Frieza vs ALL of the Namkien race and all of the saiyan race (excluding Goku, Trunks, Gohun, Vegeta) that was on the bardock saga... the entire planet full of Saiyans.
They are aware Freiza is on the planet and everyone has gathered around to confront him (everyone is transported to planet Namek).
Frieza can not destroy the planet and every 30 minutes that past he is reverted down to a lesser form. He starts off at his most powerful form... 30 minutes pass he goes down to his next form.
Freeza would utterly wreck them. Even in a hand to hand contest he would be killing people without effort left and right evenin his base form.
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Maybe if he was wiped out on energy otherwise probably not.
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Vegeta was considered exceptionally strong even compared to the elite, at 18,000 in power level. In Oozaru form, he reaches 180,000 compared to Freeza's 580,000.
Nappa is considered a Saiyan elite at 4,000. Reaching 40,000 transformed. Aka as strong as Recoome, Burter, or Jeice.
Freeza even in base would be too fast, strong, durable, and powerful to be inconvenienced by the Saiyans even in Oozaru form, especially considering taking them out of it is simple.
I doubt he can kill them all in the time, so, mainly this will be his base form... as much as i hate using power levels to determine a fight, that seems like the best bet for this kind of analysis.
Freeza's base form = 530,000.
10,000 was EXTREMELY HIGH for Saiyan warriors during Bardock's time; Bardock achieving 10,000 meant that he was almost at the level of King Vegeta and his elites. So, the highest Saiyan will just be a little over 10,000.
Nail was the strongest Namekian by far and had 42,000... the other Namekian warriors are not even close to him in power, they were killed by Dodoria so are probably below 22,000 significantly... 10,000 seems like a good estimate for them as well. Non-warrior Namekians really have no fighting power of significance. As we saw 42,000 is simply not enough to damage Frieza at all, so, no matter how many namekians there are, it means little.
Absolute best case scenario and the saiyans use power-ball, we have a handful of 100,000ish Oozaru vs 530,000 Frieza... I guess they could potentially win, but, i wouldn't bet on it.
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Wow, I would have given Frieza the win in his base form. In his most powerful form, 30mins would be more than enough to collectively trounce the Saiyans/Namekians with a fair amount of ease. Imo.
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I don't think flying around the planet would be an issue. Especially since we have the ginyu force landing on one side of the planet Namek (which was twice the size of earth) and making it to Vegeta, Krillin, and Gohun in no time at all.
Vegeta threw the Dragonball some miles away, Burta jumped up and flew to get the dragonball but he did it at a pace so fast that the world stood still. I don't know how fast you have to be for the world to completely stop around you but what I do know is that Burta speed pails in comparison to the Goku he fought. Goku himself admitted this along with Jeice. Then if you add on the fact that final form Frieza was significally much faster than Goku who is faster than Jeice... flying around a planet killing of saiyans at super speed should be childs play IMO.
He does have the fire power to kill them BUT the transformations could be a problem for him if it makes each saiyan 10 times stronger.
I wonder if all of them shot a combined blast at frieza, would it stop him? Remember, Goku had a PL of 10 or 15 thousand and during his fight with Vegeta, he had enough power to shed a planet (Vegeta did also). I wonder if a couple of combine blast in that range could drop frieza if they were to successfully get the attack to hit?
Ok, there are a few things that COULD be a POTENTIAL win for the superhumans. They would have to have this all planned out, but one thing they could do is just have the nameks healing all the sayans who get happen to not die, giving them a boost in power, though this likely wouldn't work enough to actually beat him. Another thing they could do, and I think this is their best chance, all the sayans go Ozaru and keep frieza busy/hide the nameks (cuz they are so huge ) then ALL the nameks fuse together into one person I'm not sure how many nameks it would take, or how many there actually are, but this seems like their best chance.
Good plan, but I still don't think it'd work. Even IF the Saiyans had enough time to fully transform into Oozarus (remember, it takes a while), all Frieza would have to do is destroy the synthetic energy-moon(s) they would have created in order to transform, and *poof* they're back to normal. Additionally, even if the strongest Oozaru had a power level of 200,000 (which is being extremely giving) final form Frieza could still -literally- blink them out of existence.
As for the Namekians all fusing together: is that even possible? I mean, was it ever stated that they can fuse with one another indefinitely? If not, then we really can't assume they can merge any more times then Piccolo did (as he preformed the Namekian-fusion technique the most.) If they CAN all fuse together, I still don't think they'd be strong enough to beat final form Frieza. Aside from Piccolo, Nail was far and away the strongest Namekian warrior, and his PL was what? 42,000? Weaksauce compared to Frieza in any form.
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Yeah, but Kami's PL was only about 300, and he multiplied piccolo's power many times over. Nail was 42,000 but it sure looked like Piccolo boosted more than just that.
But Piccolo/Kami's increase is in large part due to them being originally a much, much stronger warrior who was split, it was becoming whole more than adding their powers that mattered.
With Nail, it might've more than additive... but both were very strong to begin with, so not by much.
I think the Kami thing had more to do with he and Piccolo once being part of the same whole, then it did with power levels.
And in this scenario, Nail wouldn't be fusing with beings anywhere near Piccolo-level... He'd be fusing with the 'standard' Namekian warriors Vegeta steamrolled through when he first got to Namek (who only had PL's of like 3,000.) That said, it's just hard to imagine them combining into a Namekian amalgam with a PL > 12,000,000, but w/e. /shrug
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IIRC Guru confirmed that in Piccolo/Kami's original, fused form, he would be much more powerful than Freeza, although that is arguably a fallible statement.
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) then ALL the nameks fuse together into one person 
I'm not sure how many nameks it would take, or how many there actually are, but this seems like their best chance.
