__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
Plagueis acknowledges his semi-success in the novel in terms of immortality but still considers it a failure compared to his own goals. It hints that Vitiate was ahead of the rest, but Plagueis and Sidious were destined to surpass even him. If we're being honest, the main point of the novel is to depict how Sidious and Plagueis had surpassed all the Sith that came before them. Beyond that, I'm pretty sure that there isn't a medium where the duo's opinion of Vitiate is revealed.
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This. The only mention of Vitiate Sidious makes is in Book of the Sith, and that's not even about him but Malgus, when Palpatine states Malgus was one of Vitiate's best warriors.
The fact that in a chronicle of people who rank among Sheev's most powerful and important predecessors he only deigns to mention Failkorion once seems pretty telling.
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Canonically, the Emperor knows "all the greatest lore of the Dark Side," so either he has access to Failkorion's secrets of something even greater. Either possibility renders Failkorion insignificant, as on top of that, Palpatine "plumbed depths of darkness unknown before," solidifying his position as Failkorion's superior.
And yet, Palpatine doesn't know how to transfer his spirit from a dark focal point to another like Freedon Nadd. It's safe to state that all these "sources" are concerned only about Palpatine's character and not about particular characters like Vitiate.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
On topic, he probably held similar opinions to Plagueis; believed the ancients' feats to be remarkable, like 'myth,' but lacking the long-term goals necessary for true domination.
Yeah - but these Sheevites love to pretend the fact that Palpatine has them just because they were, in-universe, post-Vitiate. They fail to understand that when Tom Veitch wrote Dark Empire Palpatine, he had no idea about what was to come.
You cannot state a writer's or character's respective official statements as true without taking in account when they were written. Dark Empire Palpatine's "super knowledge" holds no candle to "modern" Sith Lords.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
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Valkorion did not create holocrons and document his knowledge and capabilities in them. As another member remarked - Valkorion is among those who took his secrets to the grave.
Palpatine most likely 'assumed' that he knew everything, but this is not true. I see that DE Sourcebook statement in this light.
By the way:
In his relentless pursuit of immortality, the Emperor explored the most sinister, uncharted depths of the dark side.
You're proceeding the wrong way if you want get my attention.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."