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Faora vs. Ultron

*Ultron as of his stomping of Thor

*Round 1: Both combatants are flying

*Round 2: Both combatants are on the ground

*Winner by BFR, KO, or death

Fight takes place in NYC


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Sub-Commander Faora-Ul


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Faora can't fly...

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She can, just like any Kryptonian. She had not realized her ability yet in the short time she had. There is nothing so unique about Clark or Zod's flight that we can not impute the feat to her.


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Faora has an evolutionary advantage...

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She can, just like any Kryptonian. She had not realized her ability yet in the short time she had. There is nothing so unique about Clark or Zod's flight that we can not impute the feat to her.


I, like any other human, have the ability to perform open heart surgery and do ninjitsu. There is nothing unique about a doctor or bruce lee from me. There is one difference however. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO KARATE! Just she has the genetics doesn't mean she grasps the technique. Remember when zod broke his helmet and got sensory overload? He eventually figured out the trick he had to learn that crap.

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Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I, like any other human, have the ability to perform open heart surgery and do ninjitsu. There is nothing unique about a doctor or bruce lee from me. There is one difference however. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO KARATE! Just she has the genetics doesn't mean she grasps the technique. Remember when zod broke his helmet and got sensory overload? He eventually figured out the trick he had to learn that crap.
Pretty great argument actually.

Unfortunately, OP has already specified that Faora knows how to fly in this scenario. If he specified that you know how to perform open heart surgery and do ninjitsu in some scenario, then you would have that at your disposal. For that reason, it's safe to assume she can replicate any of the flight feats Zod or Supes pulled off.

Anyway, she stomps in every scenario.


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Ultron's going to have a hard time hitting her with her ability to speed-blitz, giving her flight just swings the win in her favor even more.


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Is this when Ultron had his vibranium body? Since it's not likely Faora can do anything. Especially since she was granted flight, but not any heat vision. Not that the heat vision could do much, but it would be better then mere physical force.


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She is granted flight in this battle.

Her strength is enough to rip him apart. He's not pure vibraniam and she won't be using energy based attacks.


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Did Ultron ever have a vibranium body? I thought that was Vision. In any case, his latest body survived prolonged blasts from Thor, IM and Vision without getting incinerated. I don't know if Faora has enough power output to take out Ultron.

Then again, I also don't know if Ultron has enough power output to take out Faora... though Superman did get hurt by the kryptonian ship's laser fire.


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Faora - Stomp, all scenes.


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Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I, like any other human, have the ability to perform open heart surgery and do ninjitsu. There is nothing unique about a doctor or bruce lee from me. There is one difference however. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO KARATE! Just she has the genetics doesn't mean she grasps the technique. Remember when zod broke his helmet and got sensory overload? He eventually figured out the trick he had to learn that crap.


This actually isn't a good argument like somebody commented. You're in fact, not the same as a doctor, or somebody in Mensa for example. They are inherently smarter than you, and no matter how much you study a subject, you'll never have the brain capacity to store and process information like they do.

Same thing with Bruce Lee, you don't have the benefit of his genetics. You can't train to have fast twitch muscle fibers for example you're born with them. No matter how much you trained to be able to dunk (which you might accomplish) it would take you much longer and way more effort than somebody who can naturally jump higher. They will always be able to jump higher than you. Think about Junior high track meet. Kids at that age aren't training for events, and yet, there are clearly superior athletes compared to others. With no training or experience, some people are naturally more athletically gifted than others. It's just the way the cookie crumbles.

You seem to be under the impression than anybody can be a professional athlete or a doctor, and that couldn't be further from the truth

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Did Ultron ever have a vibranium body? I thought that was Vision. In any case, his latest body survived prolonged blasts from Thor, IM and Vision without getting incinerated. I don't know if Faora has enough power output to take out Ultron.

Then again, I also don't know if Ultron has enough power output to take out Faora... though Superman did get hurt by the kryptonian ship's laser fire.


Saying she can't hurt him would be like saying she can't kill wolverine.

She could rip his spine out. Just like she could dismember Ultron.

Think about it, not all of him is vibraniam. He still has circuits, a power source and other thinks that can be crippled.


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Well, Ultron really isn't that impressive. They jobbed Thor to him for a few minutes to try and make him seem like a serious threat....but other than that he never accomplished anything physically.

Thor jobbed to Ultron and Hulk jobbed to Iron Man. Funny thing is Thor also had the best feat of anyone in that movie....so...I'm not that impressed by Ultron.

I'd give Thor (not jobbing for plot reasons) a huge advantage over Ultron as well as Faora


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This actually isn't a good argument like somebody commented. You're in fact, not the same as a doctor, or somebody in Mensa for example. They are inherently smarter than you, and no matter how much you study a subject, you'll never have the brain capacity to store and process information like they do.
This is flat out wrong. Someone who studies and dedicates their lives to a subject can definitely become one of the best in their field. Every doctor earned their profession through years of killer study and testing. If its all genetics, then that means that every person in that doctors family should also be a super accomplished genius, though this is rarely the case.

Same with martial arts. Learning technique is definitely doable. Sure, becoming Bruce Lee level is a different argument all together, but they can still become pretty adept at a style.

Not to mention neither of those are akin to flying. Zod picked it up easily enough. Thats likely closer to learning how to walk, which nearly every human has the capacity to do, meaning Faora has the capacity to learn to fly just fine.

And jesus, you have the most defeatist attitude I've seen in a while. Honestly, its depressing. You cant just explain away all failures to genetics.


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This is flat out wrong. Someone who studies and dedicates their lives to a subject can definitely become one of the best in their field. Every doctor earned their profession through years of killer study and testing. If its all genetics, then that means that every person in that doctors family should also be a super accomplished genius, though this is rarely the case.

Same with martial arts. Learning technique is definitely doable. Sure, becoming Bruce Lee level is a different argument all together, but they can still become pretty adept at a style.

Not to mention neither of those are akin to flying. Zod picked it up easily enough. Thats likely closer to learning how to walk, which nearly every human has the capacity to do, meaning Faora has the capacity to learn to fly just fine.

And jesus, you have the most defeatist attitude I've seen in a while. Honestly, its depressing. You cant just explain away all failures to genetics.


That isn't what you said though.. You said we're all born human and thus can all accomplish the same things. You said anybody can be a doctor or Bruce Lee, and THAT is flat out wrong. Not everybody can be a doctor or Bruce Lee. It has nothing to do with a defeatist attitude, it's simply a fact. In the end I know what you were trying to say, I just didn't agree with how you said it. NO harm.

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That isn't what you said though.. You said we're all born human and thus can all accomplish the same things. You said anybody can be a doctor or Bruce Lee, and THAT is flat out wrong. Not everybody can be a doctor or Bruce Lee. It has nothing to do with a defeatist attitude, it's simply a fact. In the end I know what you were trying to say, I just didn't agree with how you said it. NO harm.
You're fine, but you might want to check who you quoted bud, I never said any of those things

I did say NotAllThatEvil had a good argument though. He messed up the phrasing, but I don't believe that "anyone could be Bruce Lee" is the actual argument he was trying to make. He's trying to argue that people can become one of the best in a chosen subject through dedication, practice, and progress. He just messed up the fact that flying in MoS clearly doesn't take the same level of dedication or learning, which is what I refuted when I quoted him.


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