The fight takes place in the dream world. Freddy possesses another kid and ko's Jason. He wants to finish him off for good for all those deaths from their first encounter. Who wins ?
But even in the dream world where Freddy has every advantage, Freddy Vs Jason (your favorite film) proved that even dream Jason was too much for Freddy to put down and Freddy only subdued him cos he happened to accidentally find out about Jason's water fear.
Another instance where you didn't pay attention and just go with your favorite. That's not how MVF matches are decided.
You mean where Freddy was throwing him around the boiler room at will. Jason was totally in control, amirite ? Freddy manipulated him like all his victims. Jason turned into a a retarded hillbilly in his swimming trunks.
The kids had to actually go in and save Jason from Freddy. Jason is just another victim.
And Jason kept coming, despite Freddy's clear advantage from being in dreamland. It was only Freddy's accidental learning of Jason's water weakness that gave give the clear upper-hand. If not, Freddy would have kept slamming Jason around uselessly until Jason woke up.
In the real world the fight ended up Jason walking out of the Lake with Freddy's decapitated head. Where you too busy stuffing your face with popcorn and candy to notice?
No, the film doesn't. It's just your bias rearing it's ugly head again. Jason did keep coming because he is a tank. Freddy could move him with his mind though and is unkillable there. So basically all he'd do is get his ass kicked over and over until succumbing.
You are speculating. Jason clearly has limits. Ie. the end where his eyes close and he dies. Freddy would have reached them quicker than kicking his ass all over Crystal Lake. Freddy found out his water weakness. That's what Freddy does he exploits fear. Acting like Freddy doesn't do that is just being silly.
So you think they were both alive or in the dream world ? Can Freddy wink with a decapitated head in the real world ? You really are mind numbingly stupid.
This is a difficult fight. Jason is incredibly hard to kill and he just keeps coming back even when teenagers manage to 'kill' him.
Freddy Krueger cant die in his 'Dream World' where you say the fight takes place but it has been proven that you CAN take Freddy out of that world.
Though you didnt say that he did or not.
It is such a close fight of Unkillables that it would come down to ones favorite.
I am not sayign this is a spite thread but it is too hard to come up with an actual victor.
Even if Freddy wasnt dead in the end of Freddy Vs Jason and Jason was still in the Dream World, neither was obviously dead. This could actually be a fight that lasted for years.
We see Jason's physical limits taxed at the end of Freddy versus Jason. Jason didn't bring Freddy out of the dream world. You acknowledge one is unkillable while one is clearly killable for the moment. So you side with freddy.
More importantly accept my battlezone in the foreign cinema versus thread.
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Last edited by quanchi112 on Mar 5th, 2013 at 02:01 AM
Yes, the film clearly does. "Why won't you die!" -Freddy.
It's obviously clear that if Freddy didn't happen to discover Jason's water-fear, Jason would have eventually burned through his anesthetic and awoke, making the dreamland fight a draw and Freddy a failure in his plan to kill Jason. Hence Fred's anger and frustration.
Freddy's more than just a human in the real worl in this film.
You made this thread in the dreamland cos you're bias and want to wank Freddy, but it backfired on you, since there's no guarantee that Freddy will discover the water-issue in a MVF fight. So it'll likely end in a draw once Jason eventually wakes up. Sorry, you failed.
He was shocked those attacks didn't do the job because anyone else would have been dead already.
Quit arguing over what if scenarios. Freddy did discover it. You crying about it won't make it not happen the next time you see it. Freddy turned him into a harmless freak and tortured him. Mocked his dead mother and brought up the trauma of being a freak as a youth.
I agree but he doesn't have the powers he does in the dream world. Freddy can't survive in the real world minus a head.
You won't answer the question because in your tardism you actually believed for years they were still in the real world. In this thread it's a continuation so he already knows about the water issue. You really are painstakingly stupid. Took you over ten minutes and the response was still stupid as all hell.
And didn't know what else to do besides more of the same which proved ineffectual and the clock was ticking.
LoL, so the premise of this fight is that Freddy's just going to know about Jason's weakness? LoL, called it. You made the thread just to wank Freddy; obviously Freddy wins when you set the format of the thread where he can't lose.
This film changed Freddy. He was surviving shit that would have killed or crippled him in his older films. This was done so he could at least compete with Jason.
Again, what's the point of making the thread if you dictate a setting where Freddy can't lose from the start? Idiotic clown tactics.
I didnt say either of them are killable. At the end they are obviously both alive. I even stated this could be a fight that lasts a long time. Stop putting words where there are none.
What ? Freddy was toying with him. He was in no rush. Girl hero shows up and allows Jason to live. Freddy is po'd and wants to torture her. Freddy tends to play with his victims. Jason was no different. He searched his mind for his memories. In one dream he exposed his weakness and was destroying him. That's one dream.
So you admit Freddy wins ? I want to hear you say it.
It counts. Jason was surviving more than he had done previously as well. Freddy is faster and smarter. Freddy was dominating Jason one on one.
I set up a rematch in the dream world. Jason really wants to kill Freddy. I guess it's only fair if jason is a total stranger and it's in the real world. You always cry when your favs lose.
The film proves you wrong again. Freddy's anger and frustration plus the fact that Jason's anesthesia was going to wear off in time.
In a thread dictated where Freddy can't lose. What's the point of making the thread. Cos you just want to wank another favorite of yours. I laugh at the depths you have to go. Typical idiot clown tactics.
Except of course where Freddy ended up as a severed head. Clear "domination."
One line early on in their conflict doesn't define their entire battle. Freddy started torturing him after the fact. Jason also clearly dies at the end. LOL. An explosion takes him out that failed to take freddy out.
So the only way you think Jason has a chance is if we ignore their only encounter.
No, watch it again. Freddy clearly has the advantage until Lori screams for Freddy. Then Jason rips his arm off. They both stare at each other then the explosion blows them off. The explosion kills Jason.
Freddy discovered his weakness just the same. The best was when he feigned injury and then caught Jason's machete. Freddy then showed he can move him with his mind. Then after Jason survived he discovered his weakness.
I don't need to watch it I am describing it to you. You think Jason pikcing up a head someone else cut off after he dies is him winning. Freddy winks at the end proving they are in Freddy's domain. Freddy won despite all the help from the kids. Freddy was the big baddie while Jason was just another victim.
Jason died at the end of the film? LoL, idiot clown tactics.
They had several encounters in the film, Quanchi, with Jason being the superior with the exception of the dream encounter where Freddy was at a loss to put Jason down despite having every advantage until a twist of luck happened and he discovered the weakness. Then again you've claimed Luthor is more powerful than Superman because he's used Superman's weakness against him at times. So I don't expect you to pick up on the clear facts of the film.
Ugh, watch the damn clip. Freddy despite being at one of his best in this crapfest of a film was the inferior. Just watch the clip.
The explosion Freddy survived took Jason. In the real world Freddy outclassed jason straight up.
Freddy completely had him at his mercy in the dream world and got the better of him in the real world. Freddy then survives the explosion that killed Jason in the real world.
Freddy won and looked far superior the entire film.