I doubt Selene could hurt her enough to KO. Angel traded blows with Colossus. Angel is atleast as strong as the uber Lycan, and Selene couldn't match it physically.
Strength isn't everything. And Selene herself was strong enough to knock vehicles over by the latest films, so she is hardly weak. Also, the Uber Lycan had insane regeneration, something Angel doesn't have. Given Selene's speed, Angel Dust would have an absolute nightmare landing proper hits on her, barring PIS/CIS.
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Same here.Angel has a strength advantage but lets not act like that was a great battle between two extraordinary fighters,the fact that Colossus was able to even tag Angel tells me Selene will make short work of this fight. Colossus was going easy on her and letti g her get a lot of hits in. Selene will go straight for the kill
You're saying Selene can beat Colossus too? What about Thing? He's slow and has huge strength advantage? This is a h2h fight. Angel doesn't need regeneration here. How can Selene hurt Angel with punches when Colossus needed many to put her down.
Where did I say she can beat Colossus or Thing? Unlike Angel's hits on Colossus, his hits on her actually seemed to be causing more effect than just knocking each other around. She had to cheap shot him in the crotch and then choke him to actually hurt him. Also to note, Negasonic's area attack KO'd her IIRC, but Colossus wasn't. And Thing's actual strength and durability feats are WAY above either Angel or Colossus.
What has Colossus done physically that puts him so far above Selene that you don't think her hits will have an effect on Angel? And what has Angel done to suggest she can land proper hits on someone as fast and agile as Selene?
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There was an obvious durability difference to me between Angel Dust and Colossus. She seemed to have similar strength and greater skill though, plus the fact that he seemed reluctant to really hurt her, to help counter it.
Take for example the following facts. Wade headbutted her while strapped inside that torture tank, didn't hurt himself, visibly caused her pain (and stole her match to boot). Wade tries to attack Colossus and breaks his own bones, while Colossus remains completely and utterly unfazed. So if Wade can hurt her while remaining unharmed himself, yet only hurts himself in his attempts to attack Colossus, I would say the one likely has a notable durability edge on the other.
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This, and no, Selene would lose. Huge durability difference between Colossus and either of these two. Every time he hit her it obviously hurt. What Im trying to say is, Colossus is the slowest on screen brick we have ever seen. Any average human could have dodged those blows.
Screw this..What I'm actually trying to get at is Selene sticks her arm wrist deep through Angels eye before Angel even gets halfway through throwing her first punch.
There is a big difference between killers and fighters. Selene isnt here to do martial arts and have a boxing match with someone who is obviously to durable for that shit.
Selene would take Angel, Ajax,and Deadpool in h2j at same time and I feel pretty comfortable saying that with feats from all movies on table.
Angel Dust still has to have superhuman durability to take punches from Colossus. Wade broke his bones hitting Colossus, she didn't. She has to have elevated durability to match the strength she has. I doubt Selene could punch a hole in her since Colossus didn't knock her head off or break her in half.
Well, I don't believe that Selene could necessarily just punch a hole in her. But if Wade was physically strong/tough enough to be able to have an effect, Selene definitely could. And like I said, Angel Dust doesn't have the feats to suggest she can properly keep up with Selene.
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Lol. She loses every time. Yeah, she has good durability but it was far below Colossus and she is super slow compared to Selene. And Angel was using steel rope, she wasnt even hurting Colossus, just moving him around. She could have knocked Thor or Hulk that same way and it would mean nothing.
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Facts:
Speed-Selene>>>>>>>>Angel= Selene would literally have to let Angel hit her. Amgel Dust has ZERO chance of landing one single finger on Selene if she doesent want to.
Skill- Selene>>>>Angel Dust= Angel looks like she has had some kind of basic army bootcamp training, not that impressive, not even going to go into Slenes hundreds of years of killing things it would be lol worthy.
Strength-Angel>>>Selene= Angel is stronger for sure, possibly 2-3 times overall stronger than Selene and that is being generous. She knocked Colossus a good like 70 feet which I dont see Selene replicating.
Durability-Wash= hardline durability vs. Healing factor =
You know using a statement like that on its own, without further elaboration, doesn't provide the best argument right? I get what you are trying to say, but someone could very easily find issue with the statement as it is. Because, in a similar vein, someone could then say Gríma Wormtongue can kill Gandalf because he killed Saruman on the extended cut of LotR.
Fact is Colossus didn't really want to fight her, and was handling her fairly well in spite of that, right up until her one boob popped out, she cheapshotted him in the nuts, and tried to choke him out. I don't think flashing Selene some titties is going to have the same effect here.
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Bro Angel dust was clearly on another strength level up there with the likes of Ronin and Drax if not stronger. She straight up knocked colossus like 50-60 feet in the air backwards.
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Never argued against her strength. I just pointed out that if people well below Selene can in fact cause her pain/potential injury (like Wade), Selene should also be able to inflict damage. And considering that Selene can move fast enough to completely blitz multiple people before they can react when she wants to, I have a hard time seeing Angel Dust, who doesn't have any feats fighting super fast opponents, landing proper hits on her. And even if Angel lands hits, Selene can take shotgun blasts, giant spikes etc., just heal, and keep going like nothing. And Selene herself had enough blunt force injury resistance that she could take leaps off very high buildings and land completely unharmed.
I just don't feel Angel is durable enough that she could just tank anything Selene throws at her, and I don't feel like she could land enough full strength hits, in quick enough succession (because otherwise Selene would just recover), in return to drop Selene.
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