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Do you think some people have earned the right to die for their crimes?
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Krosus
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Do you think some people have earned the right to die for their crimes?

A friend of mine same age as me 26 a few months back was beaten unconcious at his home, tied up and had to watch 3 guys and a girl abuse his fiance when she came home and interrupted their robbery. He knows who did it he even identified them to the police but the case was thrown out due to lack of evidence.

If I were him I'd have lost the plot and killed them given a chance i'm sure if it was a loved one it happened to.

So the question is. Having ruined 2 peoples lives scarred them for life mentally and physically how far would you be willing to go for your justice and what crimes deserve execution by the state?


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normally i'm against death penalty or vigilante justice and so on...but when it comes to abusing girls...you just don't do it.
That story's really sad.
So yeah..i guess i am partial to cracking some skulls open, like you.

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I think that every abuser should die.


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Who should decide who has EARNED the right to die or not?

The crime described is horrible. I doubt anyone would disagree. Killing the perpetrators doesn't make it all right again. It doesn't change what has happened. But by all means - castrate rapists and child-molestors.


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Paedophiles give up any right to life the moment they mess with a child, that I feel very stongly about that. In my eyes theres only 2 punishments either remove their genitalia entirely or execute them....


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no point in the death penalty there never was and there never will be


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right.
because noone can earn the right to be killed...eanr it in front of an execution comission.
But maybe he has earned it in front of the poor guy who had to watch that. pedofiles and rapers are worse than murderers

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yea dexx I agree
but there are far worse penalties than death


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If a criminal is a repetitive offendor I said just pull the plug on him/her. What's the point in trying to help an individual that continues to commit crimes? That individual isn't a productive member of society! So what is the point in putting in prison for?

Let the 3 strikes laws be enforce for smaller crimes. I really don't take pity in ppl that are repetitive criminals (even worse murderers). Those ppl twist the law, and they think they can get away with it! Just execute those child molestors!


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strong opinions but I disagree


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That crime is horrible, such as other crimes, but I' m against the death penalty.


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I dont belive in the Death Penlty its a more easy way for the criminal to get away with the crimes he does.
He should be locked away for a very long time where he can reflect on his crime


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if someone kills...and you put them on death row your being no better than them


but if they are abusing girls....well what i would do lol....is throw em in the cell with the toughest criminals the country has! then tell em all what they did


you havent done a thing

they get the hell beat outta them


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He should be locked away for a very long time where he can reflect on his crime


Yes that's not bad ash, but who is going to be paying for his life sentence? In the end who pays for her/his meals? For her/his prison clothes? The tax payers do.

In other words: who flips the bill in the end? The Taxpayers money do! So everytime the government needs to provide prison immates for things like food and clothes, it is the taxpayers that have to pay for those things.

I personally don't feel the need to pay the meal of a guy that has been found guilty (without reasonable doubt) of murder. Is much cheaper to execute an immate that is a repetitive murder.


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no death penalty, true...
but maybe a couple of niggas with some blow torches can do the job...medieval style wink, if you catch my drift.

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I had to study an article receantly about a couple of men, braking into a house, beating up and tieing the father and the husband of a women in the house, then repeatedly raping the woman, while forcing the father and husband to watch. Thoe two men got life in prison....

They would probably been killed if they were in a country where capital punishment is enforced, and even though this is such a horrible crime, i dont believe the capital punishment shoul be enforced on anyone.

Life for a life is barbaric and very native. By killing a for example mureder, you are doing the exact thing you just argued is wrong...murdering anther person.
I believe the purpose of justice system is to serve justice, not justice through revenge.

Like Omega said, killing another person, will not make anyones life come back...


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quote:
Originally posted by Fire
strong opinions but I disagree


dont paid attention to him he doesn't have a clue of what he is talking about.

In my faith the death penalty is EVIL. Im ashamed that most Americans support it. But you see Christians groups ( I support them ) have pleaded to our senators to stop killing prisoners.

Prison women can be reform, And men that have commited a crime should be in prison for the rest of thier life. The United States serioulsy needs to STOP execution is EVIL

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that's true...i agree.....but nothing painful we've ever experienced comes even close to how those people felt...so maybe we're not totally entitled to assume what's right and wrong about these...

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The death penalty should not be aplied to a woman! did you see the movie MONSTER? That is one example of how wrong the death penalty is!


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quote:
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that's true...i agree.....but nothing painful we've ever experienced comes even close to how those people felt...so maybe we're not totally entitled to assume what's right and wrong about these...


I would argue the complete reverse. Their opinions are totally subjective. Justice must not be swayed by emotion and must always be independant and objective. Revenge must not come into it.


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