Ahl, the God of Superheroes vs CA Superman

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MrMind
who wins

Galan007
Thought-Robot.

Genii96
Was ahl the guy who got K.Od with a brick?

Galan007
^ That single/unique "thinking brick" was Ahl's one and only weakness in all of creation, so it's not really something that could be used against him in your typical battle... It would be exponentially more rare than even Superboy Prime having his weakness to Kryptonite exploited.

The thing with Ahl is that he is basically featless. His greatest 'showing' is the fact that his story/idea/concept gave birth to ALL heroes in DC(including Superman):
https://i.imgur.com/6PDwrxu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HMIJXmh.jpg

He's a fully metafictional entity, but he just... Never did much.

CatL18
In the first place, Ahl is only platonic entity in in-universe stuff.
He can't be true origin of DC universe. It is Superman that everything in DC comes from.
No matter what settings Retco will create, They are still only byproduct of DC universe.

Galan007
All things within the multiverse are centered around Superman, yes... But from a metafictional standpoint, his story still came from *somewhere*, and that's where Ahl comes into play.

Ahl is a denizen from Final Heaven(which is situated far outside/beyond the multiverse.) When he descended down to earth, he created the concept/idea/story of Superman and the other heroes. I assume this is also when creation began situating itself around Supes.

CatL18
Originally posted by Galan007
All things within the multiverse are centered around Superman, yes... But from a metafictional standpoint, his story still came from *somewhere*, and that's where Ahl comes into play.

Ahl is a denizen from Final Heaven(which is situated far outside/beyond the multiverse.) When he descended down to earth, he created the concept/idea/story of Superman and the other heroes. I assume this is also when creation began situating itself around Supes.
I can't agree to some extent.
As long as Ahl and Retco come from somewhere(DC as company), They are still part of entire DC comics which come from Superman.
As Geoff Johns said in his interview, Superman started Superhero comic genre and he is beyond comic genre.

Genii96
Originally posted by Galan007
^ That single/unique "thinking brick" was Ahl's one and only weakness in all of creation, so it's not really something that could be used against him in your typical battle... It would be exponentially more rare than even Superboy Prime having his weakness to Kryptonite exploited.

The thing with Ahl is that he is basically featless. His greatest 'showing' is the fact that his story/idea/concept gave birth to ALL heroes in DC(including Superman):
https://i.imgur.com/6PDwrxu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HMIJXmh.jpg

He's a fully metafictional entity, but he just... Never did much.


Oh, I see, that's quite a weird weakness to have especially since he isn't even from this multiverse.

I may be misremembering, but he was also captured before this by a continuous army of human warriors right? And even when freed, he still didn't do much.

Honestly for a metafictional guy, it's seemed his meta Power only transcribed to birthing superheroes over time, highly disappointing

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