Cin Drallig vs Luminara Unduli

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Bergmar
https://i.imgur.com/PSzVNUf.jpg

DirtyLuna
Cin Drallig was the orders battlemaster but he was still killed with ease by pre suit Vader. I believe his status as battlemaster doesn't mean that he was any more skilled than other Jedi masters as for example Luminara.
He might have known all lightsabre forms but he wasn't really much of a fighter.
Luminara was defeated by Ventress but contended quite evenly.
I'd say Luminara takes this.

Total Warrior

Eli Vanto
Does Drallig have any feats or accolades in canon, aside from getting killed by Anakin?

Galan007
This:
https://i.imgur.com/UCZS7j8.jpg

Though you could argue that it is only referring to Cin being the "finest swordmaster" among the Jedi who were actively defending the Temple at the time of Operation Knightfall... Which doesn't say a whole lot, as the majority of those Jedi were fodder.

Zenwolf
<.<

I don't know why, but I really just wanna punch Hidalgo and Reynolds in the face...I just can't stand the blatant copy and paste they did and just cramming it all into one book and calling it new.

They could have at least worded it differently..

ares834
Originally posted by Galan007
This:
https://i.imgur.com/UCZS7j8.jpg

Though you could argue that it is only referring to Cin being the "finest swordmaster" among the Jedi who were actively defending the Temple at the time of Operation Knightfall... Which doesn't say a whole lot, as the majority of those Jedi were fodder.

It would put him above Shaak which is pretty damn good.

Galan007
True.

I forgot that she was in the Temple during Operation Knightfall, and killed by Anakin

Sheev
I didn't realize that she was killed by Anakin. Thought she was one of the possible survivors as of the Vader comics? confused

Galan007
Shaak Ti's death was confirmed in Galactic Maps:
https://i.imgur.com/Sb1COyG.jpg

She was never listed as a possible survivor in the Vader series. All of the survivors are listed here:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=660804&highlight=title%3A%28survived%29+forumid%3A6

McP
Luminara's showing against Ventress is meaningless, as Cin was stomped by a guy who bested Dooku in less then 15 seconds on screen after he decided to use his anger.

Not sure if Luminara was cosideres as one of the best swordmasters in the Order, but Cin was. And he had to deal with something, that was possibly above Luminara's imagination.

Total Warrior
Why would you, Jedi Master and member of the council, be meditating while the Jedi are bing killed? How useless could you be? I am sure Ti could have at least helped with the evacuation of many more jedi by delaying the clones

Zenwolf
Originally posted by Total Warrior
Why would you, Jedi Master and member of the council, be meditating while the Jedi are bing killed? How useless could you be? I am sure Ti could have at least helped with the evacuation of many more jedi by delaying the clones

I never understood this either, it never made any sense. Probably why it was cut from RoTS. Though I guess Canon is going with it...for some reason. But then I don't recall Ti doing much within the current Canon, so it's whatever I suppose.

Galan007
They should have added a Battle Meditation blurb or somesuch.

Sheev
Originally posted by Galan007
Shaak Ti's death was confirmed in Galactic Maps:
https://i.imgur.com/Sb1COyG.jpg This has been bugging me.

All the Jedi and even the younglings were getting wholesale slaughtered, but Shaak Ti was just chilling in some room meditating during all of that? What a team player. erm

Galan007
Ultimate Star Wars states that she was meditating to create a Holocron that would essentially tell any Jedi survivors to continue trying to build the Order:
https://i.imgur.com/REEPT7J.jpg

Zenwolf
Originally posted by Galan007
Ultimate Star Wars states that she was meditating to create a Holocron that would essentially tell any Jedi survivors to continue trying to build the Order:
https://i.imgur.com/REEPT7J.jpg

.....Ok like that wouldn't be obvious to any surviving Jedi to try and pass on for a new generation? I just....wow.

Her character was far better handled in this situation in previous lore.

Galan007
ikr?

"I'm going to sit here and make a Holocron that will pass on the obvious, while children are being slaughtered in the next room over and the Order is crumbling around me."

What an assh0le. ermm

Zenwolf
Originally posted by Galan007
ikr?

"I'm going to sit here and make a Holocron that will pass on the obvious, while children are being slaughtered in the next room over and the Order is crumbling around me."

What an assh0le. ermm

I can only imagine sometime later a Jedi survivor finding the Holocron.

Jedi: "Oh a Holocron from Jedi Council member Shaak Ti! This will be great, she'll probably have lots of wisdom to share!"

Jedi activates Holocron.

Shaak Ti: "Please! Rebuild the Jedi Order, you have to survive and make sure the Jedi live on!"

Holocron ends.

Jedi stares....stares at the Holocron.

Jedi: ......

Galan007
laughing seriously though... It's pretty f*cking ridiculous.

juggernaut74

McP
How loosing to early TCW Ventress is impressive? Being featless battlemaster is better I guess.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by McP
How loosing to early TCW Ventress is impressive? Being featless battlemaster is better I guess. Good points.

Galan007
Originally posted by Zenwolf
I can only imagine sometime later a Jedi survivor finding the Holocron.

Jedi: "Oh a Holocron from Jedi Council member Shaak Ti! This will be great, she'll probably have lots of wisdom to share!"

Jedi activates Holocron.

Shaak Ti: "Please! Rebuild the Jedi Order, you have to survive and make sure the Jedi live on!"

Holocron ends.

Jedi stares....stares at the Holocron.

Jedi: ...... A bit random, but I just remembered that Shaak Ti's final message was actually shown in the comics:
https://i.imgur.com/GQzk0PL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4KNtDFp.jpg

So yeah, I guess that's how she thought her final moments were best spent while younglings were being massacred around her, lol.

Zenwolf

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