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Captain America vs Grizzlies

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Cap takes on four Grizzlies, and a Kodiak, and Polar Bear.


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Again this point with him not holding back, a full force hit should kill these things if not at least knock them out.

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He dies if he brawls it out.

And before y'all come in with the helicopter and motorcycle bullshit

Every single one of these animals is clearly in the superhuman range and once they surround him he will have nowhere to dodge those 5 inch claws and a single swipe will do multiple times the amount of damage and with as much or more force as a shotgun.

It took 2 to three outriders each to overwhelm Cap, Bucky,and Panther.

A grizzly would maul a single outrider to death, probably 2 or 3 as well.

A Kodiak or Polar Bear will either outright knock an outriders head off or break it's spine in a single hit not to mention eviscerating it.

Can Cap win this? Definitely possible, but the only way feasible is by using hit and run tactics. If he lets more than two bears within striking range at any one time.he is a deadman.

I know we get caught up in movie and comic book feats on this site but make no mistake about it, Lions, Tigers, and Bears are not only superhumanly fast and able to match his running speed, their natural size and strength is going to match his strength, surpass his durability, oh and they each have multiple, curved, 5 inch blades on them there murder mittens.

He might win but only if he finds a way to take em down one by one. And those bears will forever think humans aren't worth the fight after that.

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He dies if he brawls it out.

And before y'all come in with the helicopter and motorcycle bullshit

Every single one of these animals is clearly in the superhuman range and once they surround him he will have nowhere to dodge those 5 inch claws and a single swipe will do multiple times the amount of damage and with as much or more force as a shotgun.

It took 2 to three outriders each to overwhelm Cap, Bucky,and Panther.

A grizzly would maul a single outrider to death, probably 2 or 3 as well.

A Kodiak or Polar Bear will either outright knock an outriders head off or break it's spine in a single hit not to mention eviscerating it.

Can Cap win this? Definitely possible, but the only way feasible is by using hit and run tactics. If he lets more than two bears within striking range at any one time.he is a deadman.

I know we get caught up in movie and comic book feats on this site but make no mistake about it, Lions, Tigers, and Bears are not only superhumanly fast and able to match his running speed, their natural size and strength is going to match his strength, surpass his durability, oh and they each have multiple, curved, 5 inch blades on them there murder mittens.

He might win but only if he finds a way to take em down one by one. And those bears will forever think humans aren't worth the fight after that.
No, Cap would break each Grizzly's skull with a single punch each and could overpower all of them combined.

Captain American can punch through Ultron Sentires, which are made of Grade-V titanium, throw a motorcycle with enough force to destroy a jeep, and toss Ultron into a highway pillar and crater it.

Grizzlies are superhumanly strong and can run faster than any human being, yes. But that doesn't make them anywhere near as strong as Captain America.

No, Cap stomps this any way you look at it.


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Lol. You mean the same Ultron robots that black widow and Hawkeye ripped through? That normal arrows and bullets destroyed?

How about the same outriders that overwhelmed him in minutes with only two or three , the same outriders that were getting ktfo by regular wakandans by hitting them with vibranium sticks.

Ok, so maybe you are not aware of what animals like this are physically capable of and you are applying movie bad guy fighting styles to them. They are not going to attack him one on one and don****ing karate.

They are going to surround him and there is literally going to be nowhere for him to go when 12 massive paws start bearingdown on him with claws that will open him up like a sardine can.

Like I said, the only way he manages to win is off the bears attack as stupidly as th Ultron bots or movie goons.

These animals are just as fast as him, more durable thanks to multiple inches of fat, and if they had thumbs and were bipedal would be able to apply the same amount of strength.

The outriders whipped his ass with two or three, any one of these bears would killl an outrider one on one, the Kodiak and Polar bear would trash multiple outriders.

Cap is still just peak human, the Ultron bots is literally the worst example you could have used when regular humans defeated muktipl at a time with no weapons.

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Lol. You mean the same Ultron robots that black widow and Hawkeye ripped through? That normal arrows and bullets destroyed?


Neither Black Widow nor Hawkeye tore through them via brute force. Compare that to Steve, who did outright tear one's head off at one point. Also, no, those were not regular bullets and arrows. It's explicitly stated in that very same film that Stark makes all the Avengers gear. And we visibly see Sokovian forces and even a SHIELD agent unload on them with their weapons without any effect. So, Natasha was likely using some kind of armor piercing rounds.

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Cap is still just peak human, the Ultron bots is literally the worst example you could have used when regular humans defeated muktipl at a time with no weapons.


Please post a scene where regular humans solo'd multiple Ultron bots simultaneously while completely unarmed. And them taking on multiple bots, one at a time, in a combo of H2H and weapons don't count.


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No, Cap would break each Grizzly's skull with a single punch each and could overpower all of them combined.

Captain American can punch through Ultron Sentires, which are made of Grade-V titanium, throw a motorcycle with enough force to destroy a jeep, and toss Ultron into a highway pillar and crater it.

Grizzlies are superhumanly strong and can run faster than any human being, yes. But that doesn't make them anywhere near as strong as Captain America.

No, Cap stomps this any way you look at it.


Prove that the Ultron Sentries are made of grade-V titanium and that Cap punched through that material (show the clip).

Show Cap throwing a motorcycle destroying a jeep.

The Ultron pillar feat a non feat.


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Neither Black Widow nor Hawkeye tore through them via brute force. Compare that to Steve, who did outright tear one's head off at one point. Also, no, those were not regular bullets and arrows. It's explicitly stated in that very same film that Stark makes all the Avengers gear. And we visibly see Sokovian forces and even a SHIELD agent unload on them with their weapons without any effect. So, Natasha was likely using some kind of armor piercing rounds.

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Please post a scene where regular humans solo'd multiple Ultron bots simultaneously while completely unarmed. And them taking on multiple bots, one at a time, in a combo of H2H and weapons don't count.


It's called movie inconsistency. High vs low showings. The bots appeared to be very fragile when the avengers engaged them. This is not debatable.


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With no shield Cap would get killed.
People are arguing a fantasy Cap here.
Cap could greatly injure some of them before eventually going down.
Cap is not cut resistant or bite resistant. He will bleed out.


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Prove that the Ultron Sentries are made of grade-V titanium and that Cap punched through that material (show the clip).

Show Cap throwing a motorcycle destroying a jeep.

The Ultron pillar feat a non feat.
Alternatively, you could kill yourself.


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At the vault dweller, they were super fragile and this can't be debated, they were killed by things that should not have killed a solid metal object.

Steve has tremendous blunt force durability but that's it, he is not cut resistant, and none of you have yet to come up with an answer for what happens when he gets hit, he will be heavily damaged.

On top of that, on these threads like this people like to apply movie goon tactics to the opponents . Obviously some of you are lacking real world experience when it comes to fights and seem to think everyone is going to line up one by one and get knocked out. They won't

Each one of these animals can charge just as fast as Steve,Bucky, and Panther, and they weigh 5-8 times more, meaning they are just as strong, and much more vicious.

Once he is surrounded, he is a dead man, you are fanboying and not being realistic if you say anything else. The outriders already showed Steve can't handle more than one above human opponent at a time.

So unlike everyone else here, I have actually backed my stance up, that nobody here seems to have an actual answer for besides Steve wins.

So im giving the bears a 6/10 just because it's Steve freaking Rogers and yes he has been in worse situations but those were all movie scripted and the bad guys either acted like dumbasses or were vastly inferior to him. The bears are not and will absolutely rip him to shreds without giving him a single second to catch his breath.

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If an arrow can Pierce them it does not matter what the head is made of, it matters what kind of force is behind it, though I stand corrected in the black widow comment. Quicksilver destroyed them without weapons. They were still pretty weak despite a couple of good showings (the concrete one was the only good strength showing and that seems like an outlier)

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In other words, your argument regarding the Ultron bots focuses pretty much solely on low-ends. BTW, Quicksilver was also able to damage pre-vibranium Ultron Prime, who is a lot more durable than the drones. And the bots also have other feats, but I just couldn't bother finding and linking them all. And I'm not even commenting on the match result here.


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Imagine saying that a guy who can run hundreds of times faster than the speed of sound and punch you at that speed without shattering every bone in his body being able to destroy them is proof that they are weak, compared to a phucking grizzly bear.

More on this later.


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In other words, your argument regarding the Ultron bots focuses pretty much solely on low-ends. BTW, Quicksilver was also able to damage pre-vibranium Ultron Prime, who is a lot more durable than the drones. And the bots also have other feats, but I just couldn't bother finding and linking them all. And I'm not even commenting on the match result here.
No need to be humble, anyone who isn't delusional can tell that Cap would win this.


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It's also about the feeling. What did we feel when we seen those scenes? I most certainly felt those bots were scrap metal in some scenes.

Basically, if a character has highs and lows then it is faulty to use their highs when comparing what another character did against them.

Again, Cap can be bitten and slashed. There is no way he's stopping that from happening without a shield. We will most likely bleed out


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