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Dude is this gonna waste 8 minutes of mine? I honestly have a very busy work week.

Could you just make your own argument for me to address? Videos/links should only be used as evidence to back up your points.

You have this awful habit of posting a video instead of actually making your own argument. If that's not evidence of a blind follower then I don't know what is.

Okay I have indeed wasted 8 minutes of my life listening to that. All it confirmed to me is that you've joined this new breed of Nazis who hate on muslims now instead of jews.

It's hilarious how it begins with "Oh poor Tommy Robinson demonised just for not liking Islam as a religion" and then goes on for the rest of the video demonising muslims as people (just like TR does).

Anyway Falcon since you're incapable of making a coherent argument yourself, I'll challenge you first. What on Earth do the Pakistani rape gangs from 13 years ago have to do with Islam?

I'll wait.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Okay I have indeed wasted 8 minutes of my life listening to that. All it confirmed to me is that you've joined this new breed of Nazis who hate on muslims now instead of jews.

It's hilarious how it begins with "Oh poor Tommy Robinson demonised just for not liking Islam as a religion" and then goes on for the rest of the video demonising muslims as people (just like TR does).

Anyway Falcon since you're incapable of making a coherent argument yourself, I'll challenge you first. What on Earth do the Pakistani rape gangs from 13 years ago have to do with Islam?

I'll wait. They wear the same religious clothes.

Maybe they're not Muslims, maybe they were terrorists posing as Muslims but not following the religion other than having no foreskin and hating on Jews.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
They wear the same religious clothes.

Maybe they're not Muslims, maybe they were terrorists posing as Muslims but not following the religion other than having no foreskin and hating on Jews.


Okay so to be clear, the connection to Islam is some religious clothes? Not sure what Religious clothes you're referring to tbh. And were these even being worn during the criminal activities?

Look Catholic priests have been involved with tons of pedophilia. They were definitely wearing religious clothes Lol. But that Doesn't mean they were following Christ when doing so. And those were actual Priests FGS.

So again my question:

What do random British Pakistani criminals (from 13 years ago) have to do with Islam?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Okay so to be clear, the connection to Islam is some religious clothes? Not sure what Religious clothes you're referring to tbh. And were these even being worn during the criminal activities?

Look Catholic priests have been involved with tons of pedophilia. They were definitely wearing religious clothes Lol. But that Doesn't mean they were following Christ when doing so. And those were actual Priests FGS.

So again my question:

What do random British Pakistani criminals (from 13 years ago) have to do with Islam? It was 11 years ago, but no. It bears no resemblance to Islam. It is an odd coincidence, however.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
It was 11 years ago, but no. It bears no resemblance to Islam. It is an odd coincidence, however.

If anything it's more Ironic than coincidental. Given Islam prohibits Intoxicants and sexual relations outside of marriage.

But fact is muslims can be criminals. Just like christians and atheists.

So now we're at the crux of the discussion. Criminal activity has happened in the UK that was covered up because the police didn't want to sound racist. This shouldn't be happening.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
So now we're at the crux of the discussion. Criminal activity has happened in the UK that was covered up because the police didn't want to sound racist. This shouldn't be happening.


Of course not. But the criminals were all caught and prosecuted in the end. That won't happen again.

I would ask though, why so concerned about this crime in particular? How many rapes and sexual assaults by Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris were covered up just because they were famous and well respected? You're not harping on about those. Why are you concerned specifically about crimes when muslims commit them?

Just a thought for you to ponder on. I know the answer - it's because of the channels/influencers you listen to. They want to race bait the issue, and use "I'm just questioning Islam" as their cover.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Of course not. But the criminals were all caught and prosecuted in the end. That won't happen again. I hope not, for your sake.

We were discussing those specific crimes. Rolf Harris and Jimmy Saville have had their own threads on here and I think everyone had their say of contempt. Same with Epstein.

I've heard that argument before. Now when it's some miserable old git like Pat Condell who thinks he's edgy or funny, it's obvious. It's usually miserable old gits anyway. When Tommy Robinson does it, I can see the sincerity when he says he's spoken to peaceful Muslims who agree with the horrifying things taught in the Quran, the Hadiths, and the life of Muhammed. But this is still a religious text with absurdities, violence, fear, homophobia, sexual discrimination etc.

You say you're a Muslim. I'm confident you are not homophobic, sexist, violent or have absurd beliefs like the global flood, for example. The scripture is still there, however.

You mentioned marriage earlier. Are you married?

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
I hope not, for your sake.

For my sake?

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
We were discussing those specific crimes. Rolf Harris and Jimmy Saville have had their own threads on here and I think everyone had their say of contempt. Same with Epstein.

Let's not forget Prince Andrew.

Funny I don't remember their religion being mentioned once with any of these guys.

Whose demanding the enquiry?

Also why you making out it's something in the past? Pakistani grooming gangs were also in the past, but you've decided to blame everything on that suddenly, because Elon Musk has just found out about it.

Whose looking into Elon and Trump's connection to Epstein? Whose shouting up and down about it? Who cares about that. Who actually cares about the victims without a political agenda?


Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
I've heard that argument before. Now when it's some miserable old git like Pat Condell who thinks he's edgy or funny, it's obvious. It's usually miserable old gits anyway. When Tommy Robinson does it, I can see the sincerity when he says he's spoken to peaceful Muslims who agree with the horrifying things taught in the Quran, the Hadiths, and the life of Muhammed. But this is still a religious text with absurdities, violence, fear, homophobia, sexual discrimination etc.

All religious texts have those things. So what is your obsession with the Quran?

I'm not obsessed with Hindu scriptures. I couldn't care less because I don't believe in them.

But you and your Ilk seem overly obsessed with Islam. I'd argue it's a smoke screen to be anti-immigrant and in some cases just outright racist.

Tommy Robinson sincere? Are you out of your mind? The guy tried to demonise a Syrian kid just because he's muslim. He's in prison for contempt of court. Tries to blame all our problems on muslims, with complete double standards.

You're indoctrinated if you think he's sincere. It's so clear he's not. Just have to look at his double standards. Does he blame Christianity for White pedophiles who happen to be Christian? Does he judge the Quran differently to the Torah or Bible? Does he justify the killing of muslims but go ape shit if a muslim kills someone else?

All these are clear signs of NOT being sincere.


Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
You say you're a Muslim. I'm confident you are not homophobic, sexist, violent or have absurd beliefs like the global flood, for example. The scripture is still there, however.

You mentioned marriage earlier. Are you married?

Because the Quran is guidance for ourselves. It's not there to judge other people. IOW we're told not be have sexual relations outside of marriage Or to indulge in homsexual acts. That doesn't mean we hate people who choose otherwise. We're also told not to drink alcohol. That doesn't mean I hate you or want to kill you because you choose to drink.

Yes I'm married. And the Quran isn't violent Lmao. It's not a pacifist religion either (wouldn't have survived if it was), but it has a clear moral code of when to wage war and if war is waged how it should be waged.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
For my sake?
Because you're a Muslim and people might think you were involved.


No, the new Labour government caused a halt to the enquiries and Elon, like myself and many others questioned, "WTF?" It's also a bit suspicious considering a lot of the people in the Labour party were in government at the time of these events. That should ring alarm bells!

My ilk? Look, as I've said before, this shit shouldn't be happening. For your sake, for my sake, for everyone's sake!

Well, I wasn't there. So I don't know. Maybe Stephen did libel, I just don't know.

Sounds a bit like Sikhism. Yes, I'm aware that Sikhism came about to end the Islam/Hindu wars in sub-Himalaya. Back to your point. I don't know enough about Islam to comment.

Happy?

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
I don't know enough about Islam to comment.

Some honesty for once

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Okay I have indeed wasted 8 minutes of my life listening to that. All it confirmed to me is that you've joined this new breed of Nazis who hate on muslims now instead of jews.


Oh, many of them still hate Jews too.

I hate Robtards.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
Because you're a Muslim and people might think you were involved.

But that's just bigotry. You should be sticking up for me (and the vast majority of muslims), instead of nodding along with Tommy.


Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
No, the new Labour government caused a halt to the enquiries and Elon, like myself and many others questioned, "WTF?" It's also a bit suspicious considering a lot of the people in the Labour party were in government at the time of these events. That should ring alarm bells!

Because enquiries were done long ago, and recommendations made. It's actually the Tories who didn't implement those recommendations.

Nazir Afzal (the Pakistani Muslim who prosecuted these guys), has explained all this in length. Start listening to guys like him on youtube and follow him on X, so your news is a bit more balanced. I've heard all the Tommy Robinson and Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson nonsense. I've heard what Nigel Farage has to say as well. You listen to both sides then you will start picking up the truth.

Elon is just s*** stirring.

Elon, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Tommy Robsinson. Forget these guys. They're not sincere. At the very least listen to opposing channels so you get some perspective on how much crap they chat.


Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
Sounds a bit like Sikhism. Yes, I'm aware that Sikhism came about to end the Islam/Hindu wars in sub-Himalaya. Back to your point. I don't know enough about Islam to comment.

Happy?


Nah that's Islam. We see the Quran as a book of Gudiance. Call it a self help book from the Heavens.

It can be judgmental at times, because the way we see it GOD can be judgemental. But we can't. We're supposed to invite people to Islam. Would be kinda impossible to get people to convert if we just hated everyone else. And impossible if we constantly tried to kill them all.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
But that's just bigotry. You should be sticking up for me (and the vast majority of muslims), instead of nodding along with Tommy.




Because enquiries were done long ago, and recommendations made. It's actually the Tories who didn't implement those recommendations.

Nazir Afzal (the Pakistani Muslim who prosecuted these guys), has explained all this in length. Start listening to guys like him on youtube and follow him on X, so your news is a bit more balanced. I've heard all the Tommy Robinson and Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson nonsense. I've heard what Nigel Farage has to say as well. You listen to both sides then you will start picking up the truth.

Elon is just s*** stirring.

Elon, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Tommy Robsinson. Forget these guys. They're not sincere. At the very least listen to opposing channels so you get some perspective on how much crap they chat.





Nah that's Islam. We see the Quran as a book of Gudiance. Call it a self help book from the Heavens.

It can be judgmental at times, because the way we see it GOD can be judgemental. But we can't. We're supposed to invite people to Islam. Would be kinda impossible to get people to convert if we just hated everyone else. And impossible if we constantly tried to kill them all. I'll look at Nazir Afzal, so thanks for that recommendation. Believe it or not, I do watch videos from leftists like Brother Neuro and Aron Ra, and I think Darkmatter2525 did a video on why he left the right. Like every other Ravenclaw, I seek knowledge and the journey is more thrilling than the finish line.

"The world will only know peace if everyone is Muslim." That's somewhere in the Quran, but I disagree.

Sorry, I like bacon.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
I'll look at Nazir Afzal, so thanks for that recommendation. Believe it or not, I do watch videos from leftists like Brother Neuro and Aron Ra, and I think Darkmatter2525 did a video on why he left the right. Like every other Ravenclaw, I seek knowledge and the journey is more thrilling than the finish line.

Lol sounds like even your Lefty's are Islam haters. Although Aron Ra is just anti-Religion tbf.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
"The world will only know peace if everyone is Muslim." That's somewhere in the Quran, but I disagree.

Not sure it says that. It does say something Akin to "If GOD willed it we would all be Muslim"... Point of that being not to force people to convert. Yes, it's specified in the Quran that we don't force people into conversion, and that it's everyone's choice how they live.

Source - Quran Surah's 2:256 & 43:60 & Surah 109 (in case you wanted to check, I don't make up verses or twist them out of context)

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
Sorry, I like bacon.


WHAT?! I HATE YOU!!! YOU ARE MY SWORN ENEMY!!

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Lol sounds like even your Lefty's are Islam haters. Although Aron Ra is just anti-Religion tbf.



Not sure it says that. It does say something Akin to "If GOD willed it we would all be Muslim"... Point of that being not to force people to convert. Yes, it's specified in the Quran that we don't force people into conversion, and that it's everyone's choice how they live.

Source - Quran Surah's 2:256 & 43:60 & Surah 109 (in case you wanted to check, I don't make up verses or twist them out of context)




WHAT?! I HATE YOU!!! YOU ARE MY SWORN ENEMY!! Aron ra was a big influence to me as I like birds and dinosaurs as well.

I googled that, and it's still stating devotion to some God. I'm sorry, but that is just something I can never do.

Bacon hater from ASSSSSSSS GUAAAAAARD!!!!!!!!

VEGETA, WHAT DOES THE SCOUNTER SAY ABOUT HIS LOCATION?

HE COMES FROM AAAAASSSSSS GUAAAAAARRRRRRRDDDD!!!!!!!!!

WHAT ASGUARD? THERE'S NO WAY THAT COULD BE RIGHT, COULD IT???!!!!!!!!!???????!!!!!!!?!?????!!!!!!!!!!! 404'D.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
Aron ra was a big influence to me as I like birds and dinosaurs as well.

I googled that, and it's still stating devotion to some God. I'm sorry, but that is just something I can never do.

Bacon hater from ASSSSSSSS GUAAAAAARD!!!!!!!!

VEGETA, WHAT DOES THE SCOUNTER SAY ABOUT HIS LOCATION?

HE COMES FROM AAAAASSSSSS GUAAAAAARRRRRRRDDDD!!!!!!!!!

WHAT ASGUARD? THERE'S NO WAY THAT COULD BE RIGHT, COULD IT???!!!!!!!!!???????!!!!!!!?!?????!!!!!!!!!!! 404'D.


Of course you cant devote yourself to God ! Youre devoted to all the booze and bacon. Sad git !

You take bacon and booze away from me, I'll fly a plane through a building.

You'd miss.

How're you sweating on the streets of Woking when you're Scottish? Travel much?

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This for me? Quit posting s*** from Ex-Muslims.

I'm sure your Ex thinks you're a POS too.

Which ex?

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^ Yeah his history there is utter BS.

I mean what does he mean they always give back the land they've taken? Has he not seen the difference between the land Israel was originally given vs where it is now?!

I told you quit looking into this subject until you understand the constantly expanding illegal settlements in the West Bank. You don't know about them because these Rightist Zionists you listen to won't mention that.

Start listening to some Leftys on the subject. You might actually learn what's going on. All these Rightists do is propaganda to justify Israel's illegal and horrific existence.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Yeah his history there is utter BS.

I mean what does he mean they always give back the land they've taken? Has he not seen the difference between the land Israel was originally given vs where it is now?!

I told you quit looking into this subject until you understand the constantly expanding illegal settlements in the West Bank. You don't know about them because these Rightist Zionists you listen to won't mention that.

Start listening to some Leftys on the subject. You might actually learn what's going on. All these Rightists do is propaganda to justify Israel's illegal and horrific existence. I did a google search. There are almost 200 illegal Israeli settlements in the West Bank, which British government sources are condemning.

I would like to stress the difference between Trump taking Gaza as a neutral peaceful zone for all people, and the West Bank having illegal Israeli settlements. They are two different cases. I think there are disputed territories between Israel and Lebanon as well, making the situation more complicated...

Also, "rightist zionists?" Are you anti-Jew or anti-Israel?

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
I did a google search. There are almost 200 illegal Israeli settlements in the West Bank, which British government sources are condemning.

Yes anyone in agreement with human rights and International Law would obviously condemn this in the harshest terms.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
I would like to stress the difference between Trump taking Gaza as a neutral peaceful zone for all people, and the West Bank having illegal Israeli settlements. They are two different cases.

They are not two different cases. Going by International Law it's all illegally occupied and should belong to the Palestinians.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
I think there are disputed territories between Israel and Lebanon as well, making the situation more complicated...

It's really not that complicated. Israel tries to claim as much land as it can. It has done since day 1 of it's existence.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
Also, "rightist zionists?" Are you anti-Jew or anti-Israel?

I'm not going to dignify this with a response.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yes anyone in agreement with human rights and International Law would obviously condemn this in the harshest terms.



They are not two different cases. Going by International Law it's all illegally occupied and should belong to the Palestinians.



It's really not that complicated. Israel tries to claim as much land as it can. It has done since day 1 of it's existence.



I'm not going to dignify this with a response. The same land that used to be part of the Roman empire before Muhammed? That land?

Bloody beaker folk....coming over here.

I support Bro Jaden's point.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
The same land that used to be part of the Roman empire before Muhammed? That land?



What's Muhammad got to do with this conversation you blatant Islamophobe?!

You're trying to be clever but you're only proving how dense you are. No idea why I've wasted time on a blatant bigot like you.

Yeah sure the land belongs to Italy because the Romans were there once. Thicko.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
What's Muhammad got to do with this conversation you blatant Islamophobe?!

You're trying to be clever but you're only proving how dense you are. No idea why I've wasted time on a blatant bigot like you.

Yeah sure the land belongs to Italy because the Romans were there once. Thicko. That is when the jihads happened and took part of the Roman empire. Constantinople, Albania, Iberia to name a few others, then came the crusades, then a few other things happened, but my point was Israel was created by international law in 1948. At what point did Palestine legally become a country or peacefully purchased those lands? Not the Muslims who freely live in Israel, the ones in Palestine who are still at war with a country they invaded.

You're now being evasive because not only have I destroyed your point, you know I'm right.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Bloody beaker folk....coming over here. Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
I support Bro Jaden's point. Tbf, they barely managed to get into Scotland.

The funny thing is, when I show anti-trans stuff, you think I'm homophobic, but then I show you gay people with the same opinions and you go quiet. I show you anti-Islam stuff and you say I hate brown people, but then I show you brown ex-Muslims with the same opinions and you go quiet. You think I'm close minded and only follow some media, because you think I'm DDM but that is not the case either.

You're a joke.

Annoying voice 😤

Originally posted by Darth Thor
No idea why I've wasted time on a blatant bigot like you.

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Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
That is when the jihads happened and took part of the Roman empire. Constantinople, Albania, Iberia to name a few others, then came the crusades, then a few other things happened, but my point was Israel was created by international law in 1948. At what point did Palestine legally become a country or peacefully purchased those lands? Not the Muslims who freely live in Israel, the ones in Palestine who are still at war with a country they invaded.

You're now being evasive because not only have I destroyed your point, you know I'm right.


The idea that you've destroyed anything with your low IQ and right wing talking points is hilarious. You didn't even know about the illegal settlements (because your right wing youtubers and ex-muslims didn't mention that part did they?!)

The fact that you can't distinguish between an indigenous group of people (a race) and their religion shows that when you're doing your Islamophobic schtick it's just a front for your racism. You also don't get how stupid you sound when you say s*** like "oh Palestine was never legally a state". Yeah great justification for ethnic cleansing you d*** head.

Also funny how you pick and choose when International Law applies. You have no moral compass and you have no coherent argument. So just Gtfo.

Get this thread shut down. You're not learning a thing, and you're certainly not educating anyone on anything Lmao

Ad hominem attacks on your part because you have no rebuttal.

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Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
Ad hominem attacks on your part because you have no rebuttal.




You don't even know what point you're making. You're just repeating right wing talking points but with no coherency at all. Explains why you couldn't give a direct rebuttal to anything I said.

I lost patience with you when you responded to a full (and clearly wasted) rebuttal with "Romans were there before Mohamad was born... derp I'm being so clever with that one"

Originally posted by Darth Thor
You don't even know what point you're making. You're just repeating right wing talking points but with no coherency at all. Explains why you couldn't give a direct rebuttal to anything I said.

I lost patience with you when you responded to a full (and clearly wasted) rebuttal with "Romans were there before Mohamad was born... derp I'm being so clever with that one" I'm not as egotistical as you, go **** yourself. You thought you were being clever by saying it was run by Muslims before Israel was established, like I'm a moron who doesn't know that. So I played your game and went back to Roman times, and now you're butthurt because it's a useless argument. The current situation is, the united nations have decreed Israel as an independent multi-cultural, multi-ethnical, multi-religious state for all of humanity back in 1948, and a few people from Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon were like, "no screw you."

That's the situation. I believe they can and should live in those places, but only if they recognise Israel as a state and abide by Israeli law, as that was the agreement.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
I'm not as egotistical as you, go **** yourself. You thought you were being clever by saying it was run by Muslims before Israel was established, like I'm a moron who doesn't know that. So I played your game and went back to Roman times, and now you're butthurt because it's a useless argument. The current situation is, the united nations have decreed Israel as an independent multi-cultural, multi-ethnical, multi-religious state for all of humanity back in 1948, and a few people from Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon were like, "no screw you."

That's the situation. I believe they can and should live in those places, but only if they recognise Israel as a state and abide by Israeli law, as that was the agreement.


Firstly you are a moron.

Secondly do you have any idea how many UN Resolutions Israel is in breach of? Like I said you pick and choose International Law at the whim of your right wing buddies you're completely brain washed by.

Like them the ONLY part of International Law you accept when it comes to Israel is it's formation. Which was very sketchy and immoral in the first place.

Quote me where I said "it was run by Muslims before Israel was established" - hint - you can't because I never said that. It's your Islamophobic brain which interpreted my words that way.

Again you have no clue what point you're making here. Because you're thick.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Firstly you are a moron.

Secondly do you have any idea how many UN Resolutions Israel is in breach of? Like I said you pick and choose International Law at the whim of your right wing buddies you're completely brain washed by.

Like them the ONLY part of International Law you accept when it comes to Israel is it's formation. Which was very sketchy and immoral in the first place.

Quote me where I said "it was run by Muslims before Israel was established" - hint - you can't because I never said that. It's your Islamophobic brain which interpreted my words that way.

Again you have no clue what point you're making here. Because you're thick. Can't even use a comma properly, but call me a moron, okay.

I'm sure there are a lot. Yet, it's in the hands of the UN which is a US institution! Trump, as commander in chief, has the authority.

Sketchy and immoral, how?

I'm asking the question here, buddy.

He edited his original statement calling the establishment of Israel sketchy and immoral.

My point was, if you want to bring up the control before Israel, the Ottomans, before it was Roman. We could go back even further to Akkadian days, but let's focus on modern law instead, yeah? The UN, which was created by the US, and has more weapons than everyone else combined... I know, it's a paradox, but they're in charge!

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
Sketchy and immoral, how?

I'm asking the question here, buddy.

Because the British just gave it to them. Duh.

Would you think it's completely fine if the Arab league got together and gave the UK to the Japanese?

You keep saying oh it's recognised under International LAW, but you've never asked under what Basis did Israel have the right to be formed. What International standards allow this kind of formation? It would be completely illegal under current laws. They literally just have the loophole that it was formed right at the start of the Geneva convention and current laws starting to be formed.

Either way Israel certainly doesn't have the right to exist occupy and operate the way it has been doing for the past few decades.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
He edited his original statement calling the establishment of Israel sketchy and immoral.

I left that in there actually.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
My point was, if you want to bring up the control before Israel, the Ottomans, before it was Roman. We could go back even further to Akkadian days, but let's focus on modern law instead, yeah? The UN, which was created by the US, and has more weapons than everyone else combined... I know, it's a paradox, but they're in charge!

Okay at least now you're talking about race and communities which were there at one point or another. Instead of just randomly red herring religion into the argument in no coherent way.

Your only issue going back in history is that Palestinians are still refugees today. So still directly oppressed by the formation of Israel.

If your point is that Might makes Right then JUST SAY THAT. Don't beat around the bush.

FYI if you do want to make this about the history of these religions in the area, well guess who brought Jews back to that region after Romans and Christians kicked them out? Caliph Umar. One of Muhammad's close companions.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Because the British just gave it to them. Duh.

Would you think it's completely fine if the Arab league got together and gave the UK to the Japanese?
If we don't have a choice and lost a war, sure. It's like that old Eddie Izzard joke, "cake or death?" I'll pick cake thanks.

I said the UN, which is a US establishment by Woodrow Wilson after WW1 and was part of the reason why he got the nobel peace prize. Is the Geneva convention something more credible toward world peace?

Learn to use commas.

Also, what would your idea be for the state of Israel and Palestine?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I left that in there actually.



Okay at least now you're talking about race and communities which were there at one point or another. Instead of just randomly red herring religion into the argument in no coherent way.

Your only issue going back in history is that Palestinians are still refugees today. So still directly oppressed by the formation of Israel.

If your point is that Might makes Right then JUST SAY THAT. Don't beat around the bush.

FYI if you do want to make this about the history of these religions in the area, well guess who brought Jews back to that region after Romans and Christians kicked them out? Caliph Umar. One of Muhammad's close companions. No, you left out the part about Israel being "sketchy and immoral." Scared, much?

You're bringing race into this and have been doing this whole time. It's not my fault you're brown!

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Firstly you are a moron.

Secondly do you have any idea how many UN Resolutions Israel is in breach of? Like I said you pick and choose International Law at the whim of your right wing buddies you're completely brain washed by.

Like them the ONLY part of International Law you accept when it comes to Israel is it's formation. Which was very sketchy and immoral in the first place.

Quote me where I said "it was run by Muslims before Israel was established" - hint - you can't because I never said that. It's your Islamophobic brain which interpreted my words that way.

Again you have no clue what point you're making here. Because you're thick.

Not sure about the UK, but in the US most bigoted Rightist tend to conflate Islam with race, making no real distinction, where a Muslim is just another word for someone with brown skin, Arabic features and 'speaks funny' to them.

Their crippling levels of bigotry makes them too stupid to realize that Islam is just a religion and that Muslims live in all parts of the world and come from virtually every background, with the majority being Asians, not Arabs, as you know.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is a similar situation you're facing here. Just some food for thought.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure about the UK, but in the US most bigoted Rightist tend to conflate Islam with race, making no real distinction, where a Muslim is just another word for someone with brown skin, Arabic features and 'speaks funny' to them.

Their crippling levels of bigotry makes them too stupid to realize that Islam is just a religion and that Muslims live in all parts of the world and come from virtually every background, with the majority being Asians, not Arabs, as you know.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is a similar situation you're facing here. Just some food for thought. In the UK. a brown person is usually Hindi, Sikh or Muslim, but some are also Christian. There is a specific type of Muslim that is Afghani/Pakistani thanks to 9/11, which is quite a threat to a lot of people in the UK. However, it's quite clear to distinguish who is and/or isn't a threat to humanity.

I can tell the difference between a brown person who is nice and friendly and a brown person who is a rude bell end who follows a bullshit religion.

For the sake of equality, I can tell the difference between some white idiot like Kent Hovind and a smart man like Aron Ra who informs me about dinosaurs.

Wywo_4Xid1E Interesting perspective.

Hmm, I usually don't involve myself in political or religious discussion, as those are often quagmires and minefields. But I will say this, every side in any particular argument can have it's bad apples along with the good. I believe that each individual should be judged only by their own individual actions and words, rather than simply lumping them in together as a whole and just saying the whole is bad. Because a lot of innocent people get caught in the crossfire of group blaming that way. Not every Muslim is a bad person, just as not every Muslim is good. The same can be said for Israeli people, or Australians like me, or Americans. We all got our good and bad apples. Would I like to be judged for the crimes of Ned Kelly for example? F@ck no I wouldn't - the dude was a bank robbing train heisting cop killing gang leader. I'm certain most Muslims wouldn't want to be judged for the terroristic acts of Osama Bin Laden. I'm certain most Americans wouldn't want to be judged for the crimes of John Wayne Gacy, a serial child murderer.

And that's why I believe that individuals shouldn't be judged by guilt by association, especially an incredibly loose association like religious faith or nationality, where you may never meet literal millions of members of that same group. It's unrealistic and unfair to judge someone for the crimes someone else did just because they come form a similar part of the world, the color of their skin, or the religious faith they believe in.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Hmm, I usually don't involve myself in political or religious discussion, as those are often quagmires and minefields. But I will say this, every side in any particular argument can have it's bad apples along with the good. I believe that each individual should be judged only by their own individual actions and words, rather than simply lumping them in together as a whole and just saying the whole is bad. Because a lot of innocent people get caught in the crossfire of group blaming that way. Not every Muslim is a bad person, just as not every Muslim is good. The same can be said for Israeli people, or Australians like me, or Americans. We all got our good and bad apples. Would I like to be judged for the crimes of Ned Kelly for example? F@ck no I wouldn't - the dude was a bank robbing train heisting cop killing gang leader. I'm certain most Muslims wouldn't want to be judged for the terroristic acts of Osama Bin Laden. I'm certain most Americans wouldn't want to be judged for the crimes of John Wayne Gacy, a serial child murderer.

And that's why I believe that individuals shouldn't be judged by guilt by association, especially an incredibly loose association like religious faith or nationality, where you may never meet literal millions of members of that same group. It's unrealistic and unfair to judge someone for the crimes someone else did just because they come form a similar part of the world, the color of their skin, or the religious faith they believe in. Yeah, it's like calling all catholics Hitler.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure about the UK, but in the US most bigoted Rightist tend to conflate Islam with race, making no real distinction, where a Muslim is just another word for someone with brown skin, Arabic features and 'speaks funny' to them.

Their crippling levels of bigotry makes them too stupid to realize that Islam is just a religion and that Muslims live in all parts of the world and come from virtually every background, with the majority being Asians, not Arabs, as you know.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is a similar situation you're facing here. Just some food for thought.


The brain washed fodder like a Falcon won't even realise when they are conflating the two. However the people who start these tactics (like a Tommy Robinson) do it by design.

It's a way to hide their racism by claiming "oh I just hate Islam as an ideology", and then go on to target Pakistani Groomers/Pedophiles only (not bothered about white ones) and support killing of Palestinians, Iraqis e.t.c.

End goal they would be happy for just "muslims" to be deported and just "muslims" to be occupied through Imperialism, because that would cover Pakistani's, Arabs, Somalians e.t.c.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
The brain washed fodder like a Falcon won't even realise when they are conflating the two. However the people who start these tactics (like a Tommy Robinson) do it by design.

It's a way to hide their racism by claiming "oh I just hate Islam as an ideology", and then go on to target Pakistani Groomers/Pedophiles only (not bothered about white ones) and support killing of Palestinians, Iraqis e.t.c.

End goal they would be happy for just "muslims" to be deported and just "muslims" to be occupied through Imperialism, because that would cover Pakistani's, Arabs, Somalians e.t.c. You are full of shit.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
No, you left out the part about Israel being "sketchy and immoral." Scared, much?


I get that you're a bit thick. But it's still there. Literally on that very page. It was never edited out LMAO.

And I get it might sound shocking to someone brainwashed by right wing talking points like you. But it's really not that controversial.

Both Dave Smith and Cenk Uygur agree. Here at 43:55 mark-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rdukOvjLCY&t=3352s

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!


I never said I'm brown. Thanks for proving you conflate muslim with brown.

F***ing racist. Against Religion my ass.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I get that you're a bit thick. But it's still there. Literally on that very page. It was never edited out LMAO.

And I get it might sound shocking to someone brainwashed by right wing talking points like you. But it's really not that controversial.

Both Dave Smith and Cenk Uygur agree. Here at 43:55 mark-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rdukOvjLCY&t=3352s



I never said I'm brown. Thanks for proving you conflate muslim with brown.

F***ing racist. Against Religion my ass. My mistake on the editing out part.

I assumed you were brown because you keep bringing it up! Like I give a shit!

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!

You're bringing race into this and have been doing this whole time. It's not my fault you're brown!


What a stupid drunk piece of shit

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Originally posted by Darth Thor
The brain washed fodder like a Falcon won't even realise when they are conflating the two. However the people who start these tactics (like a Tommy Robinson) do it by design.

It's a way to hide their racism by claiming "oh I just hate Islam as an ideology", and then go on to target Pakistani Groomers/Pedophiles only (not bothered about white ones) and support killing of Palestinians, Iraqis e.t.c.

End goal they would be happy for just "muslims" to be deported and just "muslims" to be occupied through Imperialism, because that would cover Pakistani's, Arabs, Somalians e.t.c.

For sure, the provocateurs know exactly what they're doing with their lies and they're doing it to froth up their moronic rabble. As you see and know, they're often successful.

You neglect any videos I post and think I'm pulling them out of my ass or that I'm a bigot, yet I've posted videos starring homosexual and brown people, I myself am neither of those things, and most of the videos I post are by women.

You really are dense to the modern world, which is why you can't understand why Trump won other than "it must because everyone's racist, sexist and homophobic!" The irony.

*whoreson

Originally posted by Robtard
noun. Slang. a man who has been unsuccessful in business or life generally, especially one from a wealthy, powerful family: The program appeals to silver-spoon failsons who want to have something constructive to do with their time.

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Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
You neglect any videos I post and think I'm pulling them out of my ass or that I'm a bigot, yet I've posted videos starring homosexual and brown people, I myself am neither of those things, and most of the videos I post are by women.

You really are dense to the modern world, which is why you can't understand why Trump won other than "it must because everyone's racist, sexist and homophobic!" The irony.

No, I'm pretty sure the majority who voted for Trump in either election that he won did so because they perceived that he was actually doing something other than just stagnating on the status quo. I'd believe that if he was allowed to run for further terms, most people would have voted for Obama for a third term. What people don't generally like to see is a President just sitting in the oval office appearing to do very little. it's the ONLY logical reason I can think of as to why Trump ever got a second chance - that he seems to be actively trying to do things, even if they are all really really $h!t things.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No, I'm pretty sure the majority who voted for Trump in either election that he won did so because they perceived that he was actually doing something other than just stagnating on the status quo. I'd believe that if he was allowed to run for further terms, most people would have voted for Obama for a third term. What people don't generally like to see is a President just sitting in the oval office appearing to do very little. it's the ONLY logical reason I can think of as to why Trump ever got a second chance - that he seems to be actively trying to do things, even if they are all really really $h!t things. You really have an odd perception because Obama was increasingly unpopular towards the end of his second term, which is natural. It happened to a lot of presidents.

Trump got a second chance because Trump won once already, got unlucky with COVID and Biden and Harris were incredibly unpopular. Crazy Joe Biden was clearly too old to lead, and Harris was clueless.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No, I'm pretty sure the majority who voted for Trump in either election that he won did so because they perceived that he was actually doing something other than just stagnating on the status quo. I'd believe that if he was allowed to run for further terms, most people would have voted for Obama for a third term. What people don't generally like to see is a President just sitting in the oval office appearing to do very little. it's the ONLY logical reason I can think of as to why Trump ever got a second chance - that he seems to be actively trying to do things, even if they are all really really $h!t things.
True enough, but shaking up the status quo is not necessarily and automatically a good thing. And other than Trump rightfully opposing genderwoo, so far it's been bizarre at best and alarming at worst.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
You really have an odd perception because Obama was increasingly unpopular towards the end of his second term, which is natural. It happened to a lot of presidents.

Trump got a second chance because Trump won once already, got unlucky with COVID and Biden and Harris were incredibly unpopular. Crazy Joe Biden was clearly too old to lead, and Harris was clueless.

I'm not an American, I can only see American politics from an outside perspective, but I was under the impression that Obama was at least considered one of the better presidents of the last 40 years.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I'm not an American, I can only see American politics from an outside perspective, but I was under the impression that Obama was at least considered one of the better presidents of the last 40 years.

You were not wrong, Obama had one of the highest outgoing approval ratings in US history. Anyone telling you different is a gaslighting clownshoes. The reason being Obama had 7 years of upward growth, what Trump inherited in 2017 and crashed into the mountain before leaving in 2021.

Two new polls show President Barack Obama leaving office with one of the highest approval ratings for any departing US president. -BBC

Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama -Gallup

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I'm not an American, I can only see American politics from an outside perspective, but I was under the impression that Obama was at least considered one of the better presidents of the last 40 years. His popularity declined mid-2014. Albeit, he was generally more popular overall, the natural declination still happened.

I mean, Dubya was well into the 90s of approval after 9/11, and Clinton was struck hard after the Lewinsky scandal. But, I'd rather have Clinton in charge than Bush in 2001. Ever see that interview where he kicked the crap out of FOX news? He could have prevented 9/11. Maybe Gore and JFK Jr. would have...

Ah, whatever.

Originally posted by Robtard
You were not wrong, Obama had one of the highest outgoing approval ratings in US history. Anyone telling you different is a gaslighting clownshoes. The reason being Obama had 7 years of upward growth, what Trump inherited in 2017 and crashed into the mountain before leaving in 2021.

Two new polls show President Barack Obama leaving office with one of the highest approval ratings for any departing US president. -BBC

Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama -Gallup Your Gallup poll link confirms my previous statement.

-6Xc22bcf3M Interesting...

PSA: There's a well established tactic with gaslighting clownshoes where they claim citations that proved their fraudulent claims to be incorrect, actually proved them correct. Do not be fooled, it's just clownshoe tactics *honk* *honk*

eg Dadudemon (Dominic Gargone) loved to employ this tactic when debating. This was of course before he ragequit KMC on Jan 6th 2021, which was years before his Oct 2024 arrest over being a pedophile

Originally posted by Robtard
PSA: There's a well established tactic with gaslighting clownshoes where they claim citations that proved their fraudulent claims to be incorrect, actually proved them correct. Do not be fooled, it's just clownshoe tactics *honk* *honk*

eg Dadudemon (Dominic Gargone) loved to employ this tactic when debating. This was of course before he ragequit KMC on Jan 6th 2021, which was years before his Oct 2024 arrest over being a pedophile

Wait... wasn't DDM lining up to BUY KMC from Raz at one point? I seem to remember that for some reason...

Also, I gotta ask, was DDM ever convicted of that charge? Or was it just an arrest and release situation. Cause if he was convicted then he can burn. But if he was never convicted of it... then we can't assume he's guilty.... I do still believe in the principal of innocent until proven guilty, despite my jaded and cynical age.

Yeah no. Peddle that shit elsewhere

**** dadudemon he's s ****ing pedo

Smells like the return of scripted discord brigade shit. Oh hey look how crowded it got today. Weird

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Wait... wasn't DDM lining up to BUY KMC from Raz at one point? I seem to remember that for some reason...

Also, I gotta ask, was DDM ever convicted of that charge? Or was it just an arrest and release situation. Cause if he was convicted then he can burn. But if he was never convicted of it... then we can't assume he's guilty.... I do still believe in the principal of innocent until proven guilty, despite my jaded and cynical age. OMG I remember he proudly posted his "KMC fund" which was like thousands of dollars.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Yeah no. Peddle that shit elsewhere

**** dadudemon he's s ****ing pedo

Smells like the return of scripted discord brigade shit. Oh hey look how crowded it got today. Weird

Hey man, if he is, I'd hang him myself. I have friends who were victims of that sort of shit, and I know what it does to kids.

That said, I've worked security and law, and I've also seen the effects of false accusations of that nature. It's why I'm always conscious of the double edged sword, I've seen both sides of that sword cut deep.

At the same time, I wasn't around much last year, or the time of DDM's 'departure' from KMC at all, so maybe I missed some things and are ignorant of the facts. I dunno.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Hey man, if he is, I'd hang him myself. I have friends who were victims of that sort of shit, and I know what it does to kids.

That said, I've worked security and law, and I've also seen the effects of false accusations of that nature. It's why I'm always conscious of the double edged sword, I've seen both sides of that sword cut deep.

At the same time, I wasn't around much last year, or the time of DDM's 'departure' from KMC at all, so maybe I missed some things and are ignorant of the facts. I dunno. Bash will inform you. It's like he has it on speed dial.

Weird because 3 seconds after the news broke, Darth Thor was all about "innocent until proven man", also completely uninterested in ddm's string red flag comments and behavior, as well as ddm being caught lying about it when I confronted him, because he crafted his duper's delight story of the incident poorly. Just coincidence, but it's weird because you are also unconcerned while being concerned.

zIW4nXUH7Bo

"intelligent children!"

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Weird because 3 seconds after the news broke, Darth Thor was all about "innocent until proven man", also completely uninterested in ddm's string red flag comments and behavior, as well as ddm being caught lying about it when I confronted him, because he crafted his duper's delight story of the incident poorly. Just coincidence, but it's weird because you are also unconcerned while being concerned.

It's not so much that I'm unconcerned, as it is I have no idea as to what was said or what the proof was. I wasn't around for a very long stretch of time, and yeah, when I did come back, some people are missing. Heck I think Quan disappeared around that time too IIRC, whirly left or changed his name or whatnot.. I mean i think quite a number of people have left in the 4 or 5 years I was out of the loop.

But like I said, if he is guilty of it, then hang him by the balls. Heck I'd go get the lit blowtorch myself. But for me, I'd want to make sure I'm taking the torch to the right criminal for the right crime, rather than do it, then find out later the accused didn't do it. That kind of guilt would break me.

It's just a weird weird couple of days. all of the sudden it's crowded with people who are kinda social with each other and share political opinions, some casual gaslighting but nothing severe and then WHAM. "Leave ddm alone!! ...But if he's guilty then hang him by his private parts!". Well spoken. Thanks. Your opinion has been noted and I will choose to respectfully disregard it. No offense

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
It's just a weird weird couple of days. all of the sudden it's crowded with people who are kinda social with each other and share political opinions, some casual gaslighting but nothing severe and then WHAM. "Leave ddm alone!! ...But if he's guilty then hang him by his private parts!". Well spoken. Thanks. Your opinion has been noted and I will choose to respectfully disregard it. No offense

Hmm, perhaps then I should just disappear again? I dunno.

I certainly didn't say "Leave DDM alone!" I just asked if he was actually convicted of a crime or not. And said if he was convicted then sure, toss his ass out the airlock. But if he's only been arrested and released, shouldn't we wait for that conviction? I dunno, maybe I'm just old fashioned in that way.

You don't know what he posted and you don't wanna know. But you have all this energy to play final lawyer as if you can decide he's welcome back or something. 8 users presently viewing this thread. Weeeeeeird

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Hmm, perhaps then I should just disappear again? I dunno.

I certainly didn't say "Leave DDM alone!" I just asked if he was actually convicted of a crime or not. And said if he was convicted then sure, toss his ass out the airlock. But if he's only been arrested and released, shouldn't we wait for that conviction? I dunno, maybe I'm just old fashioned in that way. Please stay, this place has gotten very stale recently until you showed up.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
You don't know what he posted and you don't wanna know. But you have all this energy to play final lawyer as if you can decide he's welcome back or something. 8 users presently viewing this thread. Weeeeeeird

Final Lawyer? Mate, I aint got no say as to wether or not DDM can or should come back. I'm not a mod, and to be quite honest with you, I don't really care of he did come back or not. I dunno if you know this, but my last handfull of interactions with him, I was not on his side of the debates we were involved with. And yes, I remember thinking he had the personality of a jackass at times. I have no horse in this race one way or the other. I was merely stating a general principal I stood by is all.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
Please stay, this place has gotten very stale recently until you showed up.

Well, i appreciate the vote of confidence, but I'm not known to be reliable in terms of the amount of time I spend on these or any forums. I disappear for large tracts of time because my personal physical health is declining, and I'm often too weak or sick to be bothered with the stresses debates sometimes cause me.

Without you, it's mostly just Robtard and friends...

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
Without you, it's mostly just Robtard and friends...

I'm friends with Bash and Rob myself tho, but that doesn't necessarily mean we can't disagree on certain things.

Hell, when I first met Bash, it was on the opposite end of a debate about Unicron vs McClane. And I believe we'll both tell you we took the absolute piss out of that thread. And from there, we became friends over the course of numerous threads, famous threads, like the Woodchipper thread.

Shit just evolves the way it does sometimes.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I'm friends with Bash and Rob myself tho, but that doesn't necessarily mean we can't disagree on certain things.

Hell, when I first met Bash, it was on the opposite end of a debate about Unicron vs McClane. And I believe we'll both tell you we took the absolute piss out of that thread. And from there, we became friends over the course of numerous threads, famous threads, like the Woodchipper thread.

Shit just evolves the way it does sometimes. You became death, the destroyer of worlds...

Idgi are you calling in a favor, now? You'd have more luck asking me to help you move

It's best to just let it go as far as discussing the "the obvious pedo might have actually been framed" fantasy novel. It sounds fascinating though, maybe put all that energy into a rough draft. Nothing personal, but you're aware that you're moonwalking over a third rail topic, so expect some claws. Sorry not sorry

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Idgi are you calling in a favor, now? You'd have more luck asking me to help you move

It's best to just let it go as far as discussing the "the obvious pedo might have actually been framed" fantasy novel. It sounds fascinating though, maybe put all that energy into a rough draft. Nothing personal, but you're aware that you're moonwalking over a third rail topic, so expect some claws. Sorry not sorry

Let me drop you a PM, need to ask you something.

This is off-topic, but from what I remember, DDM was complaining about the police stopping him from seeing his stepdaughter for some reason involving something that was kinda creepy, he had dumb ideas like eating big macs after a gym workout, for example, only to blame his wife for feeding him a poor diet, and once grabbed his wife's pussy and said he "Donald Trump'd her," in a bragging way.

Now he's been arrested for dodgy stuff involving him and his step daughter. I don't know the full details.

There is also speculation that he sucks elephant dick, but his confirmation was sarcastic, so I can't be sure on that one.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
This is off-topic, but from what I remember, DDM was complaining about the police stopping him from seeing his stepdaughter for some reason involving something that was kinda creepy, he had dumb ideas like eating big macs after a gym workout, for example, only to blame his wife for feeding him a poor diet, and once grabbed his wife's pussy and said he "Donald Trump'd her," in a bragging way.

Now he's been arrested for dodgy stuff involving him and his step daughter. I don't know the full details.

There is also speculation that he sucks elephant dick, but his confirmation was sarcastic, so I can't be sure on that one.

Ok... so, just going by this, he was being creepy towards his step daughter somehow... Eeergh... he's blaming his wife because he chose to eat maccas, and is a grown ass adult... Ooook, Aaaaaand he's also responsible for sexual assault for groping his wife without her consent. And just to confirm, the creepy stuff apparently was enough for the issuance of an arrest warrant.

Thats more than enough to raise red flags sure. You'd def keep close eyes on him, and I'd never let my kids near him.

But as for the elephantine dick sucking... Well.... I don't even know what to say about that one.... thats... WAY left field levels of..... yeah...

don't trust xyz the drunk child predator. even when he's accurate, f*ck him he's trash. here's the rabbit hole entrance if you want to dive in. if not, let it go bruh:

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I feel vindicated and disgusted at the same time, but not surprised. TBH I thought he might have been scared-straight from the last time he was brought in for questioning. But why is everyone here so shocked, after I had pointed out those plot holes in his previously posted coping piece:

--The Disney-villain wicked witch neighbor who was able to use her black magic to specifically implicate him and not his wife to the police without actually witnessing a crime

-- him saying flatout that his daughter could say something "off" and land him in jail, and in the same post expressed intense hostility toward the authorities who treated him "like a criminal"

-- then, after claiming this, going on to claiming that he was not questioned by them

-- the other obvious embellishments to his stories where it turns out that he was actually heroic in some way

But instead, team ddm/XYZ/surt/sm/eon were permitted to distract and false-equate pedo-behavior to me calling ***** a narcissistic cvnt when she was only a twentyteen year old child. (certainly no older than twenty oneteen). Of course Falcunt tried to lie and say she was 16. Wonder why he needed to do that? Weird.

https://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=17037781#post17037781

look dude it's like you watched the last season of game of thrones, without seeing the previous seasons, and you're like "why does everyone automatically hate Cersea. I could see that she had some questionable moments, sure, but what the hell man...and what's up Sansa's ass? (Sorry)"

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Ok... so, just going by this, he was being creepy towards his step daughter somehow... Eeergh... he's blaming his wife because he chose to eat maccas, and is a grown ass adult... Ooook, Aaaaaand he's also responsible for sexual assault for groping his wife without her consent. And just to confirm, the creepy stuff apparently was enough for the issuance of an arrest warrant.

Thats more than enough to raise red flags sure. You'd def keep close eyes on him, and I'd never let my kids near him.

But as for the elephantine dick sucking... Well.... I don't even know what to say about that one.... thats... WAY left field levels of..... yeah... He also had an obese step-son, which of course was his wife's fault, not the big mac diet he encouraged.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
don't trust xyz the drunk child predator. even when he's accurate, f*ck him he's trash. here's the rabbit hole entrance if you want to dive in. if not, let it go bruh:

Ok, theres a lotta back and forth in those threads that makes my f@cking eyes bleed to read it. Thats a lotta hate in there from all over the place.

Also, I have vague memories of Surt doing something very unsavory... or was that someone else? I forget... It's been literally 6 years...

I think Bash or Rob started the DDM sucks elephant dick meme, but I find the idea of DDM sucking elephant dick very amusing.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
look dude it's like you watched the last season of game of thrones, without seeing the previous seasons, and you're like "why does everyone automatically hate Cersea. I could see that she had some questionable moments, sure, but what the hell man...and what's up Sansa's ass? (Sorry)"

Thats probably because even when I was active, I tended to stay away from interpersonal drama. Had enough on my plate at the time dealing with just the VS debates (You know, Quan and co?) that piling forum personalities flinging shit at eachother didn't interest me. Still doesn't really, but this forum was more active when i came back and was curious, so I started reading, and asking questions. Of course I'm not gonna have all the context. And not having all the context immediately at hand surely isn't a sin. It's why we ask questions in the first place, to get that context. Now I get that people asking to clarify shit you've known and dealt with for years can be a frustrating thing, but at the same time, you couldn't expect me to go through 5 years of threads to find it myself, thats like telling someone to go watch the previous seasons of GOT, only it's mixed in with every piece of Star Wars, Star trek and the MCU media with it.

Wasn't Quan Chi the autistic guy that everyone, including Whirly, made fun of because of his dumb opinions on nerdy shit that was never worth caring about anyway?

Originally posted by dadudemon
When I thought my children were going to be taken and put into protective custody by DHS because:

1. Some lady up the street is super Christian and tried to preach to me and I told her that I was not interested and to never bring up religion at my house again.
2. So she reported me to DHS for child molestation and she used the excuse that my daughter was holding her crotch while playing outside (which is one of the signs of child molestation but the far more obvious reason is my daughter had to pee, and like most kids, didn't want to come in to pee).

The case worker said that if my children were living with me, they would have been taken and put into protective custody until the investigation was completed. Luckily, my children were spending 2 weeks at their grandparents home. After the investigation, the lady became much nicer (they took my daughter to this creepy-ass room at a facility where a "forensic child interviewer" asked my daughter questions). They said that they rarely get children as innocent as my daughter come through there because their parents let their children watch trash and listen to trash. I had to hold my tongue and not say, "Perhaps I'm a good father, dumbass? Thanks for believing that I didn't molest my own damn children, you piece of shit." But I realized she was just trying to do her job.

So, yeah, never have I genuinely wished harm to befall another human being as much as I have this uppity piece of shit ultra-Christian lady living up the street. When we go to move, I will definitely tell her what a giant piece of shit she is. No, I will not report her to DHS for a bogus accusation: her child does not deserve to be put through that hell. That was definitely the shittiest thing to happen to me. If my daughter had said one thing off, I'd be arrested and have to lawyer up. Holy shit, that lady is a giant c*nt...



SQ

Originally posted by dadudemon
I had a thought experiment based on this. It happened when this gal, who was 14, but did not look a day younger than 25-27, was making advances towards me (this was 2-3 years ago). If I was single and did not know any better, I may have made some shitty choices because she was smoking hot. I did not find out, until later from her older brother, that she was 14. She clearly knew what she was doing and that made her seem creepy, imo...


Here are two scenarios (switch the genders to make it fit your preferred gender in romantic or sexual relationships):

1. Is it wrong to be attracted to a female if she looks fully sexually mature (disregard the mental aspect of this question)?

2. Is it wrong to be attracted to a female that looks like she is 12 but has the intelligence and maturity of a 40 year old (assume she is well past legal age of consent)?

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
Wasn't Quan Chi the autistic guy that everyone, including Whirly, made fun of because of his dumb opinions on nerdy shit that was never worth caring about anyway?

I dunno if he was autistic, but he certainly was a troll. He'd drag debates out for hundreds of pages with nothing but sheer f@cking will have the last word.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg


yeah, I read that part, and your commentary that that explanation was too convenient, too 'self heroic' to be accurate. So you've called that out as a lie. Which is fair enough an opinion to hold.

Please stop posting this shit. Send the rest to DZ in PM.

I'm just giving you morsels. So much questionable shit....the only thing I found shocking was that other people were shocked

Originally posted by Bashar Teg


THAT one is a massive f@cking red flag. Thats is a massive alarm bell actually.

That is all I needed.

F@ck that guy.

I got a guy community banned and exiled forever from another community I was a part of for exactly this. Only difference was, she was 16, not over the age of consent, and the scumbag ****ing knew that.

It was just a tHoUgHt eXpErImEnT though, he said that clearly

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
It was just a tHoUgHt eXpErImEnT though, he said that clearly

Yeah, you know what the f@cker said in the case I mentioned? "I'm socially awkward and didn't know how to explain what I felt."

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-12-2022/F9-K-x.gif

Search his posts for the words "sexual maturity" and strap yourself in for some hardcore cringe

A thought experiment? What was the hypothesis? Groom a young girl and she might give you sexual favours?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Yeah, you know what the f@cker said in the case I mentioned? "I'm socially awkward and didn't know how to explain what I felt."

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-12-2022/F9-K-x.gif

You'd definitely ban XYZ then

*Edit* when I said "hardcore cringe", that's not to say that I didn't already show you 2 of the 3 creepiest things I ever saw him post here. But there is soooo much more

I've never done anything like that. A bad drug trip and a teenage woman of age, IE 18, is the best you've got on me.

Originally posted by It's xyz! (mid to late 20's)
Nothing wrong with popping cherries. mmmmm
Originally posted by Foxsteak
I was ****ed up on drugs and wandered into a school. I did not ogle 12 year olds and the police were there to talk to me, but they could tell I was ****ed up.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
I don't take medication, they know they fcked up! But a get out of jail free card and free money from the gov'ment is okay, I guess.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Search his posts for the words "sexual maturity" and strap yourself in for some hardcore cringe

Ya know, when I was working, I got to see all kinds of the lowest forms of human depravity first hand. Reading some of these does trigger some of my old PTSD memories from that time. There's some things no amount of therapy can ever ease the pain of what you see in those jobs... Unfortunately I saw a lot.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

yeah, I read that part, and your commentary that that explanation was too convenient, too 'self heroic' to be accurate.

even more than that, it was a typical DaDudeStory. they always followed the same pattern. he kept his cool and the irrational retards finally calmed down and realized that they were in the presence of greatness. whether they lighten up and befriend him, or slink off into the darkness hissing, he'd always be the quirky hero protagonist.

when you see it enough, you just know it's bullshit. like when the president tells the same story about the big tough guy who had tears in his eyes and said "sir"...

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
even more than that, it was a typical DaDudeStory. they always followed the same pattern. he kept his cool and the irrational retards finally calmed down and realized that they were in the presence of greatness. whether they lighten up and befriend him, or slink off into the darkness hissing, he'd always be the quirky hero protagonist.

when you see it enough, you just know it's bullshit. like when the president tells the same story about the big tough guy who had tears in his eyes and said "sir"...

Hmm, I guess I didn't give him enough attention to establish the pattern. The few interactions I had with him, or bore witness to was a more sudued form of the same circular reasoning shit Quan pulled so often, and by that point I was so numb to it I just didn't give it any space in my brain to process. Heck by that point, I would have been likely inclined to just say "Whatever, Van Zan still lost to a woodchipper, your argument is invalid" and called it a day, Because I honestly couldn't have given half a thimble full of liquid $h!t as to what he had to say by then.

Denton Van Zan what a silly pony to back. I used to consider him just poorly written, but he's also a known plot device to test the hero. Like Christopher Waltz in Django Unchained. Seems like a good teammate until he does something selfish and stupid to make everything worse for the hero, and dies stupidly in the process. To see them trying to put him over as a champion was just "in your face" offensive

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Denton Van Zan what a silly pony to back. I used to consider him just poorly written, but he's also a known plot device to test the hero. Like Christopher Waltz in Django Unchained. Seems like a good teammate until he does something selfish and stupid to make everything worse for the hero, and dies stupidly in the process. To see them trying to put him over as a champion was just "in your face" offensive

The way a wannabe viking badass goes out:

https://i.redd.it/5wu1nj8vk0zd1.gif

By becoming a Dragon turd.

Teehee, at least he didn't give out his address like dragon lord.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
look dude it's like you watched the last season of game of thrones, without seeing the previous seasons, and you're like "why does everyone automatically hate Cersea. I could see that she had some questionable moments, sure, but what the hell man...and what's up Sansa's ass? (Sorry)"

It's been a long while since I posted comedy gold/fire like that, and y'all just yawned

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
It's been a long while since I posted comedy gold/fire like that, and y'all just yawned

I mean, I actually didn't know how to respond to that besides "Lol" but I guess the funny answer would have been "It was either the knowledge of the imminent failure of the final season, or following up with a Dark Phoenix rising in her buttcrack :P "

Plus I set up a stupidly unrealistic scenario. Someone sees only season 8, but still holds enough interest in the story to want to learn more about it? What nonsense

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Plus I set up a stupidly unrealistic scenario. Someone sees only season 8, but still holds enough interest in the story to want to learn more about it? What nonsense

True, one would have to be either morbidly curious, or be told that the earlier seasons were better, to be bothered to go back and have a look.

Funny thing though, because I wrote a lot back in the day, I actually had to do research for A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones. I probably know far more about that series than I should :P

Reading his books, you can tell why he's fat. He always has food on the brain.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Reading his books, you can tell why he's fat. He always has food on the brain.

Well... Not 'Always' He often as sex and violence in those books. Though often not all mutually exclusive.

"No alcohol, no pork of any kind, no leavened bread." - Quran

"**** you, that's my bed and breakfast." - me

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The beer is the supper...

JRNJJfZXNBA Pakistani British woman talking about what some Pakistani people think about the grooming gangs.

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