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Ok, so we magically replace Hulk with Wolverine in each of Hulk's fights. Their opponents all fight as they did when they fought Hulk, i.e. if they traded blows with Hulk, they trade blows with Wolverine.

How far does Wolverine get, assuming his opponents all fight the way they do against Hulk? So they don't go intangible (if they can), or stay 2 miles away and spam energy blasts etc. Imagine their most famous fights with Hulk in your head, but now with Logan.

1. Captain America
2. Namor
3. Abomination
4. Thing
5. Rulk (not the latest hour of power version, but back when he could absorb powers; when Hulk was fighting him)
6. Thor (who isn't staying on the other side of the globe and spamming lightning strikes etc, but is fighting like usual, up close and personal. No, against Nul isn't normal).
7. WWH Sentry

I'd put Gladiator but....he's been stabbed.

Where does Logan stop?

He should really stop at Namor going by common sense of just their powerset but...it's Logan so...

I think he puts Abom down but Ben clobbers him. Yeah, he gets to 4, possibly 5.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How far does Wolverine get, assuming his opponents all fight the way they do against Hulk?

So... basically... you want them all to bend over and receive numerous direct hits from adamantium claws, yes? Especially Sentry?

That's the point of this thread? vin

Well....I mean.....Hulk has some of the best fight records in comics.

I want to see what happens if someone similar (massive damage output, HF, no flight or energy attacks or superspeed) can do in his shoes.

Wolverine is too deadly tbh. You can even add Mongul, Kalibak, Damage, etc... and have them fight like they were portrayed in comics and he would still stomp and fsr easily than most Heralds. Wolverine is just that haxxed.

So Wolverine would be herald level iyo?

The big difference is that Hulk uses blunt force while Wolverine uses cutting/piercing, suspension of disbeliefe might let you buy that Cap can get pummeled by Hulk over like 2-3 pages but not really getting dismembered by Wolverine over the same length.

Wait...so he gets hit with the same punches and he gets the same hits that Hulk got in on them?
Because anytime Hulk punched any of them in the face would be a one shot for logan

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Wait...so he gets hit with the same punches and he gets the same hits that Hulk got in on them?
Because anytime Hulk punched any of them in the face would be a one shot for logan

Lots of CIS and PIS in Hulk's fights, I agree.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Wait...so he gets hit with the same punches and he gets the same hits that Hulk got in on them?
Because anytime Hulk punched any of them in the face would be a one shot for logan

You could replace them with any of the heros villains. Thor, Superman, Wonder Woman, Hulk etc... if they are fighting anywhere close to the way they fought any of the heros i mentioned above and they can be cut and doesnt possess a crazy healing factor, Wolverine is beating them.

Please stop mentioning other characters unless they have showings against the ones named here in canon admissible comics, please.

I get some of you are super salty, but please not here. I want to avoid the usual DC suspects in here, so let's make mine Marvel please.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Wait...so he gets hit with the same punches and he gets the same hits that Hulk got in on them?
Because anytime Hulk punched any of them in the face would be a one shot for logan

Precisely.

And Thing, fyi, got his ass handed to him by Logan numerous times. He's like the worst choice here.

Worst choice for a slugfest, I agree. But then, arguably, getting into a slugfest with Hulk is also the stupidest thing to do.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Worst choice for a slugfest, I agree. But then, arguably, getting into a slugfest with Hulk is also the stupidest thing to do. I agree but still
Originally posted by Parmaniac
suspension of disbeliefe might let you buy that Cap can get pummeled by Hulk over like 2-3 pages but not really getting dismembered by Wolverine over the same length.

If characters don't fight smart against Wolverine they usually would or actually end up like in the What if... where Wolverine is a Hydra Agent.

Or in any other What if involving Wolverine, lol.

Those bubs get snikted.

Sounds like PIS, really. For the sake of plot, Cap can fight the Hulk for 2-3 pages etc.

But that's why it's a gauntlet. Surely there's a point where slugging it out will stop being effective?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok, so we magically replace Hulk with Wolverine in each of Hulk's fights. Their opponents all fight as they did when they fought Hulk, i.e. if they traded blows with Hulk, they trade blows with Wolverine.

How far does Wolverine get, assuming his opponents all fight the way they do against Hulk? So they don't go intangible (if they can), or stay 2 miles away and spam energy blasts etc. Imagine their most famous fights with Hulk in your head, but now with Logan.

1. Captain America
2. Namor
3. Abomination
4. Thing
5. Rulk (not the latest hour of power version, but back when he could absorb powers; when Hulk was fighting him)
6. Thor (who isn't staying on the other side of the globe and spamming lightning strikes etc, but is fighting like usual, up close and personal. No, against Nul isn't normal).
7. WWH Sentry

I'd put Gladiator but....he's been stabbed.

Where does Logan stop?


your order is weird...thing should be 2, Namor 3, Abom 4. He shouldnt beat Namor...but he potentially could, wont get past Abom but makes him works for it and has no chance against Rulk etc

Even in a pure slugfest?

And Thing was where he was just based on the sheer number of fights he's had with Hulk. But sure we could bump things around.

I assume he would have no chance against Thor and WWH Sentry either then? Assuming they all fight as they do against Hulk.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Even in a pure slugfest?

And Thing was where he was just based on the sheer number of fights he's had with Hulk. But sure we could bump things around.

I assume he would have no chance against Thor and WWH Sentry either then? Assuming they all fight as they do against Hulk.

wait...so his claws are sheathed?

Well...slugging with his claws lol.

Basically everyone's punching like it's a comic.

Maybe stop at 2. Definitely stops at 3.

Steve Rogers has the only real chance here.

He was the only one who tried hard not to get tagged in his fights against the Hulk.

The rest? They get quite literally turned into pin cushions.

Against the heavy hitters Logan gets KO'ed, but no further damage beyond that, Namor has one shotted him before.

Never happened.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Never happened. Yes it did, Logan stabbed Namor in the shoulder and Namor remarked to Logan that you have to hit a vital organ, then Subby put his lights out with one punch.

Wolverine never stabbed Namor in the shoulder.

You haven't read that story arc in years, have you?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wolverine never stabbed Namor in the shoulder.

You haven't read that story arc in years, have you? I know what I read when I read it, prove it never happened.

Originally posted by lawest9
I know what I read when I read it, prove it never happened.

You know nothing, judging from your posts.

Wolverine's healing factor was depleted from getting reduced to a bare skeleton by Nitro's self-explosion (who was amped at the time, btw).

After that, he fought Nitro and Namor's Royal Guard.

When Namor arrived, he still needed to land numerous hits instead of a single one, as you're claiming.

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One-shot happens when a fresh opponent gets knocked out in a single hit. Wolverine was messed up in every way possible, with his healing factor maxed out.

And he still would've killed Namor if not for his Royal Guard which tried to save him.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You know nothing, judging from your posts.

Wolverine's healing factor was depleted from getting reduced to a bare skeleton by Nitro's self-explosion (who was amped at the time, btw).

After that, he fought Nitro and Namor's Royal Guard.

When Namor arrived, he still needed to land numerous hits instead of a single one, as you're claiming.

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One-shot happens when a fresh opponent gets knocked out in a single hit. Wolverine was messed up in every way possible, with his healing factor maxed out.

And he still would've killed Namor if not for his Royal Guard which tried to save him. Here we go jerky, one hit or more.

https://images.app.goo.gl/pFjnoWFCik6bFxty9

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
One-shot happens when a fresh opponent gets knocked out in a single hit. Wolverine was messed up in every way possible, with his healing factor maxed out.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well...slugging with his claws lol.

Basically everyone's punching like it's a comic.

Ok then my post still stands

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Even so I can accept that if not for the fact that you have a tendency to make Logan out to be the be all and end all of everything, max out or not he still wasn't going to win that fight with Namor.

Originally posted by lawest9
Against the heavy hitters Logan gets KO'ed, but no further damage beyond that, Namor has one shotted him before.

Namor's not fighting him like he fought Logan in the past.

He's fighting him like he fights the Hulk. So if the Hulk ever managedeto punch him in the face,Logan arguably does too (based on his speed).

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Namor's not fighting him like he fought Logan in the past.

He's fighting him like he fights the Hulk. So if the Hulk ever managedeto punch him in the face,Logan arguably does too (based on his speed). Even so it's not going to hurt Namor like Hulk hitting him, Logan's best chance against the heavy hitters would be his speed and claws.

Originally posted by lawest9
Even so I can accept that if not for the fact that you have a tendency to make Logan out to be the be all and end all of everything, max out or not he still wasn't going to win that fight with Namor.

They are like 1 and 1

Originally posted by lawest9
Even so I can accept that if not for the fact that you have a tendency to make Logan out to be the be all and end all of everything, max out or not he still wasn't going to win that fight with Namor.

Why?

He beat Namor in the past and dropped him in the fight you're referencing just fine, before Namor got saved by his people.

Royal Guard interfered and allowed Namor to recover and cheapshot Logan from behind.


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Goes easy on Namor first, choosing to fight him with his claws sheathed:

https://i.ibb.co/QpwYQVK/wolvamor01.jpg

Takes an uppercut punch just fine and trips Namor up:

https://i.ibb.co/jVTGfd2/wolvamor02.jpg

Takes an elbow strike from Namor and gets up again:

https://i.ibb.co/wLVJMvJ/wolvamor03.jpg

Uses his claws for the first time against Namor, momentarily dropping him:

https://i.ibb.co/rbr0PH5/wolvamor04.jpg

Namor manages to get up only thanks to the distraction provided by Janus:

https://i.ibb.co/wNxqvdV/wolvamor05.jpg

Took him whole nine panels.



Let me get this straight.

You want Wolverine in this thread to:

get reduced to a skeleton,

fight Nitro and Atlantean Royal Guard,

fight Namor while holding back,

eventually lose by a cheapshot when preoccupied with others?

Originally posted by lawest9
Even so it's not going to hurt Namor like Hulk hitting him, Logan's best chance against the heavy hitters would be his speed and claws.

No wait you're getting it wrong (and maybe others too).

His claws are out. Slashy slashy stabby stabby. He's slugging it out with his claws extended, out.

This fight, only Logan replaces Hulk:

https://imgur.com/gallery/bpTAXOQ

Or if you prefer your comics mor modern:

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11128/111284868/5813628-hulk%201.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11128/111284868/5813629-hulk%202.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11128/111284868/5813630-hulk%203.jpg

Except it is instead of a Hulk, it's a hairy little Canadian with his claws out.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This fight, only Logan replaces Hulk:

https://imgur.com/gallery/bpTAXOQ

The first strike that Hulk delivers here is a cheapshot, so let's ignore it.

Wolverine - even in a terrible state - can easily take two attacks from Namor, as shown above.

After that, it's Wolverine's turn.

So he grabs Namor's head (as that's what Hulk did) and either decapitates him or - if it's a mere glancing blow - slits his throat.

Game over.

Yeah. If all these guys fight Wolverine like they fought Hulk, I say he has a good chance of clearing.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Yeah. If all these guys fight Wolverine like they fought Hulk, I say he has a good chance of clearing.

No, he doesn't.

Wolverine isn't Hulk. He doesn't have the physical strength nor fast enough of a healing factor to compete with some of the people on the list.
I'd argue that even Namor is strong enough to grab Wolverine and then just keep him in place until Wolverine yields.

What might not work against the Hulk, will work against Wolverine every single time:
https://i.imgur.com/sy3urGj.jpg

Originally posted by Enzeru
No, he doesn't.

Wolverine isn't Hulk. He doesn't have the physical strength nor fast enough of a healing factor to compete with some of the people on the list.
I'd argue that even Namor is strong enough to grab Wolverine and then just keep him in place until Wolverine yields.

What might not work against the Hulk, will work against Wolverine every single time:
https://i.imgur.com/sy3urGj.jpg

They're not grabbing Logan's hands in this gauntlet.

They're fighting him like they do against the Hulk. So for example, in WWH, if Sentry grabbed Hulk's hands and held him in place then he can do so here.

But if he flew into Hulk and traded punches, then that's what happens here.

Of course, Sentry being the last in the gauntlet makes him the toughest and most debatable.

So against Namor, for example, it would go like this:

Wolverine hits Namor full in the chest.

https://i.postimg.cc/jSBr8L0Z/main-qimg-701705f22b4eacc37173a485586eb097.jpg

Then they trade blows, so Logan is stabbing Namor some more.

Would Namor recover in time to deliver a blow to Wolverine's head? When injured like he would be from a full stab, would it even be effective? Then Wolverine can keep fighting.

Against WWH Sentry, Sentry will speed blitz Wolverine, smashing him through buildings etc....would Logan recover in time for the panel where Hulk punches SEntry square in the head? ('Whatever happens next....is on your head, bub')
https://imgur.com/a/C31HP

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Would Namor recover in time to deliver a blow to Wolverine's head? When injured like he would be from a full stab, would it even be effective? Then Wolverine can keep fighting.

That strike would probably result in a far worse injury, tbh. Dicing him in two, even.

Fun fact: Pre-FA Logan (impaired by the mind-control) took a kick to the head from Namor with no trouble (and a punch to the face prior to it).

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Against WWH Sentry, Sentry will speed blitz Wolverine, smashing him through buildings etc....would Logan recover in time for the panel where Hulk punches SEntry square in the head? ('Whatever happens next....is on your head, bub')
https://imgur.com/a/C31HP

The best I can think of atm is when Gladiator flew through a building or two at high speed to get Logan off him in the Earthfall mini.

While he *did* manage to get rid of him in the end, Logan wasn't bothered one bit by that.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That strike would probably result in a far worse injury, tbh. Dicing him in two, even.

Fun fact: Pre-FA Logan (impaired by the mind-control) took a kick to the head from Namor with no trouble (and a punch to the face prior to it).



The best I can think of atm is when Gladiator flew through a building or two at high speed to get Logan off him in the Earthfall mini.

While he *did* manage to get rid of him in the end, Logan wasn't bothered one bit by that.

Logan has also been punted into Georgia (the European country, not the state), so...

Against Abomination:
https://i.postimg.cc/MKrRPNz1/RCO007-1485893076.jpg
....
https://i.postimg.cc/2SbWPG5M/RCO008-1485893076.jpg

It probably ends in that first panel.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Logan has also been punted into Georgia (the European country, not the state), so...

By Inhuman Gorgon, true.

But I was trying to think of specific instances when he got tackled through numerous concrete walls and such, similar to Sentry/WWH.

It also involved some of Sentry's unique energy radiation, so it's impossible to exactly replicate that, though.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Against Abomination:


It probably ends in that first panel.

Yeah, but it's not fair as Emil was busy with Jean and Hulk blindsided him.

Including cheapshots, this battle could end in the first panel here, too:

https://imgur.com/gallery/bpTAXOQ

Lol. I thought that...but from the angle, it looks like Hulk was jumping directly over Abom, whilst approaching directly head on.

That's......kinda weird if you don't see a giant green Hulk doing that.

He was pissed at Jean and all that energy from her forcefield could have obscured his vision. Plus, Hulk can leap pretty fast.

He's still finishing his sentence when Hulk grabs his head.

Sure, it's not an ideal cheapshot, but it's a battle between Class 100 behemoths --- they are not as perceptive as the likes of Captain America or Batman.

Stops at Namor. Namor has the common sense to try to grab Logan's wrists to prevent him from hurting him. Namor has a few pretty good speed feats.

Originally posted by h1a8
Stops at Namor. Namor has the common sense to try to grab Logan's wrists to prevent him from hurting him. Namor has a few pretty good speed feats.

Namor isn't fighting him like he fights Logan.

He is fighting him like he fights Hulk.

Originally posted by h1a8
Stops at Namor. Namor has the common sense to try to grab Logan's wrists to prevent him from hurting him. Namor has a few pretty good speed feats.

1) Wolverine is faster than Namor.

2) You didn't get this thread at all.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He was pissed at Jean and all that energy from her forcefield could have obscured his vision. Plus, Hulk can leap pretty fast.

He's still finishing his sentence when Hulk grabs his head.

Sure, it's not an ideal cheapshot, but it's a battle between Class 100 behemoths --- they are not as perceptive as the likes of Captain America or Batman.

Fair does. You think Wolverine can't leap as fast as Hulk?


I am considering that perhaps WWH/Thing's fight is the best chance for stopping Wolverine, actually:

https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/image37.jpeg
....

https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/image38.jpeg

Three full on shots from Ben. IF Wolverine can take those three, then he wins with a double claw stab to the head.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fair does. You think Wolverine can't leap as fast as Hulk?


I am considering that perhaps WWH/Thing's fight is the best chance for stopping Wolverine, actually:

*skip*
....

*skip*

Three full on shots from Ben. IF Wolverine can take those three, then he wins with a double claw stab to the head.

Well, if Wolverine just had to take Human Torch's nova attack and Storm's lightning (as WWH did), then he's in some serious trouble.

Other than that, three shots shouldn't be too much; he' taken more punches from WWH himself and several hits from a demonically possessed Sasquatch (and we all agreed on this forum how demonic possession enhances one's strength).

Strength and durability get a little too high at number 5 and up.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Well, if Wolverine just had to take Human Torch's nova attack and Storm's lightning (as WWH did), then he's in some serious trouble.

Other than that, three shots shouldn't be too much; he' taken more punches from WWH himself and several hits from a demonically possessed Sasquatch (and we all agreed on this forum how demonic possession enhances one's strength).

True. Hulk recovered pretty quickly from the Nova and the lightning....

Originally posted by Booya_69
Strength and durability get a little too high at number 5 and up.

It does indeed.

HOWEVER, this is the fight that Hulk won against Rulk:

https://i.postimg.cc/TK3sHWqV/RCO007.jpg
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https://i.postimg.cc/kBcZcy8M/RCO008.jpg
.....
https://i.postimg.cc/nMqNsxhD/RCO009.jpg
......
https://i.postimg.cc/bs8Wk5ZF/RCO010.jpg

So in THIS fight, Wolverine will (try to) bullrush Rulk (lol), get punched in the face by Rulk, attempt to bearhug (lol) Rulk, before getting headbutted.

If Wolverine can live through the punch and the headbutt....he punches Rulk what looks like three, four? full on stabs into Rulk's head. Which IMO he can, and means he gets past Rulk.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
1) Wolverine is faster than Namor.

2) You didn't get this thread at all.

Namor has a speed feat that's above anything Logan has ever done.
And one blow from Namor would stun Logan enough for Namor to easily restrain Logan. Then Logan would be helpless.
Stops at Namor.

Originally posted by h1a8
Namor has a speed feat that's above anything Logan has ever done.
And one blow from Namor would stun Logan enough for Namor to easily restrain Logan. Then Logan would be helpless.
Stops at Namor.

This is the fight, replace Hulk with Logan:
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11128/111284868/5813628-hulk%201.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11128/111284868/5813629-hulk%202.jpg

As you can see, Logan will get to stab Namor first.

Or here:
https://imgur.com/gallery/bpTAXOQ

As you can see, Logan will stab Namor in the head first.

Originally posted by h1a8
Namor has a speed feat that's above anything Logan has ever done.
And one blow from Namor would stun Logan enough for Namor to easily restrain Logan. Then Logan would be helpless.
Stops at Namor.

No, he doesn't.

Impartial narrator already told us that Wolverine has the speed advantage.

A single hit from Namor never did the trick; you would know that if you read their fights.

PS. You still don't understand the point and rules of this thread. Go back to the original post.

DarkSaint tried to explain it to you more than once, but you are too obtuse to understand, h1 (dementia, perhaps?).

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This is the fight, replace Hulk with Logan:
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11128/111284868/5813628-hulk%201.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11128/111284868/5813629-hulk%202.jpg

As you can see, Logan will get to stab Namor first.

Or here:
https://imgur.com/gallery/bpTAXOQ

As you can see, Logan will stab Namor in the head first.

No he won't because Major would easily grab Logan's wrists easier than he caught those mach 3 missiles.

Originally posted by h1a8
No he won't because Major would easily grab Logan's wrists easier than he caught those mach 3 missiles.

You still don't understand.

Namor HAS to fight Logan exactly the same way as he does against the Hulk.

He is.... however you want to imagine it. Mindcontrolled, or PIS, whatever - but he is moving and fighting as he did against Hulk.

If he tries to kick the Hulk in my scans, then he will try to kick Logan in this thread.

If he picked a boulder up and tried to throw it at Hulk, he'll do so here.

If he DIDN'T grab Hulk's wrists, he's not grabbing them here. If Thor didn't Godblast Hulk, he doesn't Godblast here.

You already said it 10 times.

There is a good reason why h1 is despised more than Bazie or Carv.

Let's not exaggerate.

I wish I were exaggerating.

Check out the Movie Vs. Forum or read some of his posts when he was a regular visitor in our section.

Sorry

Originally posted by h1a8
He caught mach 3 missiles. Logan swings wayyy slower than that.

But he didn't catch or attempt to catch Hulk's fists.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I wish I were exaggerating.

Check out the Movie Vs. Forum or read some of his posts when he was a regular visitor in our section.

I'm only despised by Marvel bias idiots. Not objecive intellectual individuals.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But he didn't catch or attempt to catch Hulk's fists. You right. That's why I posted sorry before this post.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm only despised by Marvel bias idiots. Not objecive intellectual individuals.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/18/0e/a7/180ea7792da2151bc12fc09c2b89aaeb.gif

Bump

Originally posted by carver9
You could replace them with any of the heros villains. Thor, Superman, Wonder Woman, Hulk etc... if they are fighting anywhere close to the way they fought any of the heros i mentioned above and they can be cut and doesnt possess a crazy healing factor, Wolverine is beating them.

This and yes, I feel he can stomp DOS Doomsday as well.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Please stop mentioning other characters unless they have showings against the ones named here in canon admissible comics, please.

I get some of you are super salty, but please not here. I want to avoid the usual DC suspects in here, so let's make mine Marvel please.

Wait, you mentioned WWH in my Wolverine thread and he had nothing to do with the thread but you feel some type of way when I mention a different character? Gotcha

He was a brick who has caught Logan, despite Logan being written well.

How is that nothing to do with the thread? You are bringing up characters who aren't even in the same company, lmao.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok, so we magically replace Hulk with Wolverine in each of Hulk's fights. Their opponents all fight as they did when they fought Hulk, i.e. if they traded blows with Hulk, they trade blows with Wolverine.

How far does Wolverine get, assuming his opponents all fight the way they do against Hulk? So they don't go intangible (if they can), or stay 2 miles away and spam energy blasts etc. Imagine their most famous fights with Hulk in your head, but now with Logan.

1. Captain America
2. Namor
3. Abomination
4. Thing
5. Rulk (not the latest hour of power version, but back when he could absorb powers; when Hulk was fighting him)
6. Thor (who isn't staying on the other side of the globe and spamming lightning strikes etc, but is fighting like usual, up close and personal. No, against Nul isn't normal).
7. WWH Sentry

I'd put Gladiator but....he's been stabbed.

Where does Logan stop?

You realize that Namor should be swapped with the Thing right? Anyway, Wolverine in a furiously berserk state probably stops at Sentry. However, they all possess enough power to immobilize him if they used the environment. If he's on his a game he stops at Sentry, otherwise Namor who should be swapped with Ben, because Wolverine would bury Ben in most situations.

They don't get to immobilize him, if they didn't try to immobilize the Hulk.

They fight Logan the EXACT way they tried to fight Hulk.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They don't get to immobilize him, if they didn't try to immobilize the Hulk.

They fight Logan the EXACT way they tried to fight Hulk.

Size, speed, tactics, and several other things factor in though. This hasn't much to do with anything, but I'm going to mention it anyway. I had friends that used to play the Marvel RPG board game, and would read up on the characters. Because of Wolverine's skeletal strength and healing factor, and fighting skills, his attacks stopped just shy of Beyond which had him landing attacks that would score within the Shift Z zone. This meant that he could hurt Galactus level opponents with his strikes. If we were to translate that into how hard he could strike the naked skin of a super powered Earth character, or the characters that are within this thread, we'd be looking at a bunch of characters with no limbs, or missing heads.

Good thread.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85


Namor HAS to fight Logan exactly the same way as he does against the Hulk.



Flight offers some advantage, but not enough if environment is featureless and waterless, yes.

And Wolverine's claws can potentially stab deep through the likes of Hulk, Gladiator, IG Thanos... and Namor.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Flight offers some advantage, but not enough if environment is featureless and waterless, yes.

And Wolverine's claws can potentially stab deep through the likes of Hulk, Gladiator, IG Thanos... and Namor. It's quite peculiar, because if you takes out Hulk and put Wolverine in and the opponents have to do face them the same way, in almost all of them, the fights would be over quicker. It's a struggle to really see much of a difference in effectiveness, dare I say the difference would lean a surprising way. It's essentially switching unbreakable, unstoppable, one-shotting claws with hitting hard.

Yes, DS has made yet another good thread.

He stared as a junior kmc nobody and now he's... a genuine senior with some great achievements.

You can always use claws at their worst and so on... but even then, you'd need to use the healing factor/skeleton at their worst... and sometimes, Wolverine can no-sell WonderMan/Sentry-level hits and still react fast to surprise Captain f*cking America...

So yeah, good thread.

I should add more to the list.

This time, the combatants are famed for their versatility.

1. Hercules (shut up. He's here, deal with it)
2. The FF, with Reed trying to use expensive whiskey and maple syrup to calm Wolverine down first
3. Iron Man in his WWH Hulkbuster suit
4. Silver Surfer
5. Dr ZomStrange

Reminds me of my Wolverine vs Superman rogue thread where he carves through them with ease (the one where you tried to paint a pic of Kalibak being as fast as a Flash, hilarious).

Indeed. And didn't you try to get all snippy and ask posters to stay on topic?

Anyways, what is your view on these fights?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Anyways, what is your view on these fights? https://c.tenor.com/sTyvKEPNw_AAAAAC/desert-dryland.gif

Carver's brain is like an actual mirror at this point.

I guess people acknowledge the truth - that Hulk's opponents fight like idiots when they face him, and Logan in the same situation would one shot them.

The fact they ONLY seem to fight like idiots when they face him, points to PIS for his fights

What if Wolverine wasn't going easy on Hulk?

https://i.ibb.co/RzSLGpS/wi1.png

https://i.ibb.co/m8sDWN5/wi2.png

https://i.ibb.co/Gp2hZ5z/wi3.png

Then a new divergent reality exists, where StiltmanFTW is the KMCs premier expert on Hulk, and Carver9 spams useless crap about Wolverine.

Iron Fist would obviously tank the claws due to immortality and healing factor.

Stops at Rulk. Rulk has the damage soak to endure long enough to ko or grab Logan. If not then Thor definitely does.

So Rulk or Thor (leaning Rulk though

Did Rulk try grabbing Hulk?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Did Rulk try grabbing Hulk? Yes I thought he did. I could be mistaken though.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
True. Hulk recovered pretty quickly from the Nova and the lightning....



It does indeed.

HOWEVER, this is the fight that Hulk won against Rulk:

https://i.postimg.cc/TK3sHWqV/RCO007.jpg
....
https://i.postimg.cc/kBcZcy8M/RCO008.jpg
.....
https://i.postimg.cc/nMqNsxhD/RCO009.jpg
......
https://i.postimg.cc/bs8Wk5ZF/RCO010.jpg

So in THIS fight, Wolverine will (try to) bullrush Rulk (lol), get punched in the face by Rulk, attempt to bearhug (lol) Rulk, before getting headbutted.

If Wolverine can live through the punch and the headbutt....he punches Rulk what looks like three, four? full on stabs into Rulk's head. Which IMO he can, and means he gets past Rulk.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you are saying the fight acts out EXACTLY like the comic fight did?

Yes, as my OP states. Exactly.

If Hulk's opponent tried to spin into the air and do a tornado kick against Hulk, then they fight exactly the same way as against Logan.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You still don't understand.

Namor HAS to fight Logan exactly the same way as he does against the Hulk.

He is.... however you want to imagine it. Mindcontrolled, or PIS, whatever - but he is moving and fighting as he did against Hulk.

If he tries to kick the Hulk in my scans, then he will try to kick Logan in this thread.

If he picked a boulder up and tried to throw it at Hulk, he'll do so here.

If he DIDN'T grab Hulk's wrists, he's not grabbing them here. If Thor didn't Godblast Hulk, he doesn't Godblast here.

Originally posted by h1a8
So you are saying the fight acts out EXACTLY like the comic fight did?

HE'S BEEN EXPLAINING THAT TO YOU FOR A WHOLE YEAR IN THE SAME THREAD:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Namor isn't fighting him like he fights Logan.

He is fighting him like he fights Hulk.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, as my OP states. Exactly.

If Hulk's opponent tried to spin into the air and do a tornado kick against Hulk, then they fight exactly the same way as against Logan. But how would that work exactly? If Rulk punches Logan in the face then Logan would be hit far away and dazed (vs Hulk not being hit away at all or dazed). So would Rulk wait for Logan to become undazed and get back to the battlefield and get back on queue? Or would Rulk run up to Logan and change the events or get back on queue?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
HE'S BEEN EXPLAINING THAT TO YOU FOR A WHOLE YEAR IN THE SAME THREAD:
He should have stated "fought" and not "fights".
He should have stated that they act out that particular comic fight exactly (like actors in a movie). Each remembers their script and exact order of actions.

Fighting him like he fights Hulk is unclear. That could mean he chooses to go h2h instead of stay away and used long ranged attacks.

Then you would have to prove that Logan would've been hit far away- I know Hulk outweighs him, but Rulk is the guy who brawls with gods etc. Even if Hulk weighed 10tons (he doesn't), Rulk would've knocked him far away if he used the kind of fighting you describe.

Not to mention you'd have to prove Logan would be dazed when Hulk wasn't.

Originally posted by h1a8
He should have stated "fought" and not "fights".
He should have stated that they act out that particular comic fight exactly (like actors in a movie). Each remembers their script and exact order of actions.

Or maybe you should have used your brain?

Originally posted by h1a8
He should have stated "fought" and not "fights".
He should have stated that they act out that particular comic fight exactly (like actors in a movie). Each remembers their script and exact order of actions.

Fighting him like he fights Hulk is unclear. That could mean he chooses to go h2h instead of stay away and used long ranged attacks.

I literally said imagine their most famous fights with Hulk, only with Wolverine in my op.

Plus you asked a year or so ago and I explained.

PlUS I literally said fought instead of fights:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then you would have to prove that Logan would've been hit far away- I know Hulk outweighs him, but Rulk is the guy who brawls with gods etc. Even if Hulk weighed 10tons (he doesn't), Rulk would've knocked him far away if he used the kind of fighting you describe.

Not to mention you'd have to prove Logan would be dazed when Hulk wasn't. Logan is lighter than Hulk. Therefore he gets hit far away. Less mass equals more acceleration under the same force.

Rulk not hitting Hulk away is either
1. Stupid writing

Or

2. Rulk hitting Hulk less than with less than 10 tons of force. I heard thst an elite boxer can punch with over 700psi. That is over 4000lb of force (more than 20x the weight). Yet the struck opponent doesn't get hit far away.

Now I could be wrong about that figure as I haven't seen anyone measure Tysons or another elite boxer's punch

Hulk wasn't hit away, so either it was PIS or Rulk didn't want him to fly away.

In any case, Logan doesn't fly away here, as Rulk didn't punch Hulk away. There you go, question answered.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hulk wasn't hit away, so either it was PIS or Rulk didn't want him to fly away.

In any case, Logan doesn't fly away here, as Rulk didn't punch Hulk away. There you go, question answered.

I gave the 2 possible reasons. You ignored them.

I said

1. Stupid writing

Or

2. Rulk hit Hulk with less than 10 tons of force.


I'm not going to assume stupid writing physics is the way things are going to get played out in a forum fight. I'm going to assume Logan flies far away just like the many many times he flew away in comics from being hit by a strong being.

Originally posted by h1a8
I gave the 2 possible reasons. You ignored them.

I said

1. Stupid writing

Or

2. Rulk hit Hulk with less than 10 tons of force.


I'm not going to assume stupid writing physics is the way things are going to get played out in a forum fight. I'm going to assume Logan flies far away just like the many many times he flew away in comics from being hit by a strong being.

I didn't ignore them.

I agreed with you,and said it was one of them (or both).

The mechanics may differ, but if it was present in the comic, it is present here. My thread, my rules - if you aren't a fan of them, then feel free not to post, lol.
If your assertion is that the fights that Hulk has is bad writing, then sure, that is one conclusion one could draw.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I didn't ignore them.

I agreed with you,and said it was one of them (or both).

The mechanics may differ, but if it was present in the comic, it is present here. My thread, my rules - if you aren't a fan of them, then feel free not to post, lol.
If your assertion is that the fights that Hulk has is bad writing, then sure, that is one conclusion one could draw.
Adding stips well after the thread was created I see.
Characters feet are glued to the ground no matter how hard they are hit. Well then.


What's the purpose of the thread? Really? Is there some hidden objective? I honestly don't see the point of this thread or what truth it is trying to uncover.

For example, Logan punches Rulk or Thor in the eye with his claws. Now Rulk or Thor can't see. How in the hell do they continue the same way? Plus Logan is way shorter than Rulk. Not sure if his claws would even reach Rulk Head.

Basically I'm cool with whatever. Just tell me what interesting truth the thread is trying to uncover. You can pm me if it's meant to be a secret from some people.

How do any of them really win? They are just taking continuous stabs to the face. Honestly Cap has the best chance of a victory here and I dont think he can put Logan down. Maybe he has before, but I cant remember.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok, so we magically replace Hulk with Wolverine in each of Hulk's fights. Their opponents all fight as they did when they fought Hulk, i.e. if they traded blows with Hulk, they trade blows with Wolverine.

How far does Wolverine get, assuming his opponents all fight the way they do against Hulk? So they don't go intangible (if they can), or stay 2 miles away and spam energy blasts etc. Imagine their most famous fights with Hulk in your head, but now with Logan.

1. Captain America
2. Namor
3. Abomination
4. Thing
5. Rulk (not the latest hour of power version, but back when he could absorb powers; when Hulk was fighting him)
6. Thor (who isn't staying on the other side of the globe and spamming lightning strikes etc, but is fighting like usual, up close and personal. No, against Nul isn't normal).
7. WWH Sentry

I'd put Gladiator but....he's been stabbed.

Where does Logan stop?

Logan had to stab Hulk in the throat over and over again, they all win.

They weren't stabs, they were cuts.

But you never could tell the difference - because your intellect is comparable with that of carver.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They weren't stabs, they were cuts.

But you never could tell the difference - because your intellect is comparable with that of carver.

That just proves he couldn't stab him.


Everyone still wins.

No, it just proves you're an idiot.

As if we needed any more confirmation.

PS. You have six different types of cancer.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No, it just proves you're an idiot.

As if we needed any more confirmation.

PS. You have six different types of cancer.

So why didn't Wolverine stab Hulk?


Because he couldn't, clearly. Scratches are the best he could do.

Because cuts from weapons that slice through anything are much more effective than stabs, duh.

Few scratches can't kill you, especially not when you have a beastly damage soak, a healing factor and a neck bigger than your sister's ass.

What does Hulk's durability have to do with this?

He has stabbed Namor et al plenty of times.

You needed 6 pages in order to explain things for h1.

Now you're gonna need 600 for cdtm.

Originally posted by h1a8
Adding stips well after the thread was created I see.
Characters feet are glued to the ground no matter how hard they are hit. Well then.


What's the purpose of the thread? Really? Is there some hidden objective? I honestly don't see the point of this thread or what truth it is trying to uncover.

For example, Logan punches Rulk or Thor in the eye with his claws. Now Rulk or Thor can't see. How in the hell do they continue the same way? Plus Logan is way shorter than Rulk. Not sure if his claws would even reach Rulk Head.

Basically I'm cool with whatever. Just tell me what interesting truth the thread is trying to uncover. You can pm me if it's meant to be a secret from some people.

Eh? I always did say that the fights are as depicted when they fought the Hulk; only, instead of the Hulk punching, it is Logan; instead of kicking Hulk, they kick Logan (if it happened).

Not sure how this is a 'new stip'.

I even clarified on page 2 of this thread, well within the limits as described in forum rules:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well...slugging with his claws lol.

Basically everyone's punching like it's a comic.

Only, instead of someone being punched by the Hulk, one is being punched by Logan with his claws extended fully.

As for the 'hidden truth'?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well....I mean.....Hulk has some of the best fight records in comics.

I want to see what happens if someone similar (massive damage output, HF, no flight or energy attacks or superspeed) can do in his shoes.

Page 1.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What does Hulk's durability have to do with this?

He has stabbed Namor et al plenty of times.

PIS.

Logan himself said Hulk was too tough for his claws, and the best he did on Thor was to scratch his arms.

Originally posted by cdtm
PIS.

Logan himself said Hulk was too tough for his claws, and the best he did on Thor was to scratch his arms.

WWH was too tough. Not 'normal' Hulk. Wolverine has stabbed him plenty of times. But again - what does Hulk have to do with Namor's durability? Thing's?

And as for Thor, Thor himself said that he wouldn't last long against Logan.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
WWH was too tough. Not 'normal' Hulk. Wolverine has stabbed him plenty of times. But again - what does Hulk have to do with Namor's durability? Thing's?

And as for Thor, Thor himself said that he wouldn't last long against Logan.

I'm talking about Logan's first meeting with Hulk. The one the What If riffed off of.


Hulk's skin was too durable, according to Logan's thought captions.

Originally posted by cdtm
I'm talking about Logan's first meeting with Hulk. The one the What If riffed off of.


Hulk's skin was too durable, according to Logan's thought captions.

OK cool.

In any case, my post still stands. Logan has stabbed Hulk plenty of times, not that Hulk's attributes transfer to Namor et al.

H1 DID have a point, which is, what conclusions can we draw from this thread?

For me, it appears:

1. A lot of Hulk's fights are stupid, in terms of the characters. As Smurph said, unless Logan's claws are invisible, Cap should dodge. But then, the Hulk's fists aren't invisible, and none of these opponents usually dodge. If fighting Logan in h2h is stupid, surely fighting Hulk in h2h is also stupid?

2. No one, up until now, has said that Logan is too slow to enact his attacks. Does that mean Logan and Hulk are similar in speed?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Eh? I always did say that the fights are as depicted when they fought the Hulk; only, instead of the Hulk punching, it is Logan; instead of kicking Hulk, they kick Logan (if it happened).

Not sure how this is a 'new stip'.

I even clarified on page 2 of this thread, well within the limits as described in forum rules:



Only, instead of someone being punched by the Hulk, one is being punched by Logan with his claws extended fully.

As for the 'hidden truth'?



Page 1.

You only clarified the actions the characters will make, you didn't add stupid physics to the fight. Namor punching Logan (particular action) is totally different than saying Logan feet is glued to the ground and can't move no matter how hard he's struck.

But you have robots fighting now. I still don't see the purpose. Why not have a slugfest where Logan and other character takes turns hitting each other.

As far as mechanics
Logan might not tall enough to reach Rulk's head with his claws. How would that work? Do we pretend he is tall enough? Then How would the fight play if Logan takes their eyes out with a punch? Do they pretend their eye isn't slashed out and precede with the other actions of the fight that happened in the comic like robots? Or do they change course of action?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
H1 DID have a point, which is, what conclusions can we draw from this thread?

For me, it appears:

1. A lot of Hulk's fights are stupid, in terms of the characters. As Smurph said, unless Logan's claws are invisible, Cap should dodge. But then, the Hulk's fists aren't invisible, and none of these opponents usually dodge. If fighting Logan in h2h is stupid, surely fighting Hulk in h2h is also stupid?

2. No one, up until now, has said that Logan is too slow to enact his attacks. Does that mean Logan and Hulk are similar in speed?

But don't you want both characters to "act" out the comic fight exactly, like they're actors in a movie? Wouldnt Namor have to allow Logan to hit him in the face, even if Logan swings much slower than Hulk and could possibly dodge it if he wanted?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
H1 DID have a point, which is, what conclusions can we draw from this thread?

For me, it appears:

1. A lot of Hulk's fights are stupid, in terms of the characters. As Smurph said, unless Logan's claws are invisible, Cap should dodge. But then, the Hulk's fists aren't invisible, and none of these opponents usually dodge. If fighting Logan in h2h is stupid, surely fighting Hulk in h2h is also stupid?

2. No one, up until now, has said that Logan is too slow to enact his attacks. Does that mean Logan and Hulk are similar in speed?


In the sense that Hulk is slow or fast?

Originally posted by h1a8
You only clarified the actions the characters will make, you didn't add stupid physics to the fight. Namor punching Logan (particular action) is totally different than saying Logan feet is glued to the ground and can't move no matter how hard he's struck.

But you have robots fighting now. I still don't see the purpose. Why not have a slugfest where Logan and other character takes turns hitting each other.

As far as mechanics
Logan might not tall enough to reach Rulk's head with his claws. How would that work? Do we pretend he is tall enough? Then How would the fight play if Logan takes their eyes out with a punch? Do they pretend their eye isn't slashed out and precede with the other actions of the fight that happened in the comic like robots? Or do they change course of action?

Logan isn't bound to the same rules, as I said. If he needs to leap up to reach their eyes (assuming he needs to to replicate Hulk punching Rulk in the face), then he does so.

As I said:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They're not grabbing Logan's hands in this gauntlet.

They're fighting him like they do against the Hulk. So for example, in WWH, if Sentry grabbed Hulk's hands and held him in place then he can do so here.

But if he flew into Hulk and traded punches, then that's what happens here.

Of course, Sentry being the last in the gauntlet makes him the toughest and most debatable.

So against Namor, for example, it would go like this:

Wolverine hits Namor full in the chest.

https://i.postimg.cc/jSBr8L0Z/main-qimg-701705f22b4eacc37173a485586eb097.jpg

Then they trade blows, so Logan is stabbing Namor some more.

Would Namor recover in time to deliver a blow to Wolverine's head? When injured like he would be from a full stab, would it even be effective? Then Wolverine can keep fighting.

Against WWH Sentry, Sentry will speed blitz Wolverine, smashing him through buildings etc....would Logan recover in time for the panel where Hulk punches SEntry square in the head? ('Whatever happens next....is on your head, bub')
https://imgur.com/a/C31HP

If Hulk wasn't lifted off his feet and thrown back 100s of feet away, Logan isn't. Now you can debate and say 'Oh, maybe it was PIS, or maybe the puncher didn't want to deliver enough force to make Hulk fly 100s of feet', whatever - but the main point is, we have replaced Hulk with Logan.

With regards to your questions, do you think it would simply end with a mere eyes out? That Logan can't stab all the way into Rulk's head, ending the fight?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I literally said imagine their most famous fights with Hulk, only with Wolverine in my op.

Plus you asked a year or so ago and I explained.

PlUS I literally said fought instead of fights: tbh, I always think fights against logan are pis if the person isn't dead.

BTW Wolverine has stabbed Namor more than once... Namor is just Squirrel girlish and can even make Thanos bleed.

Originally posted by h1a8
But don't you want both characters to "act" out the comic fight exactly, like they're actors in a movie? Wouldnt Namor have to allow Logan to hit him in the face, even if Logan swings much slower than Hulk and could possibly dodge it if he wanted?

Does Namor 'allow' Hulk to hit him in the face, then? This is my point - yes, it sounds stupid to get hit in the face by Logan's claws - but then, it is also stupid to get punched in the face by the Hulk, lol.

You talk about crappy comic physics - are you really going to suggest that Hulk's punches are that much faster (yes, I know F=MA)? If so, I would like to see hard numbers FROM COMICS that state this. Again, Namor and the others have all also faced Logan before, and he had zero trouble tagging them (Thor even says that Logan is too fast for him).

Originally posted by cdtm
In the sense that Hulk is slow or fast?

Yes.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Logan isn't bound to the same rules, as I said. If he needs to leap up to reach their eyes (assuming he needs to to replicate Hulk punching Rulk in the face), then he does so.

As I said:



If Hulk wasn't lifted off his feet and thrown back 100s of feet away, Logan isn't. Now you can debate and say 'Oh, maybe it was PIS, or maybe the puncher didn't want to deliver enough force to make Hulk fly 100s of feet', whatever - but the main point is, we have replaced Hulk with Logan.

With regards to your questions, do you think it would simply end with a mere eyes out? That Logan can't stab all the way into Rulk's head, ending the fight?

You can quote yourself until you are blue in the face. No where did it mentions that the stupid physics would be the same (characters feet glued to the ground) or that Logan will jump to punch. You didn't think about these things (just like the writer didn't). You are simply making stuff up as you go.

With that said, I can see Logan not being able to cut through Rulks skull with a swipe (a stab yes). But he can cut tissue and flesh (eyes, throat, etc with a swipe). So how would the fight continue if Rulk or Thors eye is out? Do they change actions now? Or pretend it didnt happen, like robots?

If Wolverine were to strike any other than Sentry, it could be fatal, or result in decapitation. Due to his skeletal strength, Wolverine is one of the most deadly physical strikers in all of comics. He is among the only characters that can take what he dishes as well, as far as being able to survive being assaulted by cutting/piercing attacks.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Does Namor 'allow' Hulk to hit him in the face, then? This is my point - yes, it sounds stupid to get hit in the face by Logan's claws - but then, it is also stupid to get punched in the face by the Hulk, lol.

You talk about crappy comic physics - are you really going to suggest that Hulk's punches are that much faster (yes, I know F=MA)? If so, I would like to see hard numbers FROM COMICS that state this. Again, Namor and the others have all also faced Logan before, and he had zero trouble tagging them (Thor even says that Logan is too fast for him).



Yes.
Dont answer questions with questions. I still don't understand the answer. Just be direct. Yes or no would suffice.


So Namor is allowed to dodge Logan IF Logan's punch is way slower than Hulk's where Namor can react?

Originally posted by Stoic
If Wolverine were to strike any other than Sentry, it could be fatal, or result in decapitation. Due to his skeletal strength, Wolverine is one of the most deadly physical strikers in all of comics. He is among the only characters that can take what he dishes as well, as far as being able to survive being assaulted by cutting/piercing attacks.


Shouldn't matter how sharp those claws are.


You can give a person the sharpest object in the world, but some things you still need strength to penetrate. And Logan does not have super human strength.

Flesh wounds on Thor are far better writing than lopping off an arm.

Originally posted by Stoic
If Wolverine were to strike any other than Sentry, it could be fatal, or result in decapitation. Due to his skeletal strength, Wolverine is one of the most deadly physical strikers in all of comics. He is among the only characters that can take what he dishes as well, as far as being able to survive being assaulted by cutting/piercing attacks. Wrong

Originally posted by h1a8
You can quote yourself until you are blue in the face. No where did it mentions that the stupid physics would be the same (characters feet glued to the ground) or that Logan will jump to punch. You didn't think about these things (just like the writer didn't). You are simply making stuff up as you go.

With that said, I can see Logan not being able to cut through Rulks skull with a swipe (a stab yes). But he can cut tissue and flesh (eyes, throat, etc with a swipe). So how would the fight continue if Rulk or Thors eye is out? Do they change actions now? Or pretend it didnt happen, like robots?

I guess I just overestimated your intelligence, and didn't think I needed to clarify

Originally posted by h1a8
Dont answer questions with questions. I still don't understand the answer. Just be direct. Yes or no would suffice.


So Namor is allowed to dodge Logan IF Logan's punch is way slower than Hulk's where Namor can react?

No.

Originally posted by cdtm
Shouldn't matter how sharp those claws are.


You can give a person the sharpest object in the world, but some things you still need strength to penetrate. And Logan does not have super human strength.

Flesh wounds on Thor are far better writing than lopping off an arm.

Logan does have superhuman strength. Do regular humans pick up motorcycles?

Not to mention......why would it matter? Wolverine has certainly stabbed and slashed many a durable person before, so why are we suddenly taking that away from him?

Originally posted by cdtm
PIS.

Logan himself said Hulk was too tough for his claws, and the best he did on Thor was to scratch his arms.

He never targeted Thor's arms.

You can't even look at the pretty pictures? Are you less than carver?

He did target his ribs... and did enough damage to easily go through his 1) Asgardian leathers, 2) chainmail and 3) flesh, so Thor was nursing his wounds for the rest of the fight... and afterwards, too.

Originally posted by Stoic
Logan does have superhuman strength. Do regular humans pick up motorcycles? Yup!Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not to mention......why would it matter? Wolverine has certainly stabbed and slashed many a durable person before, so why are we suddenly taking that away from him? It wouldm't bub! Dice n Slice

Originally posted by badabing
I know that Wolverine has cut Thing deep in the face and sliced Grey Hulk stomach. Well said Bada!

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He never targeted Thor's arms.

You can't even look at the pretty pictures? Are you less than carver?

He did target his ribs... and did enough damage to easily go through his 1) Asgardian leathers, 2) chainmail and 3) flesh, so Thor was nursing his wounds for the rest of the fight... and afterwards, too.


Arms, ribs tomatoe tomato.


I did think maybe I misremembered, but either way proves the point. Ribs are even more vulnerable anyways.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/fear_me/WolvievsNamor.jpg

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/wolviestabsthanos.jpg

Originally posted by Stoic
Logan does have superhuman strength. Do regular humans pick up motorcycles? The assertion isnt that any degree of superhuman strength is enough to cut through anything.

The assertion is that Logan has to have a larger degree of superhuman strength (than what he has) to cut through certain things.

Slashing and stabbing are twi different things. Everyone believes that Logan can slice the flesh of all the contestants and stabbed into them.
But slashing through their skull is something different.
I seen evidence pointing away from that and no evidence supporting that (Rulk Thor etc)

Things face?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf67QRl7mWM

Thor 2:04

Originally posted by h1a8
The assertion isnt that any degree of superhuman strength is enough to cut through anything.

The assertion is that Logan has to have a larger degree of superhuman strength (than what he has) to cut through certain things.

Slashing and stabbing are twi different things. Everyone believes that Logan can slice the flesh of all the contestants and stabbed into them.
But slashing through their skull is something different.
I seen evidence pointing away from that and no evidence supporting that (Rulk Thor etc)

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/7/78977/3401667-wolverine%20hulk%20stab%20full2.jpg