Yeah. The intro has him transferring into someone with Wolverine type healing and it states that over time every time he has transferred into a new host he keeps all his old powers and takes theirs as well.
Jaden, TI... I have seen the movie. And unless you can prove definitively that what Apoc did to Xavier was not TP, then please, don't go spreading false information.
Except the burden of proof is on you to prove definitively that what Apoc did to Xavier was TP. Take your own advice and stop spreading false information. Apoc is not telepathic.
Except that I have posted the proof numerous times. There is no reason to assume what Apoc did was not TP. At all. Give me a counter Arachnid, because Apoc clearly demonstrated it twice onscreen, and you can't say it's not.
I have seen the movie and more times then you. Unless you can prove definitely that what Apoc did to Xavier is TP please don't go around spreading false information. You are literally the only person in the thread who is saying different.
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Are you referring to Apoc beating Xavier in the mind battle? That was Xavier entering Apoc's mind. Apoc states that he needed Xavier's powers to connect to the rest of the world. During the attempt to transfer into Xavier it left a link that allowed Xavier to attack Apoc telepathically.
Ok, I am going to break this down into a series of Q&As, because you have changed your mind numerous times regarding this TI.
Question: what do you think Apoc did?
Answer: I mixture of technopathy and something else that is more obscure.
Ok, lets explore this. Technopathy, which Apoc demonstrated twice prior to mindhacking Charles, required touch both times The first in the pyramid at the start of the movie, and the second time on the TV. Ok, next question.
Question: If it's technopathy, how did he mindhack Charles via double proxy?
Answer: Derp.
He never even laid eyes on Cerebro, never mind touched the thing for technopathy to work, AND he had to mindhack Erik in order to get at Charles and Cerebro, then he had to hold the connection before Xavier, an actual Telepath could cut him off, which would be trivially easy if Apoc had no TP.
Here's the thing gentlemen, Apoc had TP. He'd have to have had it because without it, Xavier would have punked him 3 times in mental battles.
Xaviers been resisted by people with a resistance to telepaths like Magneto in comics multiple times, so it's not unheard of. Resisting/blocking telepaths was also shown to be one of the abilties he has, as he explained to Xavier in the movie. If he was a telepath, he would have been able to stop Magneto and the Xmen just by taking control. The fight would have been over.
Every instance people have claimed Apoc was a telepath was an instance of him being linked, in some way, to Xavier whether he was doing it directly or through his horsemen who he is already linked to. Why not anyone else? There's not one definitive instance of him using tp without a doubt like there is for Xavier or Jean multiple times. There was never one instance of him flat out just taking control of someone or mindphucking them into submission. The biggest part of this is the fact that he so desperately needed Xaviers powers. If he had his powers already, why would he need Xaviers? This is a huge plot point, and it makes no sense if he's already a telepath. For the thousandth time to everyone, he does not have TP.
So your retreating back into comic domain in a movie discussion? What does that have to do with the price of fish in Tokyo?
EXPLAIN The link then Arachnid? Because doing what he did THROUGH Erik is still a massive TP feat that you cannot handwave away.
I already explained this, but here we go again. Xavier's powers have a much broader RANGE than Apocs does. Apoc's powers are localised, focused, not nearly as far reaching as Charles powers. In a modern world, where you can subjugate the entire world's population with a thought, Charles's reach would be ideal. Apoc's range is no greater than Emma frosts was in First Class, but his TP STRENGTH is far greater.
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