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'Oops, I was raped."

I was having a discussion with a friend earlier about the double standards in this country. The most alarming one is the famous - "I was drunk and had sex with someone, I'm sober now and I regret this, so I'm going to take him to court on charges of RAPE".

Does anyone else find this extremely disturbing? Imagine, you're out with your buds at a bar, and you meet a chick who's a little tippsy. You take her back to your place and have consentual sex. She wakes up in the morning and regrets that she was a **** and ****ed some guy who's name she didn't even know, and instead of taking responsibility for her actions, she can bring up criminal charges against the guy and get him arrested and prosecuted for rape when the encounter was completely consentual. Like she's too idiotic to be helt accountable for her actions.

The most alarming part of all of this is it actually works. Men ARE found guilty in cases like this. The courts allow this kind of crap to fly and as a result a man's life can be utterly put in ruins by these drunken whores who are too inept and worthless to take responsibility for their own actions.

What are your views on this?


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Yes I have heard of this sort of thing happening - In fact it happened to a friend of mine at University with an ex girlfriend, he slapped her and pleaded guilty to this - but was found not guilty of Rape the case was complicated - however the girl had all her friends in the house and some of them said they heard the two having sex and it sounded consentual. As did two boyfirends of these girls who were also in the house.

sad He slapped her earlier in the night and in front of people and it turns out she set him up because of this.


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it's not a double standard in my state. you can't give consent if you're impared. so if a person is drunk they can claim rape, if both people are drunk, then both are impaired and neither is lible for rape.


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Yes, but how often are women found guilty of shit like this, or more accurately, how often are guys stupid enough to bring charges against a woman who screwed them while they were drunk?


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2% of all rapes reported are false, malicious charges. Same as any other crime.
I know girls who would do it or have done it. But they are not "normal" people. They have severe bipolar disorders and don't take their medication. All rape accusations should be taken seriously, but if falsehoods are ever discovered, then the plaintiff should be involuntarily committed to an asylum for 3 years, and anyone who made false testimony should be prosicuted for contempt to the full extent of the law. Any police involved in criminal activity should be immediatly fired and thrown in the slammer for at least 10 years.


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A guy has to learn to keep his dick in his pants. No matter how slutty the woman might dress or how drunk she gets is no invitation for rape. If she is irresponsible with her behavior and a guy takes avantage then the dude is bound to face the consequences sooner or later. There are NO excuses for rape.


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Originally posted by WindDancer
A guy has to learn to keep his dick in his pants. No matter how slutty the woman might dress or how drunk she gets is no invitation for rape. If she is irresponsible with her behavior and a guy takes avantage then the dude is bound to face the consequences sooner or later. There are NO excuses for rape.


WD, I'm not talking about a guy who takes advantage of a girl and actually forces himself onto her. I'm talking about the fact that the two can engage in what is, at the time, consentual sex, and then the woman can sober up, close her legs and change her mind about it and sue the guy after the fact.


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the moral, don't **** drunk chicks and don't **** while drunk. It's the leading cause of yeast infection in both sexes anyway.


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Originally posted by WindDancer
A guy has to learn to keep his dick in his pants. No matter how slutty the woman might dress or how drunk she gets is no invitation for rape. If she is irresponsible with her behavior and a guy takes avantage then the dude is bound to face the consequences sooner or later. There are NO excuses for rape.


thats nothing to do with anything at all!

its pretty stupid getting arrested for having sex when the other person is drunk, its their own fault.


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crap, i forgot. by drunk i mean any form of intoxication.


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Yes, that's the way to avoid it. The thing is, should things like this even exist? Should the law system even recognize this as rape? I don't think so. If it's consetual at the time of intercourse should the woman be able to wake up and go "Ohhh, I don't like that guy after all, ew, I had sex with him. RAPE RAPE!!"


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Re: 'Oops, I was raped."

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Originally posted by BackFire
I was having a discussion with a friend earlier about the double standards in this country. The most alarming one is the famous - "I was drunk and had sex with someone, I'm sober now and I regret this, so I'm going to take him to court on charges of RAPE".

Does anyone else find this extremely disturbing? Imagine, you're out with your buds at a bar, and you meet a chick who's a little tippsy. You take her back to your place and have consentual sex. She wakes up in the morning and regrets that she was a **** and ****ed some guy who's name she didn't even know, and instead of taking responsibility for her actions, she can bring up criminal charges against the guy and get him arrested and prosecuted for rape when the encounter was completely consentual. Like she's too idiotic to be helt accountable for her actions.

The most alarming part of all of this is it actually works. Men ARE found guilty in cases like this. The courts allow this kind of crap to fly and as a result a man's life can be utterly put in ruins by these drunken whores who are too inept and worthless to take responsibility for their own actions.

What are your views on this?


i agree completely, its bullshit.
especially since most one night stands start out
in a bar or club, so now a woman can just have a beer
or two, and decide whether or not she wants to ruin some
poor shmuck's life because she cant take responsaility for
being a ****.

alcohol is the "wasnt my fault" drug.
you can have a couple of beers and shoot someone
point blank in the face, and with a good lawyer the charge
can be dropped down to involuntary manslaughter erm

alcohol+law=bullshit

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Re: Re: 'Oops, I was raped."

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Originally posted by PVS
i agree completely, its bullshit.
especially since most one night stands start out
in a bar or club, so now a woman can just have a beer
or two, and decide whether or not she wants to ruin some
poor shmuck's life because she cant take responsaility for
being a ****.

alcohol is the "wasnt my fault" drug.
you can have a couple of beers and shoot someone
point blank in the face, and with a good lawyer the charge
can be dropped down to involuntary manslaughter erm

alcohol+law=bullshit


I actually agree if we remove the expletives


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Originally posted by Darth Jello
the moral, don't **** drunk chicks and don't **** while drunk. It's the leading cause of yeast infection in both sexes anyway.



college campus's around the USA would whither and fall off the map in one day with that sort of thinking!

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that's why rape cases are some of the hardest to argue, especially if there is no sign of intoxication or physical trauma. I mean, if you make an accusation with no evidence, be it phsyical or psychological, whatsoever, no one is gonna take your case and few people are malicious and stupid enough to extort or get revenge on someone like that.


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Originally posted by BackFire
I was having a discussion with a friend earlier about the double standards in this country. The most alarming one is the famous - "I was drunk and had sex with someone, I'm sober now and I regret this, so I'm going to take him to court on charges of RAPE".

Does anyone else find this extremely disturbing? Imagine, you're out with your buds at a bar, and you meet a chick who's a little tippsy. You take her back to your place and have consentual sex. She wakes up in the morning and regrets that she was a **** and ****ed some guy who's name she didn't even know, and instead of taking responsibility for her actions, she can bring up criminal charges against the guy and get him arrested and prosecuted for rape when the encounter was completely consentual. Like she's too idiotic to be helt accountable for her actions.

The most alarming part of all of this is it actually works. Men ARE found guilty in cases like this. The courts allow this kind of crap to fly and as a result a man's life can be utterly put in ruins by these drunken whores who are too inept and worthless to take responsibility for their own actions.

What are your views on this?

It's her own fault she got drunk. The influences of alchohol are quite well-know; she should've taken that into account before she got drunk. Blame lies with her.


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Originally posted by BackFire
WD, I'm not talking about a guy who takes advantage of a girl and actually forces himself onto her. I'm talking about the fact that the two can engage in what is, at the time, consentual sex, and then the woman can sober up, close her legs and change her mind about it and sue the guy after the fact.


That is also a fact that a woman should be careful not to drink herself stupid. However, my point is that it is the guy carrying the loaded gun with the sperm bullets. It is a guy who should be man enough and smart enough to say. "Gee, maybe I should be careful....It could come back and bite on the ass".

My main point is this...a man can avoid the whole thing by just being careful with his booze drinking. If a hooker gets a guy drunk in a bar and takes the guy to bed and the next day claims she was raped. Then whose fault is it? It has to be the guy for being an idiot and a irresponsible drinker. He should have limits to his drinking. And like Darth Jello said "the moral, don't **** drunk chicks and don't **** while drunk."


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It's the hookers fault by all fasions of reason. If she's the one getting the other person drunk, and then claiming HE raped HER then her testimony has no validity, even according to our screwed up laws. She's the one committing wrong.

If you're purposely getting someone overly drunk for the sake of trying to foce sex upon them, that's a whole different story.

I'm refferring to cases where both meet up in a bar, they go home, have consetual sex and then one changes their mind after the fact and brings about rape charges. I think that's utter bullshit and should not happen.


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This is total outrageous bullsh!t! mad




When did Backfire ever go to a bar and pull? stick out tongue


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And all jokes aside thats why friends don't pick up the Ho's without back upsmile Its few and far between women go out alone to the bar without some needs to be satsfied anyway lol.......

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