Your Lord knows very well what is in your heart. Your soul suffices this day as a reckoner against you. I need no witnesses. You do not listen to your soul, but listen instead to your anger and your rage.
Dude is this gonna waste 8 minutes of mine? I honestly have a very busy work week.
Could you just make your own argument for me to address? Videos/links should only be used as evidence to back up your points.
You have this awful habit of posting a video instead of actually making your own argument. If that's not evidence of a blind follower then I don't know what is.
Okay I have indeed wasted 8 minutes of my life listening to that. All it confirmed to me is that you've joined this new breed of Nazis who hate on muslims now instead of jews.
It's hilarious how it begins with "Oh poor Tommy Robinson demonised just for not liking Islam as a religion" and then goes on for the rest of the video demonising muslims as people (just like TR does).
Anyway Falcon since you're incapable of making a coherent argument yourself, I'll challenge you first. What on Earth do the Pakistani rape gangs from 13 years ago have to do with Islam?
Maybe they're not Muslims, maybe they were terrorists posing as Muslims but not following the religion other than having no foreskin and hating on Jews.
Okay so to be clear, the connection to Islam is some religious clothes? Not sure what Religious clothes you're referring to tbh. And were these even being worn during the criminal activities?
Look Catholic priests have been involved with tons of pedophilia. They were definitely wearing religious clothes Lol. But that Doesn't mean they were following Christ when doing so. And those were actual Priests FGS.
So again my question:
What do random British Pakistani criminals (from 13 years ago) have to do with Islam?
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So now we're at the crux of the discussion. Criminal activity has happened in the UK that was covered up because the police didn't want to sound racist. This shouldn't be happening.
Of course not. But the criminals were all caught and prosecuted in the end. That won't happen again.
I would ask though, why so concerned about this crime in particular? How many rapes and sexual assaults by Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris were covered up just because they were famous and well respected? You're not harping on about those. Why are you concerned specifically about crimes when muslims commit them?
Just a thought for you to ponder on. I know the answer - it's because of the channels/influencers you listen to. They want to race bait the issue, and use "I'm just questioning Islam" as their cover.
We were discussing those specific crimes. Rolf Harris and Jimmy Saville have had their own threads on here and I think everyone had their say of contempt. Same with Epstein.
I've heard that argument before. Now when it's some miserable old git like Pat Condell who thinks he's edgy or funny, it's obvious. It's usually miserable old gits anyway. When Tommy Robinson does it, I can see the sincerity when he says he's spoken to peaceful Muslims who agree with the horrifying things taught in the Quran, the Hadiths, and the life of Muhammed. But this is still a religious text with absurdities, violence, fear, homophobia, sexual discrimination etc.
You say you're a Muslim. I'm confident you are not homophobic, sexist, violent or have absurd beliefs like the global flood, for example. The scripture is still there, however.
Funny I don't remember their religion being mentioned once with any of these guys.
Whose demanding the enquiry?
Also why you making out it's something in the past? Pakistani grooming gangs were also in the past, but you've decided to blame everything on that suddenly, because Elon Musk has just found out about it.
Whose looking into Elon and Trump's connection to Epstein? Whose shouting up and down about it? Who cares about that. Who actually cares about the victims without a political agenda?
All religious texts have those things. So what is your obsession with the Quran?
I'm not obsessed with Hindu scriptures. I couldn't care less because I don't believe in them.
But you and your Ilk seem overly obsessed with Islam. I'd argue it's a smoke screen to be anti-immigrant and in some cases just outright racist.
Tommy Robinson sincere? Are you out of your mind? The guy tried to demonise a Syrian kid just because he's muslim. He's in prison for contempt of court. Tries to blame all our problems on muslims, with complete double standards.
You're indoctrinated if you think he's sincere. It's so clear he's not. Just have to look at his double standards. Does he blame Christianity for White pedophiles who happen to be Christian? Does he judge the Quran differently to the Torah or Bible? Does he justify the killing of muslims but go ape shit if a muslim kills someone else?
All these are clear signs of NOT being sincere.
Because the Quran is guidance for ourselves. It's not there to judge other people. IOW we're told not be have sexual relations outside of marriage Or to indulge in homsexual acts. That doesn't mean we hate people who choose otherwise. We're also told not to drink alcohol. That doesn't mean I hate you or want to kill you because you choose to drink.
Yes I'm married. And the Quran isn't violent Lmao. It's not a pacifist religion either (wouldn't have survived if it was), but it has a clear moral code of when to wage war and if war is waged how it should be waged.
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Because you're a Muslim and people might think you were involved.
No, the new Labour government caused a halt to the enquiries and Elon, like myself and many others questioned, "WTF?" It's also a bit suspicious considering a lot of the people in the Labour party were in government at the time of these events. That should ring alarm bells!
My ilk? Look, as I've said before, this shit shouldn't be happening. For your sake, for my sake, for everyone's sake!
Well, I wasn't there. So I don't know. Maybe Stephen did libel, I just don't know.
Sounds a bit like Sikhism. Yes, I'm aware that Sikhism came about to end the Islam/Hindu wars in sub-Himalaya. Back to your point. I don't know enough about Islam to comment.
Your Lord knows very well what is in your heart. Your soul suffices this day as a reckoner against you. I need no witnesses. You do not listen to your soul, but listen instead to your anger and your rage.
But that's just bigotry. You should be sticking up for me (and the vast majority of muslims), instead of nodding along with Tommy.
Because enquiries were done long ago, and recommendations made. It's actually the Tories who didn't implement those recommendations.
Nazir Afzal (the Pakistani Muslim who prosecuted these guys), has explained all this in length. Start listening to guys like him on youtube and follow him on X, so your news is a bit more balanced. I've heard all the Tommy Robinson and Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson nonsense. I've heard what Nigel Farage has to say as well. You listen to both sides then you will start picking up the truth.
Elon is just s*** stirring.
Elon, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Tommy Robsinson. Forget these guys. They're not sincere. At the very least listen to opposing channels so you get some perspective on how much crap they chat.
Nah that's Islam. We see the Quran as a book of Gudiance. Call it a self help book from the Heavens.
It can be judgmental at times, because the way we see it GOD can be judgemental. But we can't. We're supposed to invite people to Islam. Would be kinda impossible to get people to convert if we just hated everyone else. And impossible if we constantly tried to kill them all.
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I'll look at Nazir Afzal, so thanks for that recommendation. Believe it or not, I do watch videos from leftists like Brother Neuro and Aron Ra, and I think Darkmatter2525 did a video on why he left the right. Like every other Ravenclaw, I seek knowledge and the journey is more thrilling than the finish line.
"The world will only know peace if everyone is Muslim." That's somewhere in the Quran, but I disagree.
Lol sounds like even your Lefty's are Islam haters. Although Aron Ra is just anti-Religion tbf.
Not sure it says that. It does say something Akin to "If GOD willed it we would all be Muslim"... Point of that being not to force people to convert. Yes, it's specified in the Quran that we don't force people into conversion, and that it's everyone's choice how they live.
Source - Quran Surah's 2:256 & 43:60 & Surah 109 (in case you wanted to check, I don't make up verses or twist them out of context)
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