Irreversible
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BackFire349
The most disturbing and haunting movie I've ever seen. anyone heard of or seen it? if not it comes out august 5th on dvd, i suggest everyone who likes gore should rent it, because there is a scene where a guy gets his head smashed into pulp by a fire extinguisher, and it looks incredible. this movie also contains the most horrific and realistic rape scene of all time. fair warning, this movie WILL disturb you and stay with you for days after you're first viewing.
kruegerKid
I havent seen it, however, it sounds great though.
BackFire349
its pretty harsh, the rape scene actually brought tears to my eye, but its very well made and intriguing to watch. you should check it out.
kruegerKid
I will, thanks for the heads up.
TedO
Wow, that sounds awesome. Can't wait for it to come out now.
kruegerKid
Hear that Tedo...
Darth Vicious
Like i said in a previous post i saw a trailer for it in Ebert & Ropert and it looks good, im looking forward to seeing it also is the girl in the rape scene Monica Bellucci(Persephone from the Matrix)? also what rating does it have? R or NC17?
BackFire349
unrated as far as i know. and yes its monica bellucci, absolutely stunning woman.
A Talking Dog
Even though Irreversible is a great movie, who ever said that Irreversible has the most brutal rape scene shot on film should see a movie called "I Spit on Your Grave" or "Salo, Or 120 days of Sodom".
Omegaman
What is the basic story line of this movie?
Darth Vicious
hey Talking Dog whats Salo and 120 days of Sodom about? ive seen i spit on ur grave and it wasnt that big of a deal about the 2 movies are they horror or thriller movies?
BackFire349
ive seen i spit on your grave. the rape scenes in that are definately brutal, but the thing that keeps them from being as disturbing as irreverisible is they are way to over the top... they are almost comical at times. irreversibles is downright tragic and the most realistic one ive seen. last house on the left has a very harsh one as well. as does house by the edge of the park
Evil Dead
I don't know...........the rape scene in "I spit on your grave" was pretty realistic, even if the plot of her revenge wasn't......
They need to release I Spit on your Grave on dvd..........you can't even find the video here in the U.S. anymore.........good thing I made a copy when I found it like 15 years ago..........
Omegaman
Backfire, What is the premise of this movie , you know what is the plot give me some details.
BackFire349
they have i spit on your grave on dvd. and vhs, i own it on vhs. and like i said, the rape scene wasnt very real in i spit on your grave, too glorified. irreversibles is much more sollumn, sickening and sad... and the plot, i cant believe i forgot this....
the story is about a woman who gets raped, and her 2 friends go to get revenge on the person who did it. however, the thing that makes it different is that its told backwards, so it starts at the end and ends at the beginning, this gives us a god eye view of the events as they happen and make things even more powerful because it makes it so the viewer feel like they know whats going to happen before the characters... there are some very heavy realizations in the movie that make it extremely heart breaking. so far id probably say its the best movie of the year.
A Talking Dog
Sorry to reply late, Darth Vicious.
The Movie Salo or 120 Days of Sodom is basically about Nazi brutalizing a bunch of kids in World War 2. Considered to be the sickest movie ever made, and is also an adaption of the Marquis De Sade's most controversial novel of the same name. AND for all who don't know Marquis De Sade was sadistic torturer of women in whorehouses and was brought to an insane asylum, where he wrote his novels and died.
BackFire349
sadly i cant find it anywhere.
A Talking Dog
Also noted for graphic rape sequences is the supreme Euro-Trash "epic", Tinto Brass' "Caligula". Also deemed unbearably violent and fact-based.
BackFire349
the biggest video nasty that i know of is generally cannibal holocaust. its pretty much known as the worst of the worst. partly because of its actual animal deaths shown vividly. very disturbing, but great horror movie.
Darth Vicious
Thanks Dog i did a search on "Salo" and it turns out its based in the 120 days of Sodom, while im gonna check a couple of video stores this weekend for those movies i doubt ill find them so ill probably look for them on Ebay but im not sure if i even want to, lol and ill look into that Marquis De Sade guy but im glad not all the sickos are from here in America(Ted Bundy, Gacy among others)
A Talking Dog
In relation to the "Cannibal Holocaust", there was a semi-remake of I can remember correctly called "Cannibal Ferox" also containing real animal slaughter, with the weirdest situation between a gigantic turtle.
...Back to rape, John Water's "Multiple Maniacs", that was just such bizzare rape scene. Has anyone seen it? Though no where near the intensity of Irreversible. {and I also think it was played for laughs}
BackFire349
cannibal ferox is NOT a remake first of all. they are 2 totally different movies. they are very similar, but holocaust is much more serious and overall just a better movie.
A Talking Dog
I guess, sorry for the mistake.
Have you seen Multiple Maniacs? the Lobster Rape Scene!
Neo_Version 7
Have you guys seen this movie. Just saw it and to say, it not the best foreign film I've seen. It's done well but I've seen better. And then blah,blah,blah...
To be frank, I was just in it for the Monicca Belusschi rape scene.
Geez, if you thought she was hot in Matrix Reloaded in her white semi-transparent suit, you'll see her here, completely naked.
What do you guys think about the film anyway?

diegocala
Haven't seen the film yet, but I really like Monicca Belusschi, she is sooooooo hot!!!
BABOON
i saw irreversible and i thought it was great. the part where the guy gets beaten to death with the fire extinguisher was crazy as was the rape scene.
BackFire349
yes, it was an amazing film and i have a thread for it in the horror section. yes i consider this a horror movie. why you ask? it had incredibly dark images. and the rape scene itself i found to be very disturbing and horrific. the way the camera never moved and forced the audience to view it up close and personal, while not using camera tricks to make it seem intense and exciting like they do with most movies dealing with rape was brilliant, just blut, true to life rape the way it probably is in real life. slow, sad, sureal and absolutely stomach churning and heart breaking. i am somehow surprised that you speak of monica belluci like that though. she is a very hot woman, but the way you see her in this movie is not meant to be attractive in any way. the scene brought tears to my eyes because of its bluntness. it truley horrified me and stayed with me for days after i viewed it. again, for those who are in it for the rape scene so you can see monic naked. do not expected to be turned on by what you see, it is disturbing, horrific and sickeningly real. and the fire extinguisher scene was equally amazing and actually made me feel nautious. amazing how real it looked. amazing movie, amazing acting, one of th ebest of the year even if it does make you feel awful after seeing it.
BackFire349
haha, sounds funny. but back to irreversible. cant wait for it to come out on dvd finally. august 5th baby.
Neo_Version 7
Uh, ok. If you guys wish to see Monica naked, without having to feel awkward, go watch Melena. You at least see her breats there. I agree Backfire, one of the most intense and artful rape scene in cinema history, if you ask me. Well done!
Neo_Version 7
Oh, i got it on DVD 3 days ago. Region 2 baby! Sorry!
ragesRemorse
het what is this movie about ive been hearing so much about this movie i hear all about the two realistic violent scenes in the movie but yet im still in the dark on what its about, can you give me a sentence or two on what its about , gonna grab it eigther way just wanna know if im gonna be satisfied thanx
BackFire349
its about a woman who is raped, and 2 friends of hers go after the rapist. the story is told backwards so you have a gods eye view of the events, you see them happen before the characters know about them. great movie, and as you said, contains 2 extremely amazing scenes.
ragesRemorse
well deffaintly gonna pick that up, bout time they start brining back creativity
BackFire349
well i got it earlier today. watched it twice. i must say, now that there are subtitles for me to read, and i can understand what they are saying, the movie is absolutely devestating and almost tramatic.... amazing movie that has to be seen to be believed.
ragesRemorse
hmmm sounds like a movie right down my alley, yeah i went to store in the mall and they said they werent going to be carrying it, havent checked blockbuster but gonna do so tomorrow
Leog14
i saw the rape scene and it is the worst thing that could happen on a movie set. Especially to Monica Bellucci.
If that movie premiered in wide theaters here it would be nominated from best picture.
BackFire349
i got mine at best buy.
A Talking Dog
Does anyone agree with me, that the two scenes {fire extinguisher and rape} in this movie are very, very, very well filmed. Obviously, some parts of it were CGI, but even then, they are so realistic. The fact that you can see a face being disfigured in one "continuous" shot, is like, groundbreaking.
Does anyone agree with me?
{or am I just some guy who likes well-filmed lurid violence}
h0ck3yh0rr0r
it was ok...but i dont remember much of the movie
BackFire349
i agree, so far the best use of cgi ever in film, period. the fire extinguisher scene is downright astonishing, and the rape scene is the most powerful, heartbreaking and realisitic look at rape ever filmed. brilliant movie.
Striel
I have GOT to find this movie.
A Talking Dog
I'm sorry to ask this question, it may sound stupid, but in the end {beginning}, do they actually kill the right bad-guy? {The Tenia}
there were two guys standing there when Marcus finds the Tenia, and they both kinda look alike. And the guy that the camera zooms in on after the beating looks like the guy in the red hallway. But I could be wrong.
BABOON
for those of you in the cleveland area who havent seen this movie theyre showing it at the cleveland cinemateque on sunday 9/14 at 7pm...even though i own it on dvd and have seen it like 3 times im still going just for the experience of seeing it in a theater. so if you can make it..be there!
BackFire349
its an amazing movie, i wish it would play around here so i could see it on the big screen, and see peoples reactions to the horros they see on screen.
A Talking Dog
"Irreversible's graphic violence and flinch-inducing rape scene (eight minutes, uncut) made headlines when the film premiered in Cannes last May, with reports of audience members fainting, throwing up, or just plain walking out."
the movie isn't that horribly violent, I mean, come on, who the hell would faint. I would think people in this day and age could handle such things, and have probably seen much, much worse.
BABOON
HAHAHAHA...oh man..i would love to see that kind of audience reaction on sunday
BackFire349
the movie isnt that violent, you are right...the only really violent scene is the fire extinguisher scene... but its not the violence that makes this movie so disturbing, disgusting and nausiating. its the way that teh violence is portrayed. it is not glorified whatsoever. the fire extinguisher scene is downright amazing, and the first time i saw it i couldnt believe it, it effected me because of its realism, if i didnt know better i woulda thought the mans head was really coming apart. and the rape scene.... same thing goes for that... the way its done is why its so powerful, no quick cuts, no music playing to enhance the drama and remind us that its a movie. it is shown in a true to life way, and most importantly, it is shown as nothing but a tragedy, which is what rape is. I for one, have not seen anything worse, i have seen more gruesom, and over the top, but not worse.
A Talking Dog
Well, I guess I agree with you, in that the violence is very realistic, or as realistic as the film maker could imagine it and show it, and that it is not at all like a "Hollywood" produced movie, but even then, we have movies with the same feel to it, such as "Boys Don't Cry", and I don't recall as much controversy about that film as there was for this one.
I mean, don't get me wrong, both movies are deplorably violent, but my point is that people have seen this style of movie before, what makes this so different?
BackFire349
ive never seen a movie with such realistic horror scenes before. the rape scene feels so incredibly long, which is how it would feel to the victim. tahts why it has such an effect, because the events that take place feel real, along with the atmosphere.
BABOON
now like most people of my generation...i have been very desensitized to violence in movies...video games..etc. mostly because ive seen so much of it. this is the first movie in as long as i remember that actaully made me feel kinda...disturbed i guess..by the violence..its shown in such a realistic fashion by letting the 2 most violent scenes run on for a long period of time..and never changing camera angles or cutting to anything else...if either of those things would have happened the scenes would have easily been much less gruesome...simply because that would have taken away from the realism and reminded the viewer subconsciously that they were in fact watching a movie...brutal stuff. brilliant movie.
A Talking Dog
how long is the film actually suppose to be?
BackFire349
It's about 90 minutes
Bada's Palin
Guy gets his skull caved in, chick gets raped in the underground, etc.
Discuss.
MildPossession
Very disturbing film. In the rape scene, I found the part where someone comes into the tunnel and just walks back out without helping more disturbing than the actual rape.
It's not something I would watch again but it's a must see once at least type of film. I also didn't like some of the camera work, the sort of inbetween bits where the camera goes all over the place. I don't care what it is suppose to represent, it just gave me a headache...
Oo, for disturbing. There is a film out in France at the moment only, called Martyrs, a French film that was first given a 18 rating in France. Now that was a higher rating compared to Irreversible, and Irreversible was a 16+. Martyrs has been edited back to a 16+ now though.
Bada's Palin
Originally posted by MildPossession
Very disturbing film. In the rape scene, I found the part where someone comes into the tunnel and just walks back out without helping more disturbing than the actual rape.
It's not something I would watch again but it's a must see once at least type of film. I also didn't like some of the camera work, the sort of inbetween bits where the camera goes all over the place. I don't care what it is suppose to represent, it just gave me a headache...
Oo, for disturbing. There is a film out in France at the moment only, called Martyrs, a French film that was first given a 18 rating in France. Now that was a higher rating compared to Irreversible, and Irreversible was a 16+. Martyrs has been edited back to a 16+ now though.
Sounds interesting.
I didn't really like Irreversible, but it was worth watching once like you said. They ended up killing the wrong guy and that was basically it.
deathbycorn
The most disturbing thing about Irreversible is the gay club. That was dirty and I never want to see it again. Actually, a friend of mine came up to Sydney from Canberra and I made him watch the fire extinguisher face bashing and he rang me back a week later and told me he kept having nightmares. And he is 23. I love it when I show my mates fukked up gore movies!
Seriously though, this movie is tame compared to Inside (A'linterieur). Now that is brutal.
MildPossession
Irreversible is tame on the gore side(the face bash) compared to Inside(gore nearly all the way through) obviously since that's more or less the only gore feature in it, but Irreversible wins for the rape scene, that is far more disturbing compared to anything in Inside. Still adore Inside though, good French film.
deathbycorn
If you think rape is worse than stealing a baby from a mothers womb, you are pretty silly.
The mothers die from loss of blood. When you get raped you just get a sore ass for a week.
MildPossession
It's not pretty silly at all. The rape in Irreversible was more realistic for me than the stuff in Inside.
Your comment on the rape and sore ass IS stupid. Just get a sore ass, please.
Also I didn't say worse, I said more disturbing for me to watch. Not everyday a baby gets cut out of a stomach forcefully, unlike rape.
deathbycorn
Nah I know where you're coming from but I watched this doco called 'She Stole My Foetus' and honestly I can't think of a worse crime than stealing a baby from another persons stomach. You have to kill the mother. Its the most wrong thing I have ever heard of.
And for it to be true and people actually do it? Just wrong.
I'm not a woman so can't really comment on rape, but I bet it would be very hard for women who go through it, but spare a thought for the women who are killed for their unborn child.
MildPossession
Yep, it's bad but a rape victim who isn't killed has to live with what happened for the rest of her life, a Mother killed for her child is obviously dead and doesn't, it's finished.
deathbycorn
True, but their familys would have to live with knowing their daughter was killed and her baby stolen.
BackFire
Irreversible is a masterwork.
The fire extinguisher scene is one of the most affecting scenes of gore I have ever seen in any movie, while not overly bloody, it feels truly genuine which makes it very stomach churning.
And of course the rape scene is just awful, one of the most powerful scenes in existence.
Best thing about the movie though is that it's cerebral. The parts after the violence become among the most affecting in the film because they're cast in the shadow of the inevitable tragedy that we've seen but that the characters haven't. So things that would normally be seen as touching or moving are now tragic and heart breaking. Great film, can't wait for his new one, Enter the Void.
Bada's Palin
Originally posted by BackFire
Irreversible is a masterwork.
The fire extinguisher scene is one of the most affecting scenes of gore I have ever seen in any movie, while not overly bloody, it feels truly genuine which makes it very stomach churning.
And of course the rape scene is just awful, one of the most powerful scenes in existence.
Best thing about the movie though is that it's cerebral. The parts after the violence become among the most affecting in the film because they're cast in the shadow of the inevitable tragedy that we've seen but that the characters haven't. So things that would normally be seen as touching or moving are now tragic and heart breaking. Great film, can't wait for his new one, Enter the Void.
I think the fire exstinguisher scene, and the fight right before looks strangely realistic. Almost as if that's how a face-bashing would go down. The movie had a lot of raw and strong emotions going for it, and that's probably why it affected a lot of people.
Darth Vicious
Originally posted by MildPossession
Very disturbing film. In the rape scene, I found the part where someone comes into the tunnel and just walks back out without helping more disturbing than the actual rape.
It's not something I would watch again but it's a must see once at least type of film. I also didn't like some of the camera work, the sort of inbetween bits where the camera goes all over the place. I don't care what it is suppose to represent, it just gave me a headache...
Oo, for disturbing. There is a film out in France at the moment only, called Martyrs, a French film that was first given a 18 rating in France. Now that was a higher rating compared to Irreversible, and Irreversible was a 16+. Martyrs has been edited back to a 16+ now though.
Ive watched it once and that was enough for me. The club scene was very brutal and the sad part is, they got the wrong guy. The rape scene was very disturbing. Monica Bellucci is a gorgeous woman and being rape is something I didnt wanna see her on.
Whats Martyrs about?
K.Diddy

Seen this movie last night,The rape and fire extinsher scene were done brilliantly,I like the way they made you watch the movie in reverse as well,It was very smart film making,The only real problem I had with this movie was the way they used the camera,I dont really know what they were trying to achieve with this,my guess is too try and purposely make the viewer feel uncomfortable when watching it,but It was damn annoying and just about unbearable to look at sometimes

Anyway, 7.5/10
jimywaugh
This is not an easy film to watch, but considering what people can, and how violence can come from nothing and the unexpectedness of his masterpiece. The structure has what is essentially a story of revenge and turns a deaf ear to it, because we have to actually see how things get out of control very quickly and what people do when pushed to the limit.
Esau Cairn
I saw this years ago when it first hit the shelves.
From memory I didn't think it was a "great" film.
I mean is a pro-longed rape, a brutal bashing & watching everything play out in reverse enough elements to make a film arty?
eliaslyn
I have already seen this movie. Irreversible is a story told in reverse - the first scene is the conclusion of the story, and each following sequence back through the events that led up to it.
anfernee06
oppss double post
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