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Could the possible invasion of iran be america's downfall?

http://www.exile.ru/2005-January-27/war_nerd.html
have a read...what do u think?

' the Iraq war probably wouldn't be fatal. It's definitely hurt us, but it won't mean the downfall of America. Well, if we invade Iran, that bet is off. All bets are off. People don't realize how fast a Superpower can fall. It only takes one invasion too many.
Napoleon was unstoppable before he invaded Russia. So was Hitler. Now France and Germany are "Old Europe."
Iran is scarier than Iraq in every way you can name. First of all, it's physically way bigger, three times the size of Iraq. The population is 65 million, nearly three times as many as Iraq. The Iranians are young, too. Their birthrate is way down now, around 2 kids per woman, but back in the Khomeini years it was one of the highest in the world.
The Iranians, unlike the Iraqis, have always been willing to die for their country. In the Iran-Iraq War (1980-89) thousands of Iranians volunteered to charge across Iraqi minefields, knowing they were going to die. It scared the Hell out of the Iraqis. They threw everything at those crazy Persian suicide charges, even poison gas. And the Iranians just kept coming. If you want a more complete account of that war, read my column, "The War Nobody Watched" . The short version is simple: Iranians are brave, determined people. Don't mess with them.


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American cut through Iraq like a hot knife through butter. The problem American has hit is that they are trying to change a regime, not just go to war with another country.

Head to head...in a war. America would trounce Iran. The problem comes when America tries to re-establish a central government.

Not even 100 Americans died during the "War in Iraq"


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if bush wants to invade then he will
the american people wont pursuade him not to


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a good portion of those who voted for bush will support ANYTHING he does.
the power of brainwashing

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America has long since fallen yes

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a good portion of those who voted for bush will support ANYTHING he does.
the power of brainwashing


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The Iraqi Elections are a complete success. Iraq is now officially a democracy. The Iraqi people are free from tyranny and now peace is in sight in the next few years or so. The Iraq War was necessary.

I highly doubt that we will go to war with Iran. Syria and Sudan have already begun to cooperate with US forces. Iran will probably ascede to any and all negotiations the US offers.

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quote:
Originally posted by silver_tears
America has long since fallen yes

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Originally posted by PVS
the power of brainwashing


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roughly 51% of the nation voted for Bush.

Unless ALL of them are willing to do exactly what he says...then war wouldn't happen. Tricking the nation into believing that Iraq was a true threat to American peace worked the first time. I find it highly unlikely that American citizens would be dooped into jumping into another war.


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peace my ass...not yet..probably not eva


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roughly 51% of the nation voted for Bush.

Unless ALL of them are willing to do exactly what he says...then war wouldn't happen. Tricking the nation into believing that Iraq was a true threat to American peace worked the first time. I find it highly unlikely that American citizens would be dooped into jumping into another war.


they voted for him once
then voted for bush again!
why?


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Not to mention that other countries may rally around Iran as opposed to people just letting Iraq hang in the wind.

I believe if america attacks Iran, Iraq will soon fall into civil war. Bush I think is counting on help from the EU and a few otehr countries on this one, and he ain't gonna get it.


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You're comparing Napolean, a ruthless conquerer who pillaged countries for their riches, to the United States of America? Please!

America will not fall. It's just very sad that the European countries hate America so much.

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iran is a war america wont win even if they did invade


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quote:
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peace my ass...not yet..probably not eva


Uninformed of what's really happening. Unfortunately your press has a major bias against the US. The facts are distorted.

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America IS NOT going to war with Iran. Where did you hear this?

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uninformed? i read info on the net also ya know


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America IS NOT going to war with Iran. Where did you hear this?


Well, the link is to a Moscow-based alternative newspaper. That's about as legit as you get!


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quote:
Originally posted by Linkalicious
roughly 51% of the nation voted for Bush.

Unless ALL of them are willing to do exactly what he says...then war wouldn't happen. Tricking the nation into believing that Iraq was a true threat to American peace worked the first time. I find it highly unlikely that American citizens would be dooped into jumping into another war.


We're not going to war with Iran. Where is this coming from? It's utterly ridiculous. Iran is already in arms negotiation with the US. They folded pretty quick.

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quote:
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they voted for him once
then voted for bush again!
why?


voting for Bush over poor candidates like Al Gore and John Kerry is significantly different than persuading the majority of the American people that Iran poses a big enough threat to American peace and safety that they must be stopped.

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