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White man kills black man, shouldn't be spoken in the same sentence as MAGA hats arguing with an upset old man from a culture that was destroyed etc.

Another example white supremacist kills people with automobile, but Antifa...

Or women are raped, but some women lie, they shouldn't be believed.

Or a man 1500 years ago in Arabia was a paedo, A president today is lying about affairs pre-election and using money to cover it up.

But bro!

OP is just mad, right bros? Who got the jimmies memez?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
OP is just mad, right bros? Who got the jimmies memez?

Dude the fact you just self triggered over this made me legit laugh out loud. Good stuff.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
only going to deal with one point... Can you link me to Antifa being classified terrorists with homeland please.

You...can easily look this up, man. Why are you asking for this?

I've already posted a link for this, before, from the official government website. Look it up yourself.

Link

Sorry I'm confused confidential documents state this? Do we have an official proclamation from homeland? DDM please repost your link.

Because...

In August 2017 a petition was lodged with the White House petitioning system "We the People" calling upon the government to formally classify "AntiFa" as terrorist. A response in 2018 stated that Federal Law does not have a "mechanism for formally designating domestic terrorist organizations".

So basically some rightists wanted to equalise things?

Originally posted by Surtur
Dude the fact you just self triggered over this made me legit laugh out loud. Good stuff.

your only defense: projecting your gimped emotions

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Sorry I'm confused confidential documents state this? Do we have an official proclamation from homeland? DDM please repost your link.

Because...

In August 2017 a petition was lodged with the White House petitioning system "We the People" calling upon the government to formally classify "AntiFa" as terrorist. A response in 2018 stated that Federal Law does not have a "mechanism for formally designating domestic terrorist organizations".

So basically some rightists wanted to equalise things?

Let me clear it up for you, since the barking retards will only lie and distort the truth of the matter

in order to pander to his far right supporters, then gov chris christie, (the shame of my home state) and his cronies decided to push for antifa to be listed on the NJ terror group watch list, sharing their place on that list with neo-nazi groups.

So yes whirly, you are correct as usual: tactical equalization

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Let me clear it up for you, since the barking retards will only lie and distort the truth of the matter

in order to pander to his far right supporters, then gov chris christie, (the shame of my home state) and his cronies decided to push for antifa to be listed on the NJ terror group watch list, sharing their place on that list with neo-nazi groups.

So yes whirly, you are correct as usual: tactical equalization Thanks mate, I guessed it would be something like that. I'm going back to Squall X's post if I get time today to mock more of it and highlight further retardation.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
your only defense: projecting your gimped emotions

You self triggered. It's obvious and not up for debate.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Thanks mate, I guessed it would be something like that. I'm going back to Squall X's post if I get time today to mock more of it and highlight further retardation.

Anytime

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Sorry I'm confused confidential documents state this? Do we have an official proclamation from homeland?

Is the independent in the business of fake news?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Let me clear it up for you, since the barking retards will only lie and distort the truth of the matter

in order to pander to his far right supporters, then gov chris christie, (the shame of my home state) and his cronies decided to push for antifa to be listed on the NJ terror group watch list, sharing their place on that list with neo-nazi groups.

So yes whirly, you are correct as usual: tactical equalization

Let me clear up PVS' lies.

DHS had been monitoring Antifa closely since 2016, when Trump wasn't even president, as a domenstic terrorist organization.

And weird, leftist lies like PVS's above, are easily proven false with articles like these:


https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235






But let's pretend that a White House Petition in 2017 had anything to do with Antifa's classification in 2016.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Let me clear up PVS' lies.

DHS had been monitoring Antifa closely since 2016, when Trump wasn't even president, as a domenstic terrorist organization.

And weird, leftist lies like PVS's above, are easily proven false with articles like these:


https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235






But let's pretend that a White House Petition in 2017 had anything to do with Antifa's classification in 2016. but no present national official classification exists for Antifa. Does it?

#JustChimpyThings


Originally posted by Bashar Teg
they'll never successfully ban anti-fascism, all they can do is ban the organization known as "antifa".
so let them throw in an antifa-ban as a whiney backslide in a federal ban on nazi organizations.

notice even in the NJ banning it's never mentioned that anti-fascism=terrorism but rather simply refers to 'antifa' and labels them 'anarchists'
https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-antifa

yet implies that nazis=terrorists like a mother****er.
https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/the-face-of-white-supremacy-in-2017

As you can clearly see, I am right as always
Originally posted by Putinbot1
but no present national official classification exists for Antifa. Does it?

nnnope

Originally posted by Putinbot1
White man kills black man, shouldn't be spoken in the same sentence as MAGA hats arguing with an upset old man from a culture that was destroyed etc.

Another example white supremacist kills people with automobile, but Antifa...

Or women are raped, but some women lie, they shouldn't be believed.

Or a man 1500 years ago in Arabia was a paedo, A president today is lying about affairs pre-election and using money to cover it up.

But bro!


Equalization is how you make something on your side (or more associated with) that is shitty, seem less shitty.

eg

-White Supremacist march, slinging racial slurs, inciting people to violence and a woman ends up being murdered; with multiple others injured by said like-minded White Supremacist.

Options:

A) Condemn White Supremacy and the murder.
B) Try to make those actions seem less vile via equalization. "What about Antifa!"

Originally posted by dadudemon
Let me clear up PVS' lies.

DHS had been monitoring Antifa closely since 2016, when Trump wasn't even president, as a domenstic terrorist organization.

And weird, leftist lies like PVS's above, are easily proven false with articles like these:


https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235






But let's pretend that a White House Petition in 2017 had anything to do with Antifa's classification in 2016.

Damn, that's a bingo.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
#JustChimpyThings




As you can clearly see, I am right as always


nnnope


Why do you support Antfi, I really would like to know.

Well no really but crack on with the equalization.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
White man kills black man, shouldn't be spoken in the same sentence as MAGA hats arguing with an upset old man from a culture that was destroyed etc.

you can be upset about both, even upset about one more than the other

but don't distort facts and truncate videos like your media did, did you know that said "old man" not only has assault charges but lied about being a Vietnam vet?



or maybe don't make sweeping statements and say 100% of women should or shouldn't be believed

Originally posted by Robtard
Equalization is how you make something on your side (or more associated with) that is shitty, seem less shitty.

eg

-White Supremacist march, slinging racial slurs, inciting people to violence and a woman ends up being murdered; with multiple others injured by said like-minded White Supremacist.

Options:

A) Condemn White Supremacy and the murder.
B) Try to make those actions seem less vile via equalization. "What about Antifa!" And this is indeed the problem.with rightist equalization.

Originally posted by Valkorion
you can be upset about both, even upset about one more than the other

but don't distort facts and truncate videos like your media did, did you know that said "old man" not only has assault charges but lied about being a Vietnam vet?



or maybe don't make sweeping statements and say 100% of women should or shouldn't be believed those would be the rational responses and not post every incident where a guy is being fitted up by a woman and ignore the many more when a guy isn't to push a narrative.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
those would be the rational responses and not post every incident where a guy is being fitted up by a woman and ignore the many more when a guy isn't to push a narrative.

yes, this selective reporting is done by both leftist and right wing sources

i've noticed that for ex: dmb is much more willing to admit faults with conservatives than you are with liberals

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Why do you support Antfi, I really would like to know.

slander because you can't emotionally cope with seeing your buddybro proven wrong. boohoo spura

Ok so you dont support Antifa? Im trying to get your position. If all you want to do is throw insults, we can just go back to ignoring each other. I dont honestly feel like you want to have an actual conversation or take a solid position.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
And this is indeed the problem.with rightist equalization.

Funny/not funny topical point. Somehow the White Supremacist chanting racial remarks and wearing known symbols of hatred and oppression wasn't an incitement to violence back then, but beating a drum close to someone is. Weird, that.

Originally posted by Valkorion
yes, this selective reporting is done by both leftist and right wing sources

i've noticed that for ex: dmb is much more willing to admit faults with conservatives than you are with liberals well that's the false equalization, it's usually someone on the right who has killed someone or something equally serious, the leftist has usually banged a drum or thrown ice cream.

Originally posted by Robtard
Funny/not funny topical point. Somehow the White Supremacist chanting racial remarks and wearing known symbols of hatred and oppression wasn't an incitement to violence back then, but beating a drum close to someone is. Weird, that. Yeah, it's ludicrous how they can't see who they are. Throwing a milkshake is equal to running someone over in a car.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Yeah, it's ludicrous how they can't see who they are. Throwing a milkshake is equal to running someone over in a car.

Let's be fair, it was chocolate milk being poured on someone and it was tantamount to physical assault, not murder.

Originally posted by Robtard
Let's be fair, it was chocolate milk being poured on someone and it was tantamount to physical assault, not murder. true i nearly got charged for throwing a Bacardi in someone's face once.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
banged a drum

more like "tapped", but yeah

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Can you link me to Antifa being classified terrorists with homeland please.

Originally posted by dadudemon
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235





Originally posted by Bashar Teg
they'll never successfully ban anti-fascism, all they can do is ban the organization known as "antifa".
so let them throw in an antifa-ban as a whiney backslide in a federal ban on nazi organizations.

notice even in the NJ banning it's never mentioned that anti-fascism=terrorism but rather simply refers to 'antifa' and labels them 'anarchists'
https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/...tremists-antifa

yet implies that nazis=terrorists like a mother****er.
https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/...premacy-in-2017

As you can clearly see, I am right as always

As we can all tell, you were wrong. Once you were proven wrong, you shifted the goalposts to talking about banning Antifa when the original question and topic was about Antifa being classified as a domestic terrorism organization

I'm not sure why anyone would fail to see your dishonest tactics. Seems rather obvious that your a sleazeball.


Did anyone fall for PVS' trick? Did anyone actually believe him when he weirdly shifted the topic to bans?


Originally posted by Bashar Teg
nnnope


Yyyyup. They didn't magically get declassified. If so, please post your source.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
more like "tapped", but yeah

Pounding a drum like it owed him money and singing loudly in his face, but yeah.

DDM classified documents formalize nothing.

A group that riots and burns down the school is a terrorist group, point blank.

Doesnt matter if they are on paper as being one.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
A group that riots and burns down the school is a terrorist group, point blank.

Doesnt matter if they are on paper as being one. so, they are not officially a terrorist group, being emotive formalises nothing TI.

SO according to our Lefty Mind Thinkers (Oxymoron there?)

Equality = Bad!?


Yeah. Makes sense.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
DDM classified documents formalize nothing.

You're wrong.

It doesn't get much clearer than this:





What exactly are you wanting and why do you want it? I don't believe, at this point, you're an honest actor in the conversation.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're wrong.

It doesn't get much clearer than this:





What exactly are you wanting and why do you want it? I don't believe, at this point, you're an honest actor in the conversation. No official designation has ever taken place a statement was issued in 2017 stating this.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
so, they are not officially a terrorist group, being emotive formalises nothing TI.

I have read articles saying they are classified as a DT group, No i cant find you the exact documents.

But really why does it matter? If they support violence for political purposes, thats terrorism.

there it is. DDM is proven wrong and so that must mean that whirly's an antagonist and his stated fact is invalid. Calm down and have some play-doh, buttercup

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
I have read articles saying they are classified as a DT group, No i cant find you the exact documents.

But really why does it matter? If they support violence for political purposes, thats terrorism. No official classification exists, the opinion of a report document does not speak for a government body. Ever read an email disclaimer.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
I have read articles saying they are classified as a DT group

Shouldn't that be the end of the discussion, then? Why would you continue beyond that unless the news source was suspect?

If you've seen the citations from credible news reports, that's the end. Nothing left to talk about.



If you wish to be briefed with official classified documentation, you'll have to take a job with DHS or the FBI working in their counter-terrorism groups.

Edit - And you'd have to get a security clearance but based on what you've told us, you might not qualify for one.


Originally posted by Bashar Teg
there it is. DDM is proven wrong and so that must mean that whirly's an antagonist and his stated fact is invalid. Calm down and have some play-doh, buttercup

So this is it, eh? You were thoroughly proven wrong and I called out your liar tactics, so this is the part where you pretend reality doesn't happen and substitute your fantasies? haermm

Originally posted by dadudemon
Shouldn't that be the end of the discussion, then? Why would you continue beyond that unless the news source was suspect?

If you've seen the citations from credible news reports, that's the end. Nothing left to talk about.



If you wish to be briefed with official classified documentation, you'll have to take a job with DHS or the FBI working in their counter-terrorism groups.

Edit - And you'd have to get a security clearance but based on what you've told us, you might not qualify for one.




So this is it, eh? You were thoroughly proven wrong and I called out your liar tactics, so this is the part where you pretend reality doesn't happen and substitute your fantasies? haermm So no official.public classification of Antifa exists. Which is why they publicly protest still. Thanks DDM.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
SO according to our Lefty Mind Thinkers (Oxymoron there?)

Equality = Bad!?


Yeah. Makes sense.

Nah, man. It's more a "power hierarchy" argument.


Black guy walks into white diner, doesn't get served for an hour. People that come in later served ahead of him.


White guy enters mostly white diner. Doesn't get served for an hour, people who come in later get served first.


Black guy entered black/mixed race diner.




Why does any of this matter? Because white/black relations, claim whites have power over blacks. And since you can't read someone's mind, there's a zero tolerance policy of any HINT of racism from whites, towards blacks.


While, if a black person openly discriminates against a white person, that is frowned up.. but not considered in the same category.


No, the entire African American/black community can come out today, and openly promote hate against all white people, and it won't be considered the same.




It's not fair, but it isn't meant to be. That's just how it is.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6556213/Antifa-protestor-flashes-bum-riot-police-Portland-Oregon.html

What a terrorist...

Originally posted by Putinbot1
White man kills black man, shouldn't be spoken in the same sentence as MAGA hats arguing with an upset old man from a culture that was destroyed etc.

Another example white supremacist kills people with automobile, but Antifa...

Or women are raped, but some women lie, they shouldn't be believed.

Or a man 1500 years ago in Arabia was a paedo, A president today is lying about affairs pre-election and using money to cover it up.

But bro!

These are stupid gripes that could easily be overcome with some logic.

On both sides. Stop being so tribal.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
These are stupid gripes that could easily be overcome with some logic.

On both sides. Stop being so tribal. not really, that's the problem with the equalization it's not the same for both sides.

Originally posted by cdtm
Nah, man. It's more a "power hierarchy" argument.


Black guy walks into white diner, doesn't get served for an hour. People that come in later served ahead of him.


White guy enters mostly white diner. Doesn't get served for an hour, people who come in later get served first.


Black guy entered black/mixed race diner.




Why does any of this matter? Because white/black relations, claim whites have power over blacks. And since you can't read someone's mind, there's a zero tolerance policy of any HINT of racism from whites, towards blacks.


While, if a black person openly discriminates against a white person, that is frowned up.. but not considered in the same category.


No, the entire African American/black community can come out today, and openly promote hate against all white people, and it won't be considered the same.




It's not fair, but it isn't meant to be. That's just how it is.

Having had that happen to me in restaraunts I agree. Burn said locations down and then accuse them of every kind of hate crime. Its the only fair thing to do.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
These are stupid gripes that could easily be overcome with some logic.

On both sides. Stop being so tribal.

{oxymoron there?)

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
These are stupid gripes that could easily be overcome with some logic.

On both sides. Stop being so tribal.

We have a "both sides" bingo! False equivalencies prove I am nonpartisan and above it all.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
We have a "both sides" bingo! False equivalencies prove I am nonpartisan and above it all. Pretty much.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6556213/Antifa-protestor-flashes-bum-riot-police-Portland-Oregon.html

What a terrorist...

"Bare-faced cheek! Antifa protestor goads riot officer by dropping her trousers in front of him and asking if he 'has anal recognition software'



https://i.imgur.com/prZOjnp.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/W3lcCHG.png

The incels will not like this.

Originally posted by Robtard
"Bare-faced cheek! Antifa protestor goads riot officer by dropping her trousers in front of him and asking if he 'has anal recognition software'



But is it as bad as drumming in his face?

Originally posted by Valkorion
you can be upset about both, even upset about one more than the other

but don't distort facts and truncate videos like your media did, did you know that said "old man" not only has assault charges but lied about being a Vietnam vet?



or maybe don't make sweeping statements and say 100% of women should or shouldn't be believed

Bingo.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
But is it as bad as drumming in his face?

Or smirking while white?

Originally posted by Surtur
Or smirking while white?

I agree, the AntiFa protestor and the MAGA kid both demonstrate a stunning degree of white privilege.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I agree, the AntiFa protestor and the MAGA kid both demonstrate a stunning degree of white privilege.

Quality trolling here, 8/10.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I agree, the AntiFa protestor and the MAGA kid both demonstrate a stunning degree of white privilege.

Bingo.

If that had been a non-White ass flashed, the chances of a beating would have gone up drastically.

Ohh damn you two adults are serious? Lol my bad. Carry on.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
So no official.public classification of Antifa exists. Which is why they publicly protest still. Thanks DDM.

No, it is public. Which is why you can find this information on many different news sites. However, obtaining the original documentation, which appears to be classified, is what you'll have problems getting in your hands.

Feel free to contact Politico for their confidential documentation. I highly doubt they will share it.

You may also get something with the Freedom of Information Act of there are declassified documents you can consume if you're a US Citizen.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, it is public. Which is why you can find this information on many different news sites. However, obtaining the original documentation, which appears to be classified, is what you'll have problems getting in your hands.

Feel free to contact Politico for their confidential documentation. I highly doubt they will share it.

You may also get something with the Freedom of Information Act of there are declassified documents you can consume if you're a US Citizen.

Nah surely Politico would share it, dipshit leftists whine about transparency all the time. When have they ever not practiced what they preached?

Originally posted by Surtur
Ohh damn you two adults are serious? Lol my bad. Carry on.

Still trig'd that a woman flashed her booty? Damn.

Not triggered, she has no ass. Hopefully her t*ts make up for it, but I doubt it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Funny/not funny topical point. Somehow the White Supremacist chanting racial remarks and wearing known symbols of hatred and oppression wasn't an incitement to violence back then, but beating a drum close to someone is. Weird, that.
The thing is, the supreme court has already specifically ruled that Nazis chanting racist things while wearing symbols of hatred and oppression is constitutionally protected unless they're DIRECTLY inciting/calling for violence. Now as to whether or not getting right up in someones face shouting/chanting while banging a drum would qualify as provocation(no one is saying he was making a call to violence) is something that a judge would need to rule on.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
But is it as bad as drumming in his face?
I wouldn't think so, he's not invading anyone's personal space so it doesn't seem nearly as aggressive.

Originally posted by darthgoober
The thing is, the supreme court has already specifically ruled that Nazis chanting racist things while wearing symbols of hatred and oppression is constitutionally protected unless they're DIRECTLY inciting/calling for violence. Now as to whether or not getting right up in someones face shouting/chanting while banging a drum would qualify as provocation(no one is saying he was making a call to violence) is something that a judge would need to rule on.

No, it isn't protected speech what Philips did. You're not allowed to get in someone's face like that. It's just that the MAGA people are "good ol' boys" and are too stupid to press charges against Philips for assault. Seems like an open and shut case.




https://www.trupianolaw.com/practice-areas/criminal-defense-white-collar-crime/assault-and-battery/

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, it is public. Which is why you can find this information on many different news sites. However, obtaining the original documentation, which appears to be classified, is what you'll have problems getting in your hands.

Feel free to contact Politico for their confidential documentation. I highly doubt they will share it.

You may also get something with the Freedom of Information Act of there are declassified documents you can consume if you're a US Citizen. An in host document, is not an official public proclamation. We are just going round in circles. Antifa are still allowed to assemble and demonstrate. An officially classified terrorist group would not be.

In house*

Originally posted by Putinbot1
An in house document, is not an official public proclamation.

Correct which is why they corroborated with Politico to make it public.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
We are just going round in circles.

We are going around in circles but it is due to you not being honest in this conversation.


Originally posted by Putinbot1
Antifa are still allowed to assemble and demonstrate. An officially classified terrorist group would not be.


You're wrong. This is the USA, not the UK. We have freedom of assembly and freedom of speech built into our constitution as "inalienable rights." The burden is on the "state" to prove impropriety on an organization's part before they are allowed to bust up a private assembly. As we clearly saw in the Politico article, the FBI and DHS work with local law enforcement when terrorist activities are about. Placing police in the correct direction, intervening, or making arrests where appropriate.

For example, this cooperation allowed the finding and capture with this antifa man before he could set off his bombs:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/south-dakota-man-arrested-police-find-explosives-firearms-and-antifa-materials-in-his-home


Also, this:

"White man kills black man, shouldn't be spoken in the same sentence as MAGA hats arguing with an upset old man from a culture that was destroyed etc."

I agree. It takes at least a paragraph to talk about those things, not a single sentence.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Correct which is why they corroborated with Politico to make it public.



We are going around in circles but it is due to you not being honest in this conversation.





You're wrong. This is the USA, not the UK. We have freedom of assembly and freedom of speech built into our constitution as "inalienable rights." The burden is on the "state" to prove impropriety on an organization's part before they are allowed to bust up a private assembly. As we clearly saw in the Politico article, the FBI and DHS work with local law enforcement when terrorist activities are about. Placing police in the correct direction, intervening, or making arrests where appropriate.

For example, this cooperation allowed the finding and capture with this antifa man before he could set off his bombs:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/south-dakota-man-arrested-police-find-explosives-firearms-and-antifa-materials-in-his-home


Also, this:

"White man kills black man, shouldn't be spoken in the same sentence as MAGA hats arguing with an upset old man from a culture that was destroyed etc."

I agree. It takes at least a paragraph to talk about those things, not a single sentence. im not wrong i can give plenty of examples where groups have been pevented from assembling in the us. I guarantee Isis for example would not be allowed a branch in the us.

Iirc, that happened, some Conservative argued against open-to-all forums in colleges on the grounds that a group like ISIS would then be covered under the same umbrella of protection and could use that to spread it's message and to possibly recruit. Trying to recall the thread the story was posted in, was a couple years back.

Also promise you, the same people who lose their marbles whenever a bigoted pedophile-apologist shitlord like Milo is barred from speaking at a college, would flip their shit if an ISIS recruiter was allowed on stage.

Originally posted by Robtard
Iirc, that happened, some Conservative argued against open-to-all forums in colleges on the grounds that a group like ISIS would then be covered under the same umbrella of protection and could use that to spread it's message and to possibly recruit. Trying to recall the thread the story was posted in, was a couple years back.

Also promise you, the same people who lose their marbles whenever a bigoted pedophile-apologist shitlord like Milo is barred from speaking at a college, would flip their shit if an ISIS recruiter was allowed on stage. Exactly.

"Now do the same with"... The most ridiculous go to comment from racist rightists as they try to deflect about something different.