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victreebelvictr
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What Were Palpatine's thoughts on Tenebrae?

I am sure he knew about the emperor, but what did he think about him?


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Probs thought he was a loser like Exar Kun.


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Are you actually high? Both he and Plagueis held the likes of Kun, Tenebrae and Bane in high esteem.


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Probs thought he was a loser like Exar Kun.


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Plagueis acknowledges his semi-success in the novel in terms of immortality but still considers it a failure compared to his own goals. It hints that Vitiate was ahead of the rest, but Plagueis and Sidious were destined to surpass even him. If we're being honest, the main point of the novel is to depict how Sidious and Plagueis had surpassed all the Sith that came before them. Beyond that, I'm pretty sure that there isn't a medium where the duo's opinion of Vitiate is revealed.


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Plagueis acknowledges his semi-success in the novel in terms of immortality but still considers it a failure compared to his own goals. It hints that Vitiate was ahead of the rest, but Plagueis and Sidious were destined to surpass even him. If we're being honest, the main point of the novel is to depict how Sidious and Plagueis had surpassed all the Sith that came before them. Beyond that, I'm pretty sure that there isn't a medium where the duo's opinion of Vitiate is revealed.


This. The only mention of Vitiate Sidious makes is in Book of the Sith, and that's not even about him but Malgus, when Palpatine states Malgus was one of Vitiate's best warriors.

But if I were to guess:

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he thought he was a little *****


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This. The only mention of Vitiate Sidious makes is in Book of the Sith, and that's not even about him but Malgus, when Palpatine states Malgus was one of Vitiate's best warriors.


The fact that in a chronicle of people who rank among Sheev's most powerful and important predecessors he only deigns to mention Failkorion once seems pretty telling.

He didn't think much of him at all.

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The fact that in a chronicle of people who rank among Sheev's most powerful and important predecessors he only deigns to mention Failkorion once seems pretty telling.

He didn't think much of him at all.


Yeah, seems he had more respect for Malgus than he did for Failkorion. Pretty telling indeed.


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Or Valk carried all his secrets to the grave smilesmilesmile


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Or Valk carried all his secrets to the grave smilesmilesmile


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Dark Empire Sourcebook

Canonically, the Emperor knows "all the greatest lore of the Dark Side," so either he has access to Failkorion's secrets of something even greater. Either possibility renders Failkorion insignificant, as on top of that, Palpatine "plumbed depths of darkness unknown before," solidifying his position as Failkorion's superior.


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Dark Empire Sourcebook

Canonically, the Emperor knows "all the greatest lore of the Dark Side," so either he has access to Failkorion's secrets of something even greater. Either possibility renders Failkorion insignificant, as on top of that, Palpatine "plumbed depths of darkness unknown before," solidifying his position as Failkorion's superior.


And yet, Palpatine doesn't know how to transfer his spirit from a dark focal point to another like Freedon Nadd. It's safe to state that all these "sources" are concerned only about Palpatine's character and not about particular characters like Vitiate.


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Wait, Palpatine knows "all the greatest lore of the Dark Side" created before 1998? Dated sourcebook is dated.

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On topic, he probably held similar opinions to Plagueis; believed the ancients' feats to be remarkable, like 'myth,' but lacking the long-term goals necessary for true domination.

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Wait, Palpatine knows "all the greatest lore of the Dark Side" created before 1998? Dated sourcebook is dated.


Yeah - but these Sheevites love to pretend the fact that Palpatine has them just because they were, in-universe, post-Vitiate. They fail to understand that when Tom Veitch wrote Dark Empire Palpatine, he had no idea about what was to come.

You cannot state a writer's or character's respective official statements as true without taking in account when they were written. Dark Empire Palpatine's "super knowledge" holds no candle to "modern" Sith Lords.


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RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."

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Cringe.


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Cringe.
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Dark Empire Sourcebook

Canonically, the Emperor knows "all the greatest lore of the Dark Side," so either he has access to Failkorion's secrets of something even greater. Either possibility renders Failkorion insignificant, as on top of that, Palpatine "plumbed depths of darkness unknown before," solidifying his position as Failkorion's superior.

Valkorion did not create holocrons and document his knowledge and capabilities in them. As another member remarked - Valkorion is among those who took his secrets to the grave.

Palpatine most likely 'assumed' that he knew everything, but this is not true. I see that DE Sourcebook statement in this light.

By the way:

In his relentless pursuit of immortality, the Emperor explored the most sinister, uncharted depths of the dark side.

From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)

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You're proceeding the wrong way if you want get my attention.


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RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."

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