Speed equalized to make it fair for Z.
Fight takes place in the Hyperbolic Time chamber, who wins?
Z's greatest feat is blowing of like 1/2 the moon with ease, a master roshi level feat.
Can Vegeto go SSJ2? Coffee Ball? If anything, if he hits Z with the rainbow shatter orb, which destroyed Janemba(a high end reality warper and powerhouse) easily, Z's finished. He doesn't even have material conversion.
He is from Tenchi Muyo. he can destroy half a moon on a whim (a master roshi level feat). he has Light Hawk Wings which can be evaded by a 99% Lightspeed Vegeto.
Z didn't destroy the moon. He Removed the Matter in it from existence.
Furthermore, DBZ characters are not even 1% of lightspeed. Their best feats put them at around mach 1000. Z is at least hundreds of times lightspeed, and even with just 2 LHWs he can block any attack up to a universe buster.
He destroyed an entire fleet of GP ships effortlessly, and he cut Ryo-Ohki in half effortlessly when he had just 2 LHWs. Fuku, who is weaker than Ryo-Ohki, was stated by scientists to have as much energy as a small universe. Z can also time travel, manipulate matter, use telekinesis, travel between universes and dimensions, regenerate, turn his body into light, warp space, restore matter after destroying it, etc.
Read the OP speed is equalized. DBZ has enough fire power to wipe Z out. GG Z
Gotenks can rip holes in dimensions with a scream
Kid Buu and Goku have IT IT>Speed
Any one in DB can time travel thanks 2 bulma
Buu can manipulate matter
Almost all the Z fighters can use TK.
GG Z
They would need universe busting just to touch him with 2 LHWs.
Galaxy Police ships are low tier and use extra dimensions in their freaking washing machines
IT is just teleportation. Z can do that too. But unlike IT, he doesn't have to lock on to a ki signal, and he can teleport other people without touching them.
Only in the alternate timeline where the time machine exists. I don't see Vegeto being given the time machine for this match, and even he did, Z would just destroy it effortlessly. Not to mention it can only go to alternate timelines and not affect the same timeline like Z can.
Z's time travel is an innate ability. Saying that using a time machine makes someone equal to him is like saying like some random guy with a jetpack is equal to Superman.
Too bad he's not even in this match. And he can't do it on nearly the scale that Z can either.
Actually most of the scenes of them using it were anime filler (Piccolo lifting pyramids, Goku lifting a water glass). Not to mention that even filler TK feats can't compare to Z destroying a spaceship with it from millions of kilometers away or carving his name in giant glowing letters on the earth.
ROFLMAO
Not really. Vegeto has no way to hurt him. All of his attacks would be nothing to the LHWs, and Z could simply slice him once and erase him from existence, or warp space around him to nothing, or go back in time and kill Goku and Vegeta as babies, or rip him up from the inside out with TK. Z has a million ways to kill him.
What does this have to do with the fight? Strawman
Did you watch the new DB special written by Akira Toriyama? Goku teleported the whole Z-Club to his house, so does his house have ki?
GG Endless Mike
It only became an alternate timeline because he killed Freiza instead of letting Goku do the work, so his world became a branch of the original wheras before it was the original. Kinda like how the Marvel verse works. Are you going to say marvel time-travelers and time machines can only travel to alternate timelines?
GG Endless Mike
Z's time travel is an innate ability. Saying that using a time machine makes someone equal to him is like saying like some random guy with a jetpack is equal to Superman.
Only because he has a mind of an idiot. He can transmutate anything to his desire, and he loves candy. Z is more imaginative but it doesn't mean his is greater than Buu's any way all matter manipulation does change the way Vegeto looks, he is still as strong and retains consciousness.
Most but not all.
I accept your concession
A full powered Kamehameha will do the trick. Speed is equalized so if Z is lightspeed then so is Vegeto.
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