Chapter II - The broken filter
Halfway through Damborg's post, I was unsure whether he momentarily forgot that he was repping Hal and not Thor.
To start..
*Thor/Glory*
So his position is that Mjolnir 'couldn't redirect all of Glory's blast into his hammer'. This is not only false - but literally the page he posted proves his point as false.
But let's start from the beginning, because this is actually a ridiculous feat for Thor . I will posted the full sequence and with relevant information about Glory.
1. What is Glory? It's an abstract entity that contains the power of an entire patheon of Gods - ten thousand of them to be precise:
https://i.imgur.com/Iok1gzm.jpg
2. Thor flies straight through it as he's assaulted on all levels :
https://i.imgur.com/ng29TJg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/x09VQnf.jpg
3. Thor calls out the winds of a thousand worlds to create a cosmic hurricane inside of it:
https://i.imgur.com/41pAMmP.jpg
...and now, we get to the sequence that he, inexplicably, tried to use as an argument.
4). Damborg cut off the previous scan, in order for you not to see the situation Thor was in when he was blasted. Glory restrains Thor in its palm just as he's escaping its body, and blasts him with "a torrent of COSMIC FIRE that contained the totality of its power" . Mid-blast, weakened Thor, "his entire body trembling from the effort, raised Mjolnir high - absorbing Glory's fire into his hammer" and one shots the cosmic being with its own power in a blast that "tore through REALITY ITSELF".
https://i.imgur.com/IbTshYa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ekKBD22.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Ri5lQIN.jpg
In short -
- weakened and hurt Thor only used his hammer to absorb the attack after he had already been blasted by it as he was restrained in Glory's palm ..
- Not only he absorbed the totality of the power of the abstract entity..
- He redirected it back and one-shot it
This is a crazy feat of energy absorbtion and redirection by Thor - hell, I was about to use this just in case the 'Godblast' was used.
All of this, after I already showed that Thor can omni-directionally absorb energy:
https://imgur.com/MwK13Ux
And the countless other examples of Mjolnir forcefully drawing the energy in. Null-Bomb, Kang, Presence, etc.
Since I have it at hand, here's Silver Surfer's cosmic power being drawn in:
https://i.imgur.com/pF4PJUA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/qK4mPMd.jpg
Judges...to summarize how I feel:
https://i.imgur.com/1FvzhMO.jpg
He then goes on to bring up shields. And constructs. Again - as I made clear - all of this is just energy. I will absorb his constructs, his shields, his power, his everything. The durability of the shields is irrelevant - as Magneto found out on short notice:
https://i.imgur.com/41FR8Zs.jpg
He tried to use Parasite when the latter wasn't actively absorbing Hal's power - he was distracted after he had absorbed Diana's power/connection with Olympus. But once he resumed absorbing energy, Hal was drained completely:
https://i.imgur.com/PEZ6JNC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5FHNyIe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/arZ5OC8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9WyLG0X.jpg
It's, again, baffling to use this example, since Hal was btfo by draining twice in that instance:
https://i.imgur.com/e54cQ3g.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9VDDcJT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aorhzPo.jpg
Bonus random point that was misunderstood:
- unless Hal is running away from the fight in the opposite direction, it doesn't matter who can fly faster, the point was that I can cover the distance between us instantly
His plan is 'shield myself, become Leatherface and chainsaw him to death'. I can feel Bran laughing uncontrollably somewhere.
I don't want you to get bored judges, so at this point, in order to keep the talk going, I'm going to move on to the next chapter...
Chapter III - Let's nerf Thor
Energy absorbtion is a cop-out. He can't blast me without getting it turned on him, he can't make constructs that I won't absorb, he can't make defenses I can't absorb, his power source itself is absorbed etc.
It makes the rest of the discussion redundant.
I win.
But that makes for a short discussion. So I'll leave it aside for a few moments, in order to address some of his other arguments, and just pretend that's not what I'm doing, for discussion's sake.
Think of it as "speed equalized".
With that said, let's move on to:
a). Defensive constructs
As I said, throughout this talk, I found damborg to be using weird and faulty arguments, both against my character and his. He shows Black Lantern Superman grabbing him by the neck as a random durability feat when we have 'normal' holding back Superman one-shotting him into a concussion with a single strike .
He uses an army of kryptonians, being held back by his shield, but fails to mention that they literally just got their powers at that very moment:
https://i.imgur.com/fVmSugP.jpg
Aquaman and Flash were treating them as hand-ninjas, even as they were getting stronger than what they were initially:
https://i.imgur.com/soZhuU6.jpg
What happens when they get even stronger? Just 1-2 of them are breaking Hal's shield:
https://i.imgur.com/xIVd0ao.jpg
Batman in a mech suit and Aquaman were holding them off by the dozens, even then.
So the question is -- how do Hal's constructs handle Thor using all-out Mjolnir strikes ?
Or ones like this?
https://i.imgur.com/fbOaXzn.jpg
How do they handle lightning the likes of which has staggered CK? Infinity Watch? Glory?
The likes of which have staggered Gorr:
https://i.imgur.com/8lJ0dYe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JDdrBOE.jpg
The likes of which have one-shot Hulk?
https://i.imgur.com/lWZnWXt.jpg
Cosmic hurricanes?
http://i.imgur.com/ag4eCq5.jpg
Anti-force blast?
https://i.imgur.com/XS6wi7e.jpg
How do they handle bullrushes that can shatter Galactus?
https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t/41046472_2925739-thorvssilversurfer16.jpg https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t/41046474_2925740-thorvssilversurfer17.jpg
All of the above simultaneously?
History says - not very well.
https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t/41046525_RCO007.jpg https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t/41046526_RCO008.jpg
For example, how casually can Orion, Thor's closest proxy in DC, crush Hal's constructs?
https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t/41046010_G1WCxDc.jpg https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t/41046011_v2MQ3wW.jpg
This casually. Perhaps he does better in the rematch?
https://i.imgur.com/z85TDmU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VHQBX3p.jpg
No.
b). Offensive constructs
Out of all the examples in the world, he used Hal using a chainsaw to cut a restrained Amazo Red Tornado morphing in Amazo while - literally in the same panel - Batman is using his utility belt laser to do the same thing. I guess Batman would cut Thor's hand off
Damborg also seems to think he's a lumberjack, and Thor will just stand there as constructs try to cut him. Not that Thor's durability against the epitome of cutting in fiction isn't up to par, as Wolverine only gives him scratches:
https://i.imgur.com/p8tXsBW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EcPuVv4.jpg
For comparison, Gladiator:
https://i.imgur.com/Z74v2d3.jpg
Thor can fight with his organs transmutated:
https://i.imgur.com/undefined.jpg
But it won't even get there - constructs don't get the opportunity to hurt me. As I made clear in the first post, I can shatter them with my hammer, with energy projection, I can make forcefields or I can even make an indestructible mystical vortex:
https://imgur.com/XKBvYDl
Or like this:
https://i.imgur.com/hQuwiFO.jpg
If I get hit? Thor is a tough m-fer when he's all out against energy attacks.
Ask Silver Surfer:
https://i.imgur.com/F7FV64e.jpg
Ask Scarlet Witch who can only BFR him:
https://i.imgur.com/5mbko4G.jpg
Ask Celestials:
https://i.imgur.com/cGtTYyp.jpg
Now, after you read all of this, imagine that everything I said I will do is valid, while everything he tries to do is absorbed.
Next: Final post!