Really? Maybe I'm a bit rusty on Riddick, but he I remember him hauling ass when he encountered most of the monsters in his older movies, and having to be stealthy to survive. I also dont remember any super human strength feats like Gregor. I haven't seen the newest one though, so I may be behind. Speed wise, yes, he's much faster.
EDIT: I just watched a few fight scenes. The most impressive strength feat I saw was him kicking a man a few feet and through a wooden door. He's skilled and fast as hell, but I'd give strength to the Mountain, unless I missed something.
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Last edited by Arachnid1 on Jun 26th, 2014 at 08:07 PM
"As an Alpha Furyan, Riddick has a near-superhuman level of physical strength, speed, agility, reflexes and durability. They also have heightened senses and they can adapt to any given situation almost instantly. "
The amount of force your fingers would need to exert to crush someones head is definitely super human, as opposed to near-superhuman. The dude walks around in armor thats so heavy, a normal man wouldn't be able to move. He wields a greatsword in one hand like a normal sword no problem, and cleaves a horses head off with one good strike.
Riddick may be able to wear him down and take him step by step like the Viper did if he can target weak spots in the armor, but I still think the same thing that happen to Viper would happen to him if he got his hands on him (if he had a weapon). The thing Riddick has going more than anything is his skill with pretty much every weapon. Unfortunately, he has no weapon here but his hands. He'd have to get in close to Gregor to go HTH, and Gregor would get his hands on him. I don't see Riddick taking the Mountain in hand to hand.
Well, he does know how to make a weapon out of anything apparently.
Riddick once caught a grown man in midair with a single outstretched arm (He did this in the prison brawl scene in Chronicles of Riddick). A real person would break their arm trying this, and that's probably at least one of the strength feats dadudemon had in mind when he said Riddick was stronger since I recall us discussing the feat a while back.
As for who is stronger, probably Gregor if what ScreamPaste told me about the skull-smashing feat is true (Namely that the pressure would have been about the same as a deep sea trench, assuming I'm remembering it right).
There is a single strength feat of Riddick's that puts him comfortably into the super-human class on strength (and, by extension, durability). Youtube vid is around, somewhere. Some dude jumps at him, when he first gets to the prison, and he holds out his arm slightly behind himself, straight out, and catches the guy. His arm doesn't move at all on impact. The guy jumped from...20-40 feet up and 10-20 feet away.
Yup, that's what I have in mind.
To breaka human skull (which is the only thing it would have required because once you break it, it doesn't take as much force to continue breaking it...so you really only need the peak force required to break the skull to find the answer), this forum discussed this in depth:
Apparently, scientists recreated Gregors feat with a fake skull, and it took "235kg (520lb) or 2,300 Newtons of force in order to crush a human skull, which is more than double what a human is capable of".
That feat you described is pretty ridiculous though. I've never seen Riddick do anything on that level, so I would chalk that up to shitty choreography, but a feats a feat I suppose.
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Last edited by Arachnid1 on Jun 26th, 2014 at 08:39 PM
Excellent find, dude. That's amazing. From that other website I found, it seemed the strength required was not very far beyond human capability based on some other numbers I saw.
Also, there was, supposedly, a sumo wrestler in Japan, in the 90s, that had so much grip strength that he was, again, supposedly, able to just grab a regular human and crush their skull (this was never tested, directly...obviously, that would be murder). That's how strong Gregor is supposed to be. Definitely superhuman, but not very far beyond with humans are capable of.
Also, TBH, I think you're right about that being a really really really high-showing for Riddick. It should probably be thrown out since it greatly eclipses most of his other strength feats. But in a vs. match-up, it counts which is why I don't throw stuff like that out.
Like sending the Lord Marshal a pretty far distance with an uppercut when he tried to steal his soul.
He's thrown Kira around with one hand effortlessly. What makes this more impressive is when he knelt down, reached over his back and flung her at someone.
He's jumped a dozen or more feet with ease.
He killed a Bio-Raptor(Pitch Black) with his bare hands.
He was punching Mud Demons unconscious or to death in the end of Riddick when his blade broke.
And he's durable enough to take a glancing hit from a gravity gun, as well as fall hundreds of feet and get crushed under rubble.
Riddick is simply too fast, and too strong to lose this. Even if Gregor is stronger, Riddick is strong enough to hold his own, and fast enough to exploit any weakness that a heavy suit of armor would offer.
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