Star Trek universe (Reboot) vs. Riddick (universe)
The two Star Trek films vs. the three Riddick films in an intergalactic war. Each character and monster seen or implied on screen in an alliance against the other.
Think the necros would probably sweep aside the federation with relative ease. Strategic red matter deployment and transwarp beaming would be key to that not happening. It could be scripted that certain ways would give a chance to the federation and others from ST and they certainly have the problem solving advantage over the morons in the Riddick universe. But overall power goes to the necros. I think they could sweep ST aside before they could do much about it.
He's stronger and much much faster than Khan. He could've killed Riddick easily. Lod Marshal would be a meta human in comics, beyond Khan's paygrade...even Data's, but he's not in the NuTrek.
Did the Necromorphs ever have space battles, I remember they had big ships, but dont remember them ever using them to fight in space with other forces. If thats the case, how do we assume they sweep out the Federation, let alone Neros future mining ship, which was capable of demolishing a Fleet of starsips with ease.
Based on massively superior numbers. Planet killing weapons. Shock and awe tactics designed specifically to overwhelm planetary defences (of which none have been shown in reboot ST anyway.
Based on the fact that 1 mining ship and 1 warship aren't going to make a very big difference and neither are a handful of Klingons with a couple of small, apparently poorly defended ships against an armada of warrior ships, fighters, command ships etc.
Like I say though. There are scripted means for ST to win using specific technology such as the red matter and the fact that the characters from ST appear to be more adaptable and cunning than the generally stupid Necromonger commanders like Vaako.
If you take character personality out of the equation and just put it tech against tech then the necro empire comes out on top. If you pit characters against each other in 1 on 1 combat then Riddick would take out spock, kirk and Sulu and the Lord commander would stomp Khan.
Where are you getting this massive superior numbers idea from ? Are you just pulling it out of the air ?
Nero himself takes out a planet and far quicker than the Necros that is for sure. Red matter, kiddo. Funny how you say world destroying weapons and ignore the superior world destroying weapon employed by Nu trek.
The Narada is a futuristic mining ship superior to multiple Klingon and Federation vessels. Now you want to just pretend it is a mining ship.
The teleportational abilities, superior ships, shielding technologies, superior numbers as this is based off multiple planets, and intergalactic forces far greater in number than the riddick verse.
The necroverse empire didn't look superior at all to the Federation, Narada, Klingon, and Dreadnaught forces on screen seen in the Star Trek universe.
Oh please. Riddick himself sneaks around and goes on the Necros ship to take on The Lord marshal. Riddick lacks Khan's training, intelligence, weaponry, cellular regeneration, etc. yet resists the soul steal and manages to win with help from a few others due to Lord Marshal not being impressive enough to kill him.
You're clearly a moron that either can't read or has a very short attention span.
The invasion of Helion Prime and the opening scene from Chronicles of Riddick show vastly larger numbers than the 47 Klingon ships and 10 starfleet ships, Narada and Vengeance. Have you even watched it? Each tower deploys hundreds of fighters. The opening scene showed about 20 towers on 1 side of the planet. So if there was the same number on the other side that's 40 towers deploying say 200 fighters at a conservative estimate. That's 8000 fighters and that's before the 10's of thousands of infantry or its warships which can be seen in the background of the Helion Prime invasion in huge numbers.
Trying to argue that Trek has superior numbers on the basis of it having 'multiple planets' regardless of what numbers is shown on screen is the tactics of the defeated and the weak. Reboot trek has all of 5 named planets. Earth, Vulcan, Qo'nos and Romulus and Nibiru. The Helion system in CoR has 5 inhabited planets by itself.
There's no getting around the fact that the Narada is a mining ship. Because that's what it is. Stated on screen. Just because it's futuristic compared to the other ships in reboot trek doesn't make it the all conquering super warship you want it to be.
You say I ignored red matter when I clearly mentioned it in both my posts. You ignore the fact that it's not actually a weapon. Only used as such by Nero the miner. You say that the Narada can destroy a planet far quicker than the Necromonger weapon yet it takes ages for the Narada to burrow to the planet core and deploy red matter. The necro weapons smash into the planet and can be deployed and the push of a switch whenever the necromongers choose.
Just because you have sexual urges over Benedict Cumberbatch doesn't make Khan in any way, shape or form, close to the Lord Marshall in power or ability. And clearly Riddick is far superior to the 3 fighters of the enterprise crew.
If you can't see Lord Marshall is stronger and faster than Khan, then you're an f'n moron. Quit jackin off to Cumber**** and debate logically for once, gay boy.
I never said he was not faster but stronger don't be stupid.
Khan recovers quickly and can't even be hurt by human strength while just tanking his attacks.
Khan breaks skulls when Marshall needs a weapon due to not physically be able to take Riddick by strength despite the dozens of attacks he successfully lands on him.
We don't see all the fighters and no it isn't anywhere near as impressive as the ships and the capabilities demonstrated by Star Trek ships. Narada, Dreadnaught, etc. They have shielding and torpedoes and weapons vastly more impressive than what we see from the Necros. They conquer a planet with weak defenses in a day not comparable to the Federation, etc.
Nero is here so it will be used as a weapon making your post both stupid and moot.
It didn't take long to burrow inside the planet and to be used. Narada crew accomplished this task relatively quickly. They destroyed an entire planet.
Khan is smarter, stronger, can recover far faster, and is far more skilled than The Lord marshal is in every way save speed. The fact this upsets you only makes this the icing on the cake.
Khan sent people flying various times in the film and didn't need to move as fast as Lord Marshal to do so. Khan is far stronger than the quick and inept Marshal.
All those hits and he couldn't even critically injure Riddick.
The capabilities of the star trek ships being constantly getting blown to pieces. Great feats. I notice you're no longer arguing the point about numbers. Concession accepted.
Yes, Nero used the red matter as a weapon to destroy a planet. The Necros don't reside on a planet. You lose again.
The fact that you're even arguing that Khan has even a sniff of a chance against the Lord Marshall shows how stupid you are. I think you might have borderline mental retardation. Tragic.
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