Thor + Mjolnir + flying > Perseus + Spear of Triam flying on Pegasus. So Thor with his greater power, greater flying speed and stated "most powerful weapon in the universe" would wreck Kronos easier than Perseus did.
Some cried that "only the Spear of Triam" could defeat Kronos; doesn't matter if another weapon of similar (more powerful) status is used from a different Franchise. If that is the case, the thread shouldn't have been made to begin with.
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i didn't make that argument, but i agree with it.
if it's explicitly stated that the only thing able to hurt a character is a particular weapon in that character's universe, then that should be that, regardless of how powerful a weapon from another movie may appear to be... unless of course said weapon is shown to possess the same magical/scientific/etc. properties as the former weapon.
for instance, the argument that mjolnir would be able to perform the same task as the spear of destiny from "Constantine" is ridiculous and moronic.
So for example, if the LOTR movies state that the only way to destroy the one ring is the lava from Mt Doom, you'd agree that the IG from Marvel comics wouldn't be able to destroy it?
AFAIK it was stated that only way to destroy the one ring was throwing it in mt Doom, but it's been years since I've seen the movies.
Isn't it a bit of a no limits fallacy to claim that just because people in the one universe can't do something, then the same must hold true for all universes no matter what power level they operate at?
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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that's where "explicitly stated" comes into play.
if there is a movie with a character who's explicitly stated can only be killed with a dagger made of pure fairy dust and coated in the blood of a 2000 year old unicorn, then THAT is the only thing that can kill said character.
From that movieverse, yes...but that doesn't take into account that other movie universes exist...what happens if another movieverse has an object that has been explicitly stated to be able to kill and/or destroy anything?
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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i think if there's a weapon or object that is explicitly stated to destroy absolutely anything, then yeah, that would override the in-universe laws of a specific movie.
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weapon or object that kills/destroys anything > very specific weapon or object that can kill/destroy a certain character > weapon or object that is more powerful, but does not possess the necessary specific traits needed to kill/destroy a certain character.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
I have to disagree with you marwash. Especially based on how some Universes operate on totally different scales.
Kronos may only be hurt by the Spear of Triam but that's as far as beings in the Percy Jackson Universe are concerned. If some other character can drop the Sun on his dome piece, he's f*cked.
You realize that the object being able to kill/destroy the character would disprove the claim that it can only be killed by _____, and once that statement is disproven, what is there to say that other objects can't also kill sed character.
Exactly, he's ignoring the power levels involved in the universe where the statement is made.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
The object being able to kill sed character disproves the claim that he can only be killed by a dagger made of pure fairy dust and coated in the blood of a 2000 year old unicorn. and once that claim has been disproven it can no longer be used as an argument.
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