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i have this as Roshi from DB 'cause i assume he was better in his youth, but i suppose he's more powerful in DBZ?... whichever the case, make it Roshi at his best.
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as i said, Yama's too fast. in the time it would take to charge a blast powerful enough to destroy the moon, Roshi would find his head resting at his feet.
Also, on that subject, destroying the moon (a planet) is not even close to being the same thing as killing a person. planet busting feats in DB/Z are accomplished by shooting energy into the body's core which effectively detonates it. All it takes to overcome a kai blast is being stronger than said blast, that's why characters slapped 'em away all the time. planets, as you know, are defenseless.
I could be wrong, but i think Cell is the only person dumb enough to actually be destroyed by a kai blast.
Yama tanked hundreds of rapid class 100 punches so i doubt any random kai blast is gonna hurt him. Yama also contained a blast that would have completely disintegrated an entire town. Not one Kai blast EVER fired in the history of DB/Z could disintegrate a city.
Roshi is not faster than the Captain Commander. People like Yuroichi and Byakuya, who are known far and wide as Flash Step Masters, faster than most people, can't hold a candle to him.
And these are speeds fast enough to go from one end of a city to the other in an instant.
Roshi can't even fly, and the most speed we've ever seen from his is the after image I believe.
Not sure about mach 5, but some previous calcs put Ichi bankai level speed at 3-5. Though think it was from Byakuya's 'twice as fast when I use my hands' comment. And as the best speed before that fight had Shikai Ichi barely at supersonic, his Bankai form during the fight would be at most touching hypersonic.
The 14 comes from Tao throwing a pillar at Mach 14 then jumping even faster than that to land on it. Some guy made the calc, (will find if needed) though Tao himself estimates beforehand that he'd throw it at Mach 7, still making him at the 14 mark for jumping faster than it.
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@ Nem.
1. Sure. And Yama's just gonna stand there while he charges. I love it when people treat a fight like it's one sided as if the fighter they aren't backing doesn't know a fight is taking place. You can't say one fighter will blitz and have the other stand there like a mouth breather. Roshi would have no answer for shunpo... save your bs calculations and show me Roshi fighting someone who can 'port miles at a time with very little effort.
2. Bullshit. That is an absurd thing to claim. The blast he fired clearly did not VAPORIZE the moon. The blast BLEW UP the moon which is completely different and shows that energy was shot through the body which caused it to explode. If it what you claimed had actually happened, there wouldn't have been chunks of moon flying, instead the entire body would have been turned into dust. stop making stuff up.
Also, dunno how many times i need to say it, but Yama isn't just gonna stand still while someone fires a blast in his direction.
3. That's not what i said and until you acknowledge the difference between blowing something up and completely vaporizing it, there's no need for me to continue the discussion.
He doesn't need to use his most powerful blast to kill Yamamoto.
No answer for Shunpo? Why? Because you say so? Can you show me a time frame in the manga panels for how long it took them to run kilometers?
Also, lolno, calcs are valid. Without them, we would have stupid people just arguing interpretations of feats, without quantifying them.
Yamamoto is much slower than Monster Aizen, who is four machs behind Tao.
You know I frankly don't care. Either one is astronomically more powerful than Bleach's best feat, if I forgot exactly how the moon was destroyed, it doesn't matter.
You can say it however many times you like. It doesn't make you right.
Acknowledge that vaporising a town is not actually as good a feat as "blowing up" the moon.
Oh Marwash, you and your Bleach wank. Never change.
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Feb 1st, 2012 06:19 AM
I love it when people treat a fight like it's one sided as if the fighter they aren't backing doesn't know a fight is taking place. You can't say one fighter will blitz and have the other stand there like a mouth breather. Roshi would have no answer for shunpo... save your bs calculations and show me Roshi fighting someone who can 'port miles at a time with very little effort.
