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If war was not an option of defense,what would be...

Tough question: If the U.S or other countries did not have the option of war as a defense mechanism to fight terrorism ,etc. what could we possibly do to defend ourselves from evil? How would countries try to protect themselves from people trying to wipe them out because of religion ?

Personally, I think war is the only option because if people die for thier country,we all realize how much our homeland means to us . But perhaps there will be a way in the future.... wink

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Ghee good question. I guess its everyone for themselves!


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the USA NOT going to war in every country would already be a good step to stop terrorism
them stopping with policing the world and butting into everything would be even better

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Tough question: If the U.S or other countries did not have the option of war as a defense mechanism to fight terrorism ,etc. what could we possibly do to defend ourselves from evil? How would countries try to protect themselves from people trying to wipe them out because of religion ?

Personally, I think war is the only option because if people die for thier country,we all realize how much our homeland means to us . But perhaps there will be a way in the future.... wink


Canada doesn't have that option... laughing We the United States would have to take care of their problem.


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That's not very funny

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Let’s see… War is a kind of terrorism as well, so without that option the overall terror in the world would drop…

“Personally, I think war is the only option because if people die for thier country,we all realize how much our homeland means to us.”
What a load of nationalistic crap!
But I’m sure the Bush-administration is real proud of you.

Without the option of war: How about trying o figure out, why some people and groups have got it into their heads that the US and the West are in league with the devil? It’s never as simple as politicians make it out to be.


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All disputes would be settled by having a dance-off.

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Actually... I recall seeing an old Frankie Goes to Hollywood music-video, where leaders of disputing countries to into the ring and fight it out...
Might make the world a more peaceful place.
yes


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That's not very funny


No it's not I'm sorry.

But it is true.

The sad thing about it was quite a few weeks ago, the Canadian government said the U.S. must get their approval to send a nuke over their air space if we had to counter a nuclear attack from another country.

But yet they expect us to defend them if someone were to attack them...How ironic roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Actually... I recall seeing an old Frankie Goes to Hollywood music-video, where leaders of disputing countries to into the ring and fight it out...
Might make the world a more peaceful place.
yes


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No no!!!!! everybody stop!!! this is how you would solve the problem. You would have armies from each nation fight each other in paintball matches!!!!! You could have the idiots from the UN be the referees!!! Anyone caught cheating would be removed immediately.

This way people can experience the horrors of war with very little pain!


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OMG it would be so much fun...people would forget what they were fighting about in the first place...cool idea.

Better than mine ''two leaders of countries in war in a death match - last leader standing wins the war'' idea.


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laughing out loud you could still do the leader thing with paintball; itd be great to have seen hitler, mussolini, and tojo, going against the big 3!


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Let’s see… War is a kind of terrorism as well, so without that option the overall terror in the world would drop…

“Personally, I think war is the only option because if people die for thier country,we all realize how much our homeland means to us.”
What a load of nationalistic crap!
But I’m sure the Bush-administration is real proud of you.

Without the option of war: How about trying o figure out, why some people and groups have got it into their heads that the US and the West are in league with the devil? It’s never as simple as politicians make it out to be.


Bin Laden said he didn't atatck the US because of our form of government or freedom, he stated another country that is a democracy that he wants to leave alon, but he hates america because......drum roll please......we support those dirty jews in Isreal.
Those hundreds of people that had lives and souls were slaughtered because Bin Laden carrying the torch of hatred twoards a group of people.
I for one don't think we should budge one inch in treating Jews any different on the basis some mad man who controls a terrorits organization.
And if you really get down to it if i were an islamic muslim and i was not happy with having some westerners coming into my country armed the first guy i would be looking for would be is Bin Laden. It was his bright idea to begin with to bat the hornets nest. Now look at the reprocusions.
I am not giving a free pass to the war in iraq and afganastan but what i am saying is any idiot knows if you make America bleed there is going to be hell to pay in spades. Two towers for two countries kinda pay back.
So the thought of dead iraq kids makes me sick to my stomach and thats all the more reason to be mad at the islamic terrorists themselves. You don't perform that big of an attack on one of the worlds super[powers and expect the countrys you are from not to get a brunt of serios attacks. Think about it.
I don't don't think Bush is concerened about Iraqi kids. I don't think Bush is even really concerened about any of the Iraqi people. I think after we were attacked though in their minds in the bush adminastration it was time to clean house and go onto the offensive. Maybe it would make the country safer if two islamic countries were converted to democracy maybe they were wondering?What does that mean to millions of muslims minding their own business?? It means burning houses and ampuataed limps and corpses is what it means.
Bin Laden started the domino affect that casued a massacre in Muslim countries.
You don't throw a rock at a man known for violence who owns a gun and then go hide in a crowd of your friends. All you solve is pissing him off and getting allot of your friends shot for your trouble.


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Ways to prevent terrorism without aggression?

Isolationism. Everyone minds his or her own business and not anyone else's.


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Isolationism leads to resentment. How can a country that is deficient in essential raw materials be able to survive without importing them?

'Ideological isolationism'...now there's an idea. I think that would work, but the nature of humanity decrees that it is an impossibility.


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the USA NOT going to war in every country would already be a good step to stop terrorism
them stopping with policing the world and butting into everything would be even better
agreed.


i don't understand why is the USA-gov acting like that whole world was their playground confused


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Moviejunkie23>” Those hundreds of people that had lives and souls were slaughtered because Bin Laden carrying the torch of hatred twoards a group of people.”

Hold on on the rhetoric, please! How many people have died in Iraq this far, in the Holy war of liberation? Hm?
“I for one don't think we should budge one inch in treating Jews any different on the basis some mad man who controls a terrorits organization.”
So, it’s back to the ”The Palestinians are all a bunch of terrorists, even though the Israelis have occupied their lands for decades now, and Israel has more UN-resolutions against it than you’d care to know?”.

” It was his bright idea to begin with to bat the hornets nest. Now look at the reprocusions.”
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Okay, so let’s see… Osama Bin Laden from Saudi Arabia. Yes, and his gang of terrorists, mostly from Saudi Arabia… So the Bush-administration goes to war against Saud…no, wait… against Afghanistan and… Iraq?!?!?
So if a Chilean terrorist did something, Bush would attack Greenland?

”Two towers for two countries kinda pay back.” Since when did the World Trade Center have the size of two countries and their populations?

”So the thought of dead iraq kids makes me sick to my stomach and thats all the more reason to be mad at the islamic terrorists themselves.”
The evil terrorists who came from… Iraq and no wait… Saudi Arabia!!! So, no. I’ll be mad at Bush for not knowing jack about geography.

”You don't throw a rock at a man known for violence who owns a gun and then go hide in a crowd of your friends. All you solve is pissing him off and getting allot of your friends shot for your trouble.”
So… The Bush-administration should just have a carte blanche when it comes to world politics?
Pf!


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the USA NOT going to war in every country would already be a good step to stop terrorism
them stopping with policing the world and butting into everything would be even better


I agree with you there yerssot. I think that the US needs to stop trying to save the world from everything.there will always be conflict no matter how much we try to stop it. And no matter how many terrorists we capture or kill,there always going to be another to take its place....a world without evil never is going to happen mad

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Moviejunkie23>” Those hundreds of people that had lives and souls were slaughtered because Bin Laden carrying the torch of hatred twoards a group of people.”

Hold on on the rhetoric, please! How many people have died in Iraq this far, in the Holy war of liberation? Hm?
“I for one don't think we should budge one inch in treating Jews any different on the basis some mad man who controls a terrorits organization.”
So, it’s back to the ”The Palestinians are all a bunch of terrorists, even though the Israelis have occupied their lands for decades now, and Israel has more UN-resolutions against it than you’d care to know?”.

” It was his bright idea to begin with to bat the hornets nest. Now look at the reprocusions.”
laughing
Okay, so let’s see… Osama Bin Laden from Saudi Arabia. Yes, and his gang of terrorists, mostly from Saudi Arabia… So the Bush-administration goes to war against Saud…no, wait… against Afghanistan and… Iraq?!?!?
So if a Chilean terrorist did something, Bush would attack Greenland?

”Two towers for two countries kinda pay back.” Since when did the World Trade Center have the size of two countries and their populations?

”So the thought of dead iraq kids makes me sick to my stomach and thats all the more reason to be mad at the islamic terrorists themselves.”
The evil terrorists who came from… Iraq and no wait… Saudi Arabia!!! So, no. I’ll be mad at Bush for not knowing jack about geography.

”You don't throw a rock at a man known for violence who owns a gun and then go hide in a crowd of your friends. All you solve is pissing him off and getting allot of your friends shot for your trouble.”
So… The Bush-administration should just have a carte blanche when it comes to world politics?
Pf!


LOL and you are telling moviejunkie to stop the rheteric???

A little more than 1500 people have died i believe. Stop whining! I value those lives and I would die for my country too but you know; those losses are NOTHING compared to most other wars. The ends justifies the means.
The Israelis rightfully own most of that land and Yasser-is-a-fat was a bloody terrorist!!! Now they finally got a decent leader in there for negotiations.
The UN is one of the most anit-semetic groups in the world.
If the UN isn't gonna do anything maybe we should start policing the world(not really, im just making a point). It is a corrupt organization! Look at the oil for food scandal! Kofi Annon gets off scott free!! Now we here about UN peace keepers raping those who they are supposed to protect. Do you really think they will be punished? Why do you think france and germany were so opposed to the war? They were getting rish off the oil in Iraq!
"Since when did the World Trade Center have the size of two countries and their populations? "
I don't think moviejunky meant it that way. Look at the reasons for us going into WW I or WW2. Pearl harbor anyone??? We beat the Japs down and the loss of life from Pearl was almost that of the two towers.
Like I said- the ends justifies the means-- Look at Japan after the occupation; one of the worlds industrial superpowers; look at south korea after they we're saved from communism. Their economy is great. Afganistan-- free elections anyone? And they had Taliban training camps there too, thats one reason for war with them. Did you know that? Iraq massacered thousands upon thousands of its own people; defied the US and UN. They did support terrorism despite what most people say.

About the Saudis; yes the royal family paints a very bad image of their government. Yes Osama is a Saudi but he was in Afganistan. That's why we went there.
Well srry bout me rambling. Let the flaming begin big grin


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