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Gambit versus Daredevil...

Gambit (X Men:Origins) and Daredevil fight on the rooftops of Hell's kitchen. Daredevil has the weapons he used in his movie. Gambit has his cane and a full deck of cards.

The fight takes place at night, and it is to the death. Can Daredevil beat the mutant?


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Yes.

We saw nothing in Gambit's scenes that suggest he could have done what Daredevil did in the opening scene of his movie, with that many people and guns.

He dodged Bullseye who is way more accurate than Gambit.

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I had that thought as I was making the thread, but remember the scene where Bullseye used the organ pipes to disorient DD? And in the subway, the sound of the passing train brought him to his knees.

If Gambit can create an explosion, like he did with his cane on the alley floor, he has a chance. Or with his cards.


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Daredevil in a stomp.


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I dont think so, Gambit disorients him easily IMO.


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Na, he'll get a mouth-full of grappling hook before that happens.


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Movie versions...Daredevil wins.

comic Versions...,Daredevil doesn't have a chance.


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Na, he'll get a mouth-full of grappling hook before that happens.


All I'm saying is that if Gambit manages to disorient DD (which should be easy cheesy, remember the explosion he caused in the alley that threw Wolvie and Creed 30ish feet back?), he wins hands down. Of course if DD manages to get in close and go H2H Gambit loses.

Even if Gambit charges his full deck of cards and misses with everyone of them, the ensuing blasts will surely **** up DD's senses. Not to mention Gambit was every bit as agile/athletic as DD was.

Yes, he was, don't deny it.


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All I'm saying is that if Gambit manages to disorient DD (which should be easy cheesy, remember the explosion he caused in the alley that threw Wolvie and Creed 30ish feet back?), he wins hands down. Of course if DD manages to get in close and go H2H Gambit loses.

Even if Gambit charges his full deck of cards and misses with everyone of them, the ensuing blasts will surely **** up DD's senses. Not to mention Gambit was every bit as agile/athletic as DD was.

Yes, he was, don't deny it.


First of all, it takes very loud noises to do that to Daredevil, otherwise all the gun-fire in that bar would have ****ed him up. Not sure if Gambit's little booms are on par (and pitch) with the massive pipe-organs.

Daredevil times bullets, Gambit isn't going to hit him, not a chance when Daredevil makes even Bullseye miss.

Gambit didn't show all that much on screen to judge him equal to Daredevil in terms of speed and agility.


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I'm talking about the cycle exploding when Bullseye killed Elektras father, Gambits explosions arent as loud as the pipe organs, but the shock/sound waves from Gambits explosions should suffice. Here, watch the beginning of this vid:




When the cycle explodes, DD is so disoriented he cant even catch a simple baton. Gambit unloads on him with a full deck of cards, dude, DD will be useless.

Gambit will never NEED to "hit" him, he can stand back and charge anything into an explosive device, until DD is no more. The explosios he caused in the alley that hurled Victor and Logan backwards would likely have killed/crippled a normal man.

Gambit displayed a shitload of agility when he was using his canes as a ladder. And flipping around like Yoda.


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too horrible characters...

but DD wins


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I really wish people would give up on using comic book movie characters. It's unimaginitive and it always leads to arguments because the reputation if not the feats of the comic book versions always creep in to the arguments.


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Gambit doesn't need to hit Daredevil. He only needs to throw a charged object near DD and the explosion will do the rest. Gambit can charge any inanimate object. He is also capable of emitting kinetic blasts through his staff. A 52 card pick up should be enough to disorient Daredevil. The only reason i give Daredevil the win here is because we really didn't get to see to much of Gambit in the movies. There should be no reason why he would lose but we definitely saw much more impressive feats from Daredevil in the movies. Although, i still say it would be hard for DD to defend a against a 52 pick up or a charged light post. Would Daredevil even be able to sense that Gambit just charged a brick wall or light post?


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Probably not.


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Holy ****, dude. That would have killed any non-mutant-durable man...cept people like Wolverine, Sabertooth, and McClane.

That blast was tearing up everything around it...seems like only the bricks didn't break/shatter.


If Gambit does that, right off, even if he's out of range, his "vision" is shot to ****.




This really comes down to how much knowledge the fighters have of each other. If Gambit knows, before the fight starts, how to "blind" DD, he wins 10 out of 10 times because DD has, pretty much, human levels of durability.


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I really wish people would give up on using comic book movie characters. It's unimaginitive and it always leads to arguments because the reputation if not the feats of the comic book versions always creep in to the arguments.


Not really. Those types of arguments rarely creep up in versus debates and they are really just "aside" comments that aren't really used.


Only that Will guy actually tried to pass of comic book feats, from what I can remember.


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Holy ****, dude. That would have killed any non-mutant-durable man...cept people like Wolverine, Sabertooth, and McClane.

That blast was tearing up everything around it...seems like only the bricks didn't break/shatter.


If Gambit does that, right off, even if he's out of range, his "vision" is shot to ****.




This really comes down to how much knowledge the fighters have of each other. If Gambit knows, before the fight starts, how to "blind" DD, he wins 10 out of 10 times because DD has, pretty much, human levels of durability.
Even if Gambit knows nothing of DD's sonar sense, DD is done. Gambit's power is like.....you know.......blowing shit up.........Why wouldn't he use it here? Saying Gambit wouldn't use his power is like saying DD wouldn't use his sonar sense. Wouldn't happen.

The first time he causes an explosion, he will see the effect it has on DD. Then it's only a matter of time, DD will be at Gambit's mercy. Any other argument is just wanting DD to win.


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Gambit loses, due to the fact that he was f*cking ghey-ass fairy.


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Nah, he wins because he is uber compared to DD.


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Even if Gambit knows nothing of DD's sonar sense, DD is done. Gambit's power is like.....you know.......blowing shit up.........Why wouldn't he use it here? Saying Gambit wouldn't use his power is like saying DD wouldn't use his sonar sense. Wouldn't happen.

The first time he causes an explosion, he will see the effect it has on DD. Then it's only a matter of time, DD will be at Gambit's mercy. Any other argument is just wanting DD to win.


Your points come with the fact that the Daredevil movie is inconsistent.

First they show him immune to a roomful of men with shotguns, machine guns and other weaponry. All of that noise does absolutely nothing to him, and combined that's about equal to an explosion.

Then, they let a car blowing up be the source of his disorientation.

Any disorientation in the movie was used as a plot point, not because that's a weakness he has.

Examples: Bar fight? Nothing. Loud noises? Yes. Things smashing, shotgun fire, machine gun fire, music (In the bar), men shouting, fans whirring.

When did he get disorientated? When the plot called for it; Bullseye fight, Nikolas' death, subway part.

Those aren't legit weaknesses. A train is not more disorientating than lots of men shouting, music blaring, things smashing and assortments of weapon fire from all directions, but they made it out to be.

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