hector alone made achilles have to work up a sweat. even got his armor slashed. hector + leo could take him. this of course with teamwork and not charging in one at a time like retards.
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Leonidas dies in the 1st few seconds. He has about 30 seconds of slow motion solo fight feats. The rest was as part of the phalanx. None of it was against any opponent of note except the big monster thing that was kicking his ass. After that the fight goes the way it did in Troy.
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I have to agree with Froth on this one. That fight never felt out of Achilles' control. I always had the impression that Achilles prolonged the fight and held back in order humiliate, Hector and get some sense of revenge.
Looking at the sheer speed at which, Achilles cut soldiers down I don't see him losing this fight. Achilles was a one man killing machine. He essentially single handedly cut straight lines through armies. However, they all have matching weapons and even though it appears that, Hector is highly outclassed I think that working alongside of, Leonidas makes them quite formidable.
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I thought Achilles fought like the demi god he was supposed to be. He fought like a mystical warrior who's moves would only work for him and even though they seemed out of this world they where extremely effective and beautiful.
Hector fought like a battle hardened warrior, top of his class, he had very good skills and his courage was top notch and he was scared of no man. Leonidas was spartan, but they seemed to die just like anyone else when they where singled out.
However as JaXn said, Achilles could wade through armies alone without fear, even knowing when to put a shield on his back to block arrows right before they stuck him.
Hector and Leonidas both had trouble taking down bigger stronger opponents that outclassed them and resorted to a cheap shot when they were about to be killed.
When Achilles went up against that giant Boagrius at the beginning he block and dodged all of his long range attacks and came in for a kill head on with little effort. I was thinking these two together would have a good chance in taking him down but it seems he would take them down regardless.
Makes me wonder if his demi god powers in this movie was extreme agility, strength, pre cognition, admitting to seeing gods, not being afraid of them. I wonder if he was truly invincible before getting hit with that arrow.
You have to remember that Achilles was pissed about the death of his cousin. He wasn't there to **** around, he was there to kill and humiliate Hector. That's why he tied his corpse to his chariot and dragged him through the sand.
just furthers the point. achilles was not "toying" with hector. he was in fullon bloodlust rage because his cousin/boy toy was killed by hector. STILL hector got a hit in at his armor. with another competent warrior as his teammate this is not an easy win for achilles regardless of how anyone attempts to script it.
as far as leo's lack of screen feats, fair enough. however he was a student of the same martial arts which his soldiers were trained, so the assumption that he could not match the feats of his soldiers is nothing more than an appeal to ignorance. this of course does not prove that he can, either.
it is however safe to assume he's not the 300's resident creampuff that jaden is making him out to be. pretty sure he would have died as a child if he was comparatively weak in any way.
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Achilles was was bloodlusted but that doesn't make him into a mindless raging brute. He was calm enough to remove his helm and exchange words with Hector after all.
Besides, if he really was intent on going for the quick kill, then why'd he allow Hector to get up after tripping on a rock? Why does he pause and pose instead of continuously attacking?
He had numerous chances in the fight to end it. Hector was clearly struggling the whole fight where as when Achilles stepped it up a gear in the last moments of the fight hector never got near him. Although it appears Achilles thought he could win with little effort near the beginning of the fight and realised he had to step it up a bit to win. You still got the sense he had another 2 or 3 gears if he needed it.
he was pissed off and intent on killing hector. hector broke his defense and slashed his armor. achilles was notably shocked at this occurance.
this, unlike all the ridiculous scripting in this thread, is what >>actually happened.<<
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ah good, we now have the evidence-free easily dismissable squealing brad bitt fangirl vote.
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it signified that he was able to strike a hit on achilles. WOW LOGIC!
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Yea even if Hector tagged him once while Achilles was just toying with him, that makes it even more worse for Hector, and even more worse if he was toying and Bloodlusted. Means Hector had no chance, After watching the move again, he kissed his wife and son goodbye and gave her final instructions on how to escape because he knew that was the end for him and Troy.
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