The two greatest jedi/sith in existence meet in ROTS. Substitute Yoda in place of Windu without jedi masters with him. It's just one on one in that environment. This is to the death. Who wins ?
First off I have never battled in the den of nerdom known as Star Wars lair. It's a topic which will probably be split right down the board. I don't know where you stand do you know where I stand on this issue ?
IMO Yoda > Palpatine in saber combat but Palpatine > Yoda in force power feats. So I think Yoda takes it because if this is palpatines office there isn't as much room for maneuver for Palpatine to unleash his force powers. Every time they clashed with sabers in the movie, Yoda came out on top and Palpatine had to resort to force powers.
Episode 3. He won every saberlock, you could see the frustration on Palpatines face. Finally, he disarmed Palpatine, which forced him to rely on his force powers.
He didn't win any saberlock it was a back and forth sort of thing. He might be disarmed between scenes but he also through his powers also disarms Yoda as well.
Pretty much a stalemate. Palpatine could have had Yoda at the very beginning, but he was cocky. Yoda then pushed the fight more-so with Palpatine more on the defensive.
Accounting for this new scenario's boxed in space, I'd give this mostly melee fight to Yoda. He appeared the superior swordsmen. Though given enough room to utilize his Force powers, Palpatine would beat him again. Even the novelization has Yoda admitting to himself that "he just didn't have it."
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I definitely got the impression Palps was at a disadvantage when engaged in saber locks, and also the likely reason he chose to engage Yoda in a battle of the force (pods/lightning). If the battlefield were a plain environment, IMO Yoda would eventually win.
And even in terms of the force, theres not that much to suggest Palpatine is better than Yoda. Palpatine throwing Pods down was easier than Yoda sending it back up because of gravity obviously. Also, Yoda was able to counteract Sidious' lightning to a stalemate.
Lets also not forget Palpatine tried to flee like a b1tch when Yoda arrived.
I'm pretty sure rabid fan boys would be all over us if we said this in the SW section. But then thats because they already have preconceptions due to EU even if they don't admit it.
Palpatine ko'd him with the first blast. When he used the second Yoda fell down and left with his tail in between his legs. At no point was Yoda in control.
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