Scenario #1: The Joker and his henchmen take the Nakatomi building hostage, Mclane is the only one to avoid them undetected. Basically the same Scenario as Die Hard 1
Scenario #2: Mclane has been transfered to Gotham at the point in TDK where the Joker's attacks had piqued(where he has the henchmen and the hostages switched and awaits a confrontation on the top floor). In this scenario the GCPD send Mclane in by himself to deal with them.
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John Mclane kills jets with trucks. I would say that his resourcefulness and ingenuity is superior to the Joker's. I wouldn't even say that the Joker is more intelligent than McClane. I'm not even convinced that the joker is all that intelligent. He is cunning, for sure, but he is really just smarter than the dumbasses around him. The reason he is such a formidable foe to batman is because he knows batman so well.
John McClane has the last laugh in this one. He does what it takes to get the job done. The only chance the joker has at winning in scenario one is if he goes fcuking nutty (like he always does) and just blows the building to shit at the beginning of the movie
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Since John McLane has no idea what he's getting himself into, he will die by Joker's hands easily. McLane is probably expecting one of his common nutcases, and not the emperor of nutcases himself
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Well, I would say Joker is "prep-god" in TDK. In the whole movie, almost everything that happened, he planned or had numerous other plans should something go wrong. He even almost had Batman at the end (which is total BS IMO, Batman almost losing to those stupid dogs).
The Joker has prep in both these scenarios, if you read the first post trough
__________________ Obsidian Fury's quote of the day "Until this battle station is fully operational, we are vulnerable. The Rebel Alliance is too well equipped, they're more dangerous than you realize."
"Dangerous to your starfleet, Commander; not to this battle station"
Joker, despite his claims of the contrary, was a master planner, he planned on Harvey Dent going insane, guess what? He did.
No one, not even Batman, outplanned the Joker.
John shoots him and his dogs? I'm sorry sir, but that bullshit laughing stunt would not work on a Joker trying to kill someone. As a matter of fact, Joker probably just escapes and blows up the building with everyone in it. Mclane won't have the luxury of bad guys who are only sticking around there so they can rob the bank, Joker doesn't give two shits about money.
Not to mention, John McLane, in all of his movies, in the end looks like a torn, worn, ancient rag. I mean .... it's a wonder the man can even walk after his movies (Yeah, I know, in the 3rd he didnt take all that much beating).
And in all of those movies, compared to the Joker, all his opponents were amateurs.
No, John aint getting out of this one alive.
__________________ Obsidian Fury's quote of the day "Until this battle station is fully operational, we are vulnerable. The Rebel Alliance is too well equipped, they're more dangerous than you realize."
"Dangerous to your starfleet, Commander; not to this battle station"
John launches car filled with gasoline off median, car flies up and crashes into an airliner filled with terrorists, which subsequently crashes onto joker. Joker fails.
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The only problem with your absolutely flawless plan would be that John wouldnt do that. It's a hostage situation, remember?
__________________ Obsidian Fury's quote of the day "Until this battle station is fully operational, we are vulnerable. The Rebel Alliance is too well equipped, they're more dangerous than you realize."
"Dangerous to your starfleet, Commander; not to this battle station"
And the Joker will place himself by the window and just signal the airplane to hit the spot with those blinking stuff.
__________________ Obsidian Fury's quote of the day "Until this battle station is fully operational, we are vulnerable. The Rebel Alliance is too well equipped, they're more dangerous than you realize."
"Dangerous to your starfleet, Commander; not to this battle station"
__________________ Obsidian Fury's quote of the day "Until this battle station is fully operational, we are vulnerable. The Rebel Alliance is too well equipped, they're more dangerous than you realize."
"Dangerous to your starfleet, Commander; not to this battle station"
__________________ Obsidian Fury's quote of the day "Until this battle station is fully operational, we are vulnerable. The Rebel Alliance is too well equipped, they're more dangerous than you realize."
"Dangerous to your starfleet, Commander; not to this battle station"
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