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Help me, please. WWII Thesis: D-Day Changed the War
Alright, so I'm writing a thesis for school, and I'd appreciate any help with information or resources for it. My thesis, roughly, is: D-day changed the war and gave the Allied Forces a chance to win the war. Again, critisism and information is all welcome. The paper is due early May, and the outline is due tomorrow. I need to find events, places, names of people that helped to plan D-day, scenerios, anything that relates to the topic of D-day, preperation, executing, and winning the war.
You know, if you really want to be noticed, go
with "D-Day was an over-rated piece-of-s***
event, as the Russians were already winning
the war by themselves".
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OK so its not the schematics of D-day but the effects?
Well for one its was how the US got into the war,
Its was,and still is the largest amphibious assault ever,
and it opened a second front so the Germans were stretched more and both sides could advance easier.
Got TONs of troops on the ground, goes along with the second front.
Thats the biggest part, Look up the conferences and such that show how badly Stalin wanted a second front and how long FDR delayed it so it woul be successful
But that doesn't change the fact that it was the Russians that
were doing most fo the fighting and winning in the European
war. In fact, around the same time that D-Day was happening,
the Russians launched a massive offensive that annihilated
the German Army Group C (the largets and most powerful of
any German army group of the war).
I have seen and read a few American historians who themselves
admited that even without D-Day the Russians would've eventually
won the war (though after more bloodshed), as the German army
was already on its last leg by then.
And yes Stalin wanted a second front, but because the fighting was costing alot of men and equipment, not because he
couldn't win by himself, since he was asking for a second front
for many months before as well, but that didn't stop the Russians
from advancing more and more against the Germans.
Doesn't anybody know yet that Russias and Americas are some crazy mofos. Just take a look at the Russian police, or maybe the American populace in general. Any country that thinks they can beat both America and Russia at the same time have been smokin from the hooka. Nuff said.
Maybe that wasn't the most brilliant analysis the world has ever seen but think about it.
Your wrong moviejunkie23, it was indeed a brilliant analysis!
Maybe "crazy" is not appropriate when descibing Americans, but
there is no question that challenging American industrial might
along with Russian ferocious tenacity is suicidal at best,
apocalyptic at worst.
From what I've read, Overlord (D-Day) wasn't so much of a decisive moment from a strtegic viewpoint in the frame of the war itself. Sure, it was a proof-of-concept to show that a whole new front could be established by an amphi beach landing, but The Russians had the Germans' balls nailed down all over the place. They were steaming towards Berlin before the first wave of troops ever left for the French Coastline.
Next up, The French Resistance played a pivotal role in the success of D-Day. Nearly irrelevant as it was, D-Day would likely not have been successful had it not been for the Resistance holding the German tank divisions back, away from the beaches. had those tanks showed up, D-Day wouldn't have been any kind of "finest hour" by any rational stretch of the imagination. it would have been a giant German sausage grinder.
I'm not trying to spew "hatred for the US" here, but one of my HS English teachers (Marine, Gunnery Sgt., trained at Quantico, VA) explained these things to us on one of those days where we had nothing to do.
The main reason the tanks didn't go in in time was not the French resistance, it was German reluctance (all the way up to Hitler) to send them in. The Resistance did a lot of communications disruption but they had not a chance in hell of halting those Panzer divisions if they had been sent in promptly. Allied Command spent all day trying to work out why those tanks weren't coming. However, we'll never know what difference they would have made- it is extraordinarily speculative to say that D-Day would have been lost. If all of D-Day had been like Omaha, then fine, but it wasn't and once we had the beacheads- faster than the Panzers ever could have come in the best of circumstances- then no repulsion was certain.
D-Day changed the world rather more than the war. Without D-Day the post war climate would have had for certain a Germany totally owned by the Russians, and it can be speculated France would have been taken by them as well, the consequences of which one could write entire volumes about. Then there is the question of Russia and Japan...
In short, the modern world would have been totally different had D-Day failed.
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kharma! i'm actually doing a research paper on the dumbing down of the world's population, and i was wondering if you could elaborate on that...in 5 pages or more preferably
(Article not on French Resistance, but mentions it.)
"General de Gaulle's political need to efface the shame of defeat, occupation, and collaboration met the romanticizing tendencies of Anglo-American war correspondents, and a legend was born. But Keegan's assertion is stark: for most of the war, the 30-50 German occupation divisions took no part in anti-resistance activities whatsoever; stationed near the coast, to repel invasion, they where not so situated in any case. He then drops this astounding tidbit: the number of actual anti-resistance security forces in France (the Feldsicherheitsdienst) probably did not exceed 6500 at any stage of the war. That in a country of over 40 million!"
I actually have a 25 pages long article that goes solely about the planning of D-Day and at the end it gives a list of works one must read about D-Day, I'll try to find it