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The first movie he was out of shape, generally speaking, as he hadn't trained seriously for the fight.
In the second, he trained extraordinarily hard, but as he admitted in the third, he didnt have the ‘eye of the tiger’. It still took Rocky almost killing himself in both their fights to draw/beat him by one second.
In the fourth of course, he was past his prime and ill prepared for the mauling he received.
Creed from either of his two fights w. Rocky would win this fight.
Rocky Creed would be surprised, but still take the match on sheer skill and experience.
Rocky II Creed wouldnt need to go eye of the tiger deep, as Drago wouldnt push him toanywhere near the point Rocky did.
This right here. The concept behind the Rocky films is the fight between Muhammed Ali and Chuck Wepner, with Ali being Creed and Wepner being Rocky. Creed in the Rocky-verse is Ali in ours; he's the best of all-time.
Creed was the best. He bested rocky once with the eye of the tiger and barely lost in their rematch. He also bested him in the gym. Creed in his prime is the best boxer of all time in the rocky verse.
You took gym seriously? Yes it was stated, that was just a filler. Rocky bested Creed physically in Rocky III training then destroyed Clubber (Clubber would be also be difficult for any Creed, because no one can take so much as Rocky can and it's not necessary Creed could always avoid Clubber and not getting hit) and then out of prime Creed bested prime Rocky. Yeah right, no matter what was said, that can't be taken seriously.
And didn't Rocky IV begin Rocky coming home after their fight with Creed in the gym and soon after the same Creed died extremely easily against Drago (but i am not sure with time here)?
We could also argue it was aimed that every fight Rocky had was against stronger opponent, that was 100% the original idea (Drago>Clubber>Creed from Rocky II>Creed from Rocky, don't mention Tommy, he was a joke and was obviously presented as a joke against those four powerhouses).
Purely as a boxer Creed was the best yes...but would never beat prime Rocky officially. Any version of Creed looses against prime Rocky and Drago.
And also Viktor and young Creed can't close compare to those four.
Last edited by Inedian on Dec 2nd, 2018 at 06:53 AM
yes, Rocky 4 started right after his and Apollos fight but then jumped ahead a few years as evidenced when Adrian says that he's now been retired for 5 years but in Rocky 3 Apollo had only been retired for 3 years
I took all their fights seriously. Does it hold more weight than the first two definitely not. The fact remains a peak motivated rocky had two cracks and won 1 out of 2 by a second.
Rocky had the eye in part 3 but again they fought at the end Creed won. Quit acting like training is the same thing as fighting him which he did at the end.
Creed was well past his prime and the Russian came out of nowhere. It is like arguing wizards Michael Jordan is the sane as Chicago bulls jordan. Gtfo with your nonsense. It was years later and he was well past his prime.
Creed beat him in part 1 and barely lost by a second in part 2. Drago is the only boxer to have never defeated Rocky. The guy was juiced up aka cheating as well. Creed was the best, rocky the runner up, with Lang as the bronze medalist.
Just stop with your Drago wank. Cheater got beat and his career went nowhere. Never beat rocky. Creed beat him twice.
Look idiot, you really are an idiot. Rocky who beat Creed in Rocky II was literally amaterish Rocky compared to Rocky from Rocky IV. Any Creed dies against Rocky from Rocky IV (that was the most dangerous and peak Rocky... his durabilty was far above even Rocky II, his experience was far above).
Creed used eye of the tiger as an excuse. Creed in Rocky II was trained to the core and focused and sharp to the core and amaterish Rocky beat him. Rocky and Drago destroys him (it seems motivation didn't help him against Drago and he was saying he feels the best and is quicker than ever... we should trust him). And yes, it was aimed that every opponent Rocky fought was more dangerous. Now leave idiot. Accept that Drago killed him and amaterish Rocky beat him and Rocky outclassed him phyisicaly in Rocky III. F*ucking idiot.
An experienced boxer, a champion, in his physical prime couldn't beat Rocky (who was an amateur) in the fight that mattered (and would also lose the first fight if the fight lasted one more minute).
And Duke knew who prime Creed was and was still saying to Rocky in Rocky IV that he trained his whole life for that fight how he will have to go through hell etc... implying that Drago was the most dangerous boxer they have ever seen.
Last edited by Inedian on Dec 2nd, 2018 at 03:33 PM
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