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The Fellowship Vs Skynet

Due to a C++ critical error Skynet is led to believe that Frodo must be stopped and sends a T-800 (Arnold T1 & T2) through a time-space-dimensional rift to Middle Earth during the time of the LoTR with the mission to kill Frodo.

The T-800 arrives naked and quickly kills an Urak-Hai while he's taking a piss and takes his clothing, armour and weapons(shield, sword and spear) and intercepts the Fellowship as they're approaching the entrance to Moria; they believe this human dressed as an Uruk to be some minion of Sauron.

*T-800 - Uruk sword, spear and shield (has been programmed with the knowledge of how to use said weapons)

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*Legolas - Bow, Twin Long Knives
*Gimli - Battle Axe, throwing axe
*Aragorn - Sword, dagger
*Boromir - Sword, dagger, shield
*Gandalf the Grey - Staff, sword

The Hobbits are there and can factor in, though Frodo must survive.


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Gandalf solos.


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Gandalf solos.


How so?


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Its implied he could do so.




(Obviously he heats him up like he did with Aragorns sword and wtfpwnmelts him)


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How so?
He beat a Balrog with his hand to hand skills which was more impressive to me than a terminator.


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Do we even know exactly how hot he could heat him to?


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Enough to make Aragorn go owie and drop him.

Clear indication of victory right there.


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Its implied he could do so.

(Obviously he heats him up like he did with Aragorns sword and wtfpwnmelts him)


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Enough to make Aragorn go owie and drop him.

Clear indication of victory right there.


That was Gandalf the White, who was more powerful than Gandalf the Grey.

Gandalf would have no idea there's a robot under the flesh, as least not until bits get hacked off. The T-800 (T2) was able to continue to function while dipped in molten metal for many moments, Gandalf (the White) heating up a sword doesn't come close to the heat in that furnace.

A hot sword wouldn't bother the T-800, it would just make him deadlier here.


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He beat a Balrog with his hand to hand skills which was more impressive to me than a terminator.


So stabbing a Terminator with a sword will destroy it? Nope.

He could try the calling down lighting into his sword, but alas, there was no active storm in that scene to Moria's entrance.


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That was Gandalf the White, who was more powerful than Gandalf the Grey.

Gandalf would have no idea there's a robot under the flesh, as least not until bits get hacked off. The T-800 (T2) was able to continue to function while dipped in molten metal for many moments, Gandalf (the White) heating up a sword doesn't come close to the heat in that furnace.

A hot sword wouldn't bother the T-800, it would just make him deadlier here.



Yes but Gandalf said he was a servant of the 'Secret Fire' implying that he has complete mastery of Fire and Heat as evidenced by him fighting a being composed of fire and being able to kneel on the ****ing things chest without getting burnt. Clearly therefore Gandalf can channel enough heat into the T-800 to make it explode, afterwhich Gandalf shall casually stroll away not looking at the explosion because he's a cool guy.

Because FVCK YEAH.

BTW Quan, Gandalf only defeated the Balrog by channeling a frickin' lightning bolt into his sword and stabbing it. In this thread there is no lightning to channel into the Terminator.


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Terminator wins.

Aragorn, Boromir, Gimli, Legolas and the Hobbits are all useless

So the real thread is Gandalf vs the terminator

And Gandalf the White super heated the sword, but given that he used it afterward we have no reason to believe this damaged the metal.

The Terminator is near-certainly made from a better metal than Aragorns sword, and it's Gandalf the Grey, not the White.

All in all the fellowship stand no chance.

To be honest I can't help but think this is a spite match unless anyone here save Quan can think of a way in which they can even harm it(?)

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Terminator wins.

Aragorn, Boromir, Gimli, Legolas and the Hobbits are all useless

So the real thread is Gandalf vs the terminator

And Gandalf the White super heated the sword, but given that he used it afterward we have no reason to believe this damaged the metal.

The Terminator is near-certainly made from a better metal than Aragorns sword, and it's Gandalf the Grey, not the White.

All in all the fellowship stand no chance.

To be honest I can't help but think this is a spite match unless anyone here save Quan can think of a way in which they can even harm it(?)


Disagreed.

-Legolas could make eye-shot after eye-shot. Not sure how many it would take, but I don't think a Terminator's camera-eyes are indestructible.

-Gimli has considerable strength, hacking at a joint could damage it.

-Aragorn is too fast and skilled to get hit, at least until he's thoroughly exhausted.

-Boromir, could serve as back-up and distraction.

-Gandalf could serve as back-up and distraction.

-Frodo could don the ring for short periods of time to confuse the Terminator and make it start recalculating its attack.

-Sam could throw pans and lembas bread at it.

-Merry & Pippin showed decent rock throwing skills.


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Disagreed.

-Legolas could make eye-shot after eye-shot. Not sure how many it would take, but I don't think a Terminator's camera-eyes are indestructible.

-Gimli has considerable strength, hacking at a joint could damage it.

-Aragorn is too fast and skilled to get hit, at least until he's thoroughly exhausted.

-Boromir, could serve as back-up and distraction.

-Gandalf could serve as back-up and distraction.

-Frodo could don the ring for short periods of time to confuse the Terminator and make it start recalculating its attack.

-Sam could throw pans and lembas bread at it.

-Merry & Pippin showed decent rock throwing skills.


The Terminators tanked far more force undamaged than any of the characters have been shown to be capable of inflicting in the movies to my memory.

Perhaps Legalas could hit his eyes, but I think that would happen later in the fight when the fellowship have already lost members. And I doubt his arrows are any more powerful than the guns he's tanked in the movies. Some of them would surely have hit him in the eye at one time or another. Isn't there a scene in T-1 where he has to remove his eye because it got shot, and the flesh is totally mutilated?

But dude; Remove Lembas bread or I'm reporting you for spite no expression

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No idea how durable a terminator eye is.

In the first film it was grazed in the face by a sawed-off shotgun; why it cut out it's human eye and surrounding tissue.

Lembas bread stays, it was clearly spoken of in the films.


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So stabbing a Terminator with a sword will destroy it? Nope.

He could try the calling down lighting into his sword, but alas, there was no active storm in that scene to Moria's entrance.
There's no proof he didn't call that storm himself.
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Yes but Gandalf said he was a servant of the 'Secret Fire' implying that he has complete mastery of Fire and Heat as evidenced by him fighting a being composed of fire and being able to kneel on the ****ing things chest without getting burnt. Clearly therefore Gandalf can channel enough heat into the T-800 to make it explode, afterwhich Gandalf shall casually stroll away not looking at the explosion because he's a cool guy.

Because FVCK YEAH.

BTW Quan, Gandalf only defeated the Balrog by channeling a frickin' lightning bolt into his sword and stabbing it. In this thread there is no lightning to channel into the Terminator.
I see no reason why Gandalf can't summon the lightning when he needs to just like against the Balrog.


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No idea how durable a terminator eye is.

In the first film it was grazed in the face by a sawed-off shotgun; why it cut out it's human eye and surrounding tissue.

Lembas bread stays, it was clearly spoken of in the films.


Oh... Well it's a combat terminator, I would have guessed it would be able to withstand the force of an arrow... but that would be a guess if he was only grazed.


But f**k this. Spite in favor of Samwise... and his lame-ass bread. Opps, i mean lambas

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There's no proof he didn't call that storm himself.

I see no reason why Gandalf can't summon the lightning when he needs to just like against the Balrog.


Do you have any proof that he did?

Gandalf did it in the middle to a storm. I doubt he could just call down lightning whenever he wants to or else why the fvck does he not do that more often? He needs a storm to do it obviously.


BTW, I don't need to prove that he can't do something, you need to prove that he can do it.


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Do you have any proof that he did?

Gandalf did it in the middle to a storm. I doubt he could just call down lightning whenever he wants to or else why the fvck does he not do that more often? He needs a storm to do it obviously.


BTW, I don't need to prove that he can't do something, you need to prove that he can do it.
I don't need any more proof you seem to think every feat a LoTR character does I need to cite more feats to prove he can do so again.

It's much more reasonable to assume Gandalf caused the storm because he knew he needed the energy from it to defeat the Balrog with a sword strike than he happened upon a storm and was lucky like right place right time.

It's like saying why didn't he cause more swords to burn so the enemies dropped them. I guess in that sense it was dawn so he lucked out and channeled the power of the sun into Aragorn's sword.


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It's much more reasonable to assume Gandalf caused the storm because he knew he needed the energy from it to defeat the Balrog with a sword strike than he happened upon a storm and was lucky like right place right time.


They fought for several days and then two days upon the mountain. So there goes that argument.


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Well Istari are shown to command the weather. Saruman summons the storm when the Fellowship is climbing the mountain Gandalf makes the sun blaze during his charge.

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