith that came before them. Beyond that, I'm pretty sure that there isn't a medium where the duo's opinion of Vitiate is revealed.

This. The only mention of Vitiate Sidious makes is in Book of the Sith, and that's not even about him but Malgus, when Palpatine states Malgus was one of Vitiate's best warriors.

But if I were to guess:

Originally posted by The Merchant
Probs thought he was a loser like Exar Kun.

relentless1
he thought he was a little *****


probably

The_Tempest
Originally posted by Azronger
This. The only mention of Vitiate Sidious makes is in Book of the Sith, and that's not even about him but Malgus, when Palpatine states Malgus was one of Vitiate's best warriors.

The fact that in a chronicle of people who rank among Sheev's most powerful and important predecessors he only deigns to mention Failkorion once seems pretty telling.

He didn't think much of him at all.

Azronger
Originally posted by The_Tempest
The fact that in a chronicle of people who rank among Sheev's most powerful and important predecessors he only deigns to mention Failkorion once seems pretty telling.

He didn't think much of him at all.

Yeah, seems he had more respect for Malgus than he did for Failkorion. Pretty telling indeed.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Or Valk carried all his secrets to the grave smilesmilesmile

Azronger
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Or Valk carried all his secrets to the grave smilesmilesmile

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Dark Empire Sourcebook

Canonically, the Emperor knows "all the greatest lore of the Dark Side," so either he has access to Failkorion's secrets of something even greater. Either possibility renders Failkorion insignificant, as on top of that, Palpatine "plumbed depths of darkness unknown before," solidifying his position as Failkorion's superior.

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by Azronger
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Dark Empire Sourcebook

Canonically, the Emperor knows "all the greatest lore of the Dark Side," so either he has access to Failkorion's secrets of something even greater. Either possibility renders Failkorion insignificant, as on top of that, Palpatine "plumbed depths of darkness unknown before," solidifying his position as Failkorion's superior.

And yet, Palpatine doesn't know how to transfer his spirit from a dark focal point to another like Freedon Nadd. It's safe to state that all these "sources" are concerned only about Palpatine's character and not about particular characters like Vitiate.

RealistRacism
Wait, Palpatine knows "all the greatest lore of the Dark Side" created before 1998? Dated sourcebook is dated.

RealistRacism
On topic, he probably held similar opinions to Plagueis; believed the ancients' feats to be remarkable, like 'myth,' but lacking the long-term goals necessary for true domination.

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by RealistRacism
Wait, Palpatine knows "all the greatest lore of the Dark Side" created before 1998? Dated sourcebook is dated.

Yeah - but these Sheevites love to pretend the fact that Palpatine has them just because they were, in-universe, post-Vitiate. They fail to understand that when Tom Veitch wrote Dark Empire Palpatine, he had no idea about what was to come.

You cannot state a writer's or character's respective official statements as true without taking in account when they were written. Dark Empire Palpatine's "super knowledge" holds no candle to "modern" Sith Lords.

Trocity
Cringe.

victreebelvictr
Originally posted by Trocity
Cringe. thumb up

CuckedCurry
Freedumb Nadd

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Azronger
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Dark Empire Sourcebook

Canonically, the Emperor knows "all the greatest lore of the Dark Side," so either he has access to Failkorion's secrets of something even greater. Either possibility renders Failkorion insignificant, as on top of that, Palpatine "plumbed depths of darkness unknown before," solidifying his position as Failkorion's superior.
Valkorion did not create holocrons and document his knowledge and capabilities in them. As another member remarked - Valkorion is among those who took his secrets to the grave.

Palpatine most likely 'assumed' that he knew everything, but this is not true. I see that DE Sourcebook statement in this light.

By the way:

In his relentless pursuit of immortality, the Emperor explored the most sinister, uncharted depths of the dark side.

From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by CuckedCurry
Freedumb Nadd

You're proceeding the wrong way if you want get my attention.

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Valkorion did not create holocrons and document his knowledge and capabilities in them. As another member remarked - Valkorion is among those who took his secrets to the grave.

Palpatine most likely 'assumed' that he knew everything, but this is not true. I see that DE Sourcebook statement in this light.

By the way:

In his relentless pursuit of immortality, the Emperor explored the most sinister, uncharted depths of the dark side.

From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)

Didn't all those Sith Lords who were not Korriban-ish do that?

Trocity
He probably thought more highly of him than say, a loser like Freedon Nadd, but other than that, not sure.

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by Trocity
He probably thought more highly of him than say, a loser like Freedon Nadd, but other than that, not sure.

Your puns are too obvious. I don't know what's your problem with me.

Freedon Nadd took everything with him in the grave. He was also not concerned with galactic dominance. But that doesn't diminish his knowledge of the Force. In fact, his weak spirit self was capable of pretty impressive feats.

victreebelvictr
That is true, he ragdolled Kun before he got the amulet.

Trocity
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Your puns are too obvious.

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RealistRacism
Freedon Nadd the character can conquer a planet of Drexl-riding Beast-Riders single-handedly, but what can Freedon Nadd the debater do? blink

CuckedCurry
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Stupendous is ****ing stupid. He has less brain cells than Azronger me.

AncientPower
Originally posted by The_Tempest
The fact that in a chronicle of people who rank among Sheev's most powerful and important predecessors he only deigns to mention Failkorion once seems pretty telling.

He didn't think much of him at all.

It's almost as if their outdated knowledge on Tenebrae wasn't extensive enough for an entry.

RealistRacism
Bane and Syn > Vitiate confirmed. What are you gonna do about that one libtards?

TenebrousWay
Vitiate didn't bring anything original to the Sith philosophy, so it's not a surprise Palpatine doesn't consider his contributions worth mentioning.

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by RealistRacism
Freedon Nadd the character can conquer a planet of Drexl-riding Beast-Riders single-handedly, but what can Freedon Nadd the debater do? blink

First, ask that yourself.

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by RealistRacism
Bane and Syn > Vitiate confirmed. What are you gonna do about that one libtards?

Based on what?

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