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Thinkerer
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Illuminati vs Superman (DCEU)

A self created version of Marvel's Illuminati, using MCU characters. A representative for the Avengers, the mystical, the Atlanteans, the Inhumans, Wakanda, space affairs and the Eternals.

Iron Man (Bleeding Edge)
Dr. Strange
Namor
Black Bolt
Black Panther
Captain Marvel
Ikaris

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Superman

Who wins?

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If they fight as badly as the ones in Doc Strange’s movie, Superman.


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That was a different line-up though.

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That’s why I said “the ones in Doc Strange’s movie” and not “like they did in Doc Strange’s movie”.


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WTF are Iron Man and Black Panther gonna do to Superman?


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WTF are Iron Man and Black Panther gonna do to Superman?


Yeah, some of these characters are meaningless. Strange and Black Bolt should suffice. Just throwing that out there before somebody gives Superman the instant win via speedblitz.


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Black Bolt isn't taking out Superman.

Strange potentially could, but he's made of jello.


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WTF are Iron Man and Black Panther gonna do to Superman?


Every fight needs bait. Besides,
Vibranium might still cut Supes.
In a group, even weaker member
may play a vital role.

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Originally posted by Thinkerer

In a group, even weaker member
may play a vital role.

^^^While I actually agree w. you on this, that isn’t the kind of feedback you’re gonna get here.


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Black Bolt isn't taking out Superman.

Strange potentially could, but he's made of jello.


You don't think his voice could screw up his equilibrium for others to mount an offensive? I'm not saying he could take him out by himself, but he would be a valuable part in the confrontation.


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You don't think his voice could screw up his equilibrium for others to mount an offensive? I'm not saying he could take him out by himself, but he would be a valuable part in the confrontation.


I thought you meant BB's voice would destroy Superman. As far as messing SM up some, very possible.


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Dr. Strange along with Superman not starting the fight in Metroman mode would be the key.

Dr. Strange would need a little prep because Superman is way too fast for him.

I'm open to the team winning provided someone can give me a plausible scenario (All the others somehow distract SM (explain how) long enough for Dr. Strange to do...)


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He's not beating Captain marvel, Icarus, Namor, and Strange at the same time

A debate can be made the Captain marvel can stale mate him at least

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He's not beating Captain marvel, Icarus, Namor, and Strange at the same time

A debate can be made the Captain marvel can stale mate him at least


If he enters the fight in Metroman mode then he wipes them out without being touched.

Barring that, these characters (besides Strange maybe) can even harm SM significantly.

Superman would stomp the shit out of CM.
Far stronger, faster, more durable,etc

Namor IM and BP are fodder here


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He's not beating Captain marvel, Icarus, Namor, and Strange at the same time

A debate can be made the Captain marvel can stale mate him at least
Why not? He's so much faster than everyone else on the team that they're literally statues, and DCEU Superman uses his speed in combat more than almost any character that isn't a pure speedster.


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Iron Man (Bleeding Edge) - distraction for Clark.

Dr. Strange - can trap Supes in the mirror dimension, turn back time on him, pull some of the stuff he did against Thanos to temporarily incapacitate Supes, but is KO'ed if Superman gets a hold of him even briefly.

Namor - Could help (maybe) by teaming up on Supes, but Clark no-sold Steppenwolf's axe to his shoulder, so I doubt the vibranium spear or anything Namor can do would even phase Clark.

Black Bolt - would have to have Supes standing in front of him and shout at him, which could mess up Clark, but Clark could just speedblitz him.

Black Panther - distraction for Clark.

Captain Marvel - biggest question mark. She can restart a sun, fly through black holes, and is one of two characters in Endgame, the other being Scarlet Witch, that had Thanos dead to rights by themselves. On other hand, Clark would've outright destroyed the Kree guard in CM1 and Dar-Benn from the Marvels with utter ease and would've beaten Thanos sooner or later. Overall superior feats for CM vs. massively better combat speed and great physicals in his own right for Clark.

Ikaris - diet Superman helps out a ton, as he went up against a speedster with legit combat fighting techniques in Makkari. How do the deviants match up against other MCU heroes though? They only fought the Eternals, and gave them, including Ikaris, all they wanted and more, killing Ajak and nearly killing Thena and Ikaris.

If Strange can launch an attack at Supes to hold him still long enough for CM and Ikaris to go to work, I give it to team MCU, but very few hero movie characters have the combination of powerset and combat capability that DCEU Clark has, especially taking into account that Supergirl, Keaton Batman, and two Flashes couldn't beat Zod and co. with near-infinite tries, whereas Clark took them down in one go.

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Superman decimates this team.

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He's not beating Captain marvel, Icarus, Namor, and Strange at the same time

A debate can be made the Captain marvel can stale mate him at least
What the heck? None of these folks can even see Superman move. All of them are as slow as heck. And Superman is also much stronger than them. It's a non fight.
Without time stone Strange has no shot. Even with time stone he has no time.

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What the heck? None of these folks can even see Superman move. All of them are as slow as heck. And Superman is also much stronger than them. It's a non fight.
Without time stone Strange has no shot. Even with time stone he has no time.


Not debating Superman is faster than everybody here, but Ikarus did snag Makkari by the throat. I just don't think it's an instant win for Supes.


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Not debating Superman is faster than everybody here … I just don't think it's an instant win for Supes.

^^^Because it isn’t.
Saying so is lazy slash wrong. big grin


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